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Missouri approves tracking cell phones for real-time traffic data
Kansas City Star via AP via kansascity.com ^ | 12/2/05 | GARANCE BURKE

Posted on 12/25/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by elkfersupper

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To: GeronL

>>>Gee, just put some camera's out there on the overpasses, no need to track people<<<

No one is being tracked - just counted...


61 posted on 12/26/2005 12:04:20 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I still don't like it. Of course I don't like 99.9999% of ehat government does. I am beginning to believe that government is not a necessary evil, just evil...


62 posted on 12/26/2005 12:05:52 AM PST by GeronL (1678 computer infections and still Freeping!!! [Update, less than 300 remain])
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To: Keith in Iowa

Okay, good point. So the government is paying a private company to spy on drivers. Thanks for explaining.


63 posted on 12/26/2005 12:06:36 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

No one is being "spied on" in the sense you are thinking.

Is everyone out to get you or what??


64 posted on 12/26/2005 12:08:54 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: GeronL

The total paranoia on this thread is rather amusing.

People, on a daily basis, through their every day life, do far more to provide the kind of information that they are afraid that this technology could provide, but does not.


65 posted on 12/26/2005 12:12:38 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
No one is being "spied on" in the sense you are thinking.

Oh, so you think you know my thoughts? Hmmm...should I get out the tinfoil?

Is everyone out to get you or what??

Nah... but I think I've bought my last American car, now that they have the nice little black boxes that would never, ever be used to prosecute people for alleged violations....well, until they started using them for that, despite their precision and accuracy problems. Or like the gun registrations that could never, ever in paranoid nightmares be used for confiscating guns...until they were. Et cetera.

Nope...luckily not everyone is out to get me...but I do pay attention and I know history.

66 posted on 12/26/2005 12:12:41 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

>>>Hmmm...should I get out the tinfoil?

Yes.

You provide more data that can be mined to track you through your daily existence than this system could ever dream of collecting.


67 posted on 12/26/2005 12:15:49 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
The government should not be in the business of paying private companies to track, individually or in aggregate, the citizenry. Private solutions are in place that do not collect indivually identifiable data (such as traffic.com)

Do you actually believe that it's a conservative point-of-view to support the government sponsoring competition against private enterprises, especially to collect tracking data via a private contractor?

68 posted on 12/26/2005 12:20:12 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
People, on a daily basis, through their every day life, do far more to provide the kind of information that they are afraid that this technology could provide

But they do it voluntarily, thats the difference

69 posted on 12/26/2005 12:20:43 AM PST by GeronL (1678 computer infections and still Freeping!!! [Update, less than 300 remain])
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To: Keith in Iowa

I choose what data I expose on here (does voluntary vs involuntary mean anything to you?). Yes, they are several, but this would be taxpayers funding an additional datum that I don't want collected. Yes, they have the ability and right to track those emissions, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it or want to pay taxes for it!


70 posted on 12/26/2005 12:22:55 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
>>Hmmm...should I get out the tinfoil?

>Yes.

Nah, I don't think you need foil...you're not a nutcase...just a socialist. ;-)

71 posted on 12/26/2005 12:27:54 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

>>>Nah, I don't think you need foil...you're not a nutcase...just a socialist. ;-)<<<

Now that is just plain rude and uncalled for.

The technology being proposed does not do what you, and all the other nattering nabobs of unabashed paranoia think it's will do.


72 posted on 12/26/2005 12:34:24 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Don't have an annus horribilis in 2006.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Now that is just plain rude and uncalled for.

Yeah, and throwing around claims of paranoia is not? Sheesh...left your sense of humour afk, eh?

The technology being proposed does not do what you, and all the other nattering nabobs of unabashed paranoia think it's will do.

And now you will tell us all how you "know" this?

73 posted on 12/26/2005 12:39:59 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: clee1

"dogsqueeze"

I like it.

Here's another one: "Puppy Pasta"


74 posted on 12/26/2005 12:41:36 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: neodad

Ouch....good point.


75 posted on 12/26/2005 1:22:08 AM PST by jess35
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To: elkfersupper

Heck, you need an older model for your state. The roads in New Mexico (If you can call them that) would chew up and spit out most newer model vehicles.


76 posted on 12/26/2005 1:36:27 AM PST by jess35
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To: DBrow

I haven't yet install the new RFID-chip memory card they sent me in the mail last month. It works fine without it so the new card can sit in my desk as far as I'm concerned.


77 posted on 12/26/2005 5:30:00 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Using a credit card during the day probably gives out the most information of anything.


78 posted on 12/26/2005 5:35:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: jimtorr

Is keeping the phone turned off sufficient to not be tracked from cell to cell?


79 posted on 12/26/2005 8:57:02 AM PST by Lester Moore (The headwaters of the islamic river of death and hate are in Saudi Arabia.)
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To: elkfersupper

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

Yeah it was posted and got no attention at the time...


80 posted on 12/26/2005 9:01:52 AM PST by BallandPowder
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