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Missouri approves tracking cell phones for real-time traffic data
Kansas City Star via AP via kansascity.com ^ | 12/2/05 | GARANCE BURKE

Posted on 12/25/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by elkfersupper

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Missouri transportation officials approved a controversial contract Friday that will allow a private corporation to track signals from motorists' cell phones to map traffic snarls and highway congestion on major roads throughout the state.

As early as next week, that company, the National Engineering Technology Corp. (NET), will start monitoring thousands of cell phones in Kansas City and St. Louis, using their movements to test how to relay traffic conditions to the public in real time.

While officials say the program will make Missouri a national leader in "intelligent" traffic management, privacy advocates are concerned that getting more frequent travel time updates on road signs and Web sites may come at a price.

"This is a leap forward in our nation," said Missouri Department of Transportation Director Pete Rahn, minutes before the Highways and Transportation Commission's unanimous vote to authorize the contract. "No other department of transportation will be able to keep the users of their system as well informed."

The program charts drivers' relative speed by measuring the time between the intermittent signals cell phones send to towers along a stretch of road. Then, that information - stripped of the personal identification and serial numbers that identify the cell phone's owner - is overlaid with highway maps to determine where the phones are and how fast they are moving.

In six months, transportation officials say, Missouri motorists will be able to calculate their commute times by viewing such maps on the government's Web sites. Distilled versions of the information will also be displayed on electronic road signs along major highways, they said.

Cell phone monitoring already is being used by transportation officials in Baltimore, though not yet to relay traffic conditions to the public. Similar projects are getting under way in Norfolk, Va., and a stretch of Interstate 75 between Atlanta and Macon, Ga.

But monitoring phone signals along Missouri's 5,500 miles of major roads, many of which run through rural areas where cell phone coverage is spotty, makes for an additional challenge. On Friday, state officials had not determined which cell phone companies would provide information for the program.

That raised eyebrows at the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC).

"Consumers should have the right to opt into this public service," said Lillie Coney, associate director of Washington, D.C.-based EPIC. "Missouri may be creating a base for a new industry on the shoulders of the taxpayers."

Don Hillis, the director of system management for the Department of Transportation, said the state explored other options to provide the traffic flow information that motorists and logistics planners now expect and decided that wireless data collection was the cheapest way to go.

"We'll be able to give our drivers traffic information throughout their trips," said Hillis, who has overseen the project since its inception. "That said, we recognize the importance of the privacy issue, and we wouldn't do business with any company that would take any steps in the future to infringe on those rights." Hillis said regional planning commissions like the Mid-America Regional Council and the East-West Gateway Council of Governments will also have free access to the data to tackle congestion problems.

And as wireless technology evolves, Missouri officials believe there may be so much interest from users outside the government - such as trucking companies, satellite radio, mobile phones and GPS devices - that their investment could pay for itself.

Under the terms of the $6.2 million, two-year contract, NET will wholly own the information and is free to sell it to outside vendors that could profit from offering just-in-time travel updates. The government has no authority to monitor where the information ends up, but Hillis said that after two years, the state may enter a revenue-sharing agreement with NET.

"If you travel on a certain route every day, we'll eventually be able to give you alerts to see if an instance would keep you from getting to work on time," said Steven McDonald, a senior project manager for NET. "This has a lot of potential."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; cellphones; dot; govwatch; leo; libertarian; libertarians; motoristsbeware; surveillance; yourpapersplease
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To: freedumb2003
"If you travel on a certain route every day, we'll eventually be able to give you alerts to see if an instance would keep you from getting to work on time," said Steven McDonald, a senior project manager for SKYNET. "This has a lot of potential."


"I think it's a GREAT Idea! Now about that Plasma Rifle in the 30 mW range..."

21 posted on 12/25/2005 6:15:41 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: F15Eagle

or here's another idea...1984 is finally here!


22 posted on 12/25/2005 6:18:42 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: elkfersupper

Dig this:

The same people that wrote "1984", "bigbrother" and "yourpapersplease" on the keyword list, are the same that were "outraged" the Patriot Act wasn't permanently extended.

So... what is it???


23 posted on 12/25/2005 6:19:47 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: jimtorr
...page me, because I'm turning my cell phone off...

I have a company pager and a personal cell phone.
I usually leave my cell phone off. My wife calls me on the pager and I turn on the cell phone and return her call.

BTW, the company doesn't have my cell number.

24 posted on 12/25/2005 6:23:00 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: jimtorr

I'm turning my cell phone off, and removing the battery.<<<

Didnt u know...Knowingly trying to defraud a State agency is punishiable by law!



25 posted on 12/25/2005 6:23:31 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: elkfersupper
Every cell phone constantly pings to the nearest tower- that's how they work.

This data flows into the cell phone carrier's computers all the time.

So someone wants to strip the personal information from the cell ping and use it to track traffic, and everybody gets upset. This is not voice data, it's the cell data packet that is your phone saying "I'm here and turned on".

But you are forgetting that you are giving up this data anyway, to the cell company (and anyone else with a capable receiver). They constantly track all the phones that are turned on and within range, WITH the personal information. It's how cell technology works! If it's offensive to you to have depersonalized data used, it should be doubly offensive to have ALL of the data logged in some huge computer.

To avoid this egregious loss of rights don't get a cell.
26 posted on 12/25/2005 6:24:27 PM PST by DBrow
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To: elkfersupper
" National Engineering Technology Corp. (NET), will start monitoring thousands of cell phones in Kansas City and St. Louis, using their movements to test how to relay traffic conditions to the public in real time."

Is anyone ever really helped by listening to traffic reports?

Traffic is heavy and slow in every major city in the U.S., to and from work. So what's the use in all these ridiculous helicopters and airplanes buzzing overhead reporting the same thing every day? Big city traffic reports are as predictable as forcasting the weather in southern Arizona. "Today is going to be hot and dry, for a ten day forecast refer to today's weather report".

27 posted on 12/25/2005 6:28:09 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: dljordan
I'm waiting for the "if you have nothing to hide" crowd.

And the "it'll reduce insurance rates" crowd. {;o)

28 posted on 12/25/2005 6:28:39 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: El Conservador

Those people were all me. And your point is?


29 posted on 12/25/2005 6:29:27 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: clee1

"I still like a steaming pile of dogsqueeze better than this latest example of big-brotherism."

LOL!


30 posted on 12/25/2005 6:29:41 PM PST by dljordan
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To: elkfersupper
stripped of the personal identification and serial numbers that identify the cell phone's owner

For now, that is. Later, the government will claim that they absolutely need this information for, well, take your pick of reasons.

31 posted on 12/25/2005 6:31:12 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: clee1

>>>I don't like this... not even a little bit.<<<

hate to break it to you - but logging on to check your e-mail generates more personal, traceable information that could be data mined than these traffic sensors.


32 posted on 12/25/2005 6:33:32 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Happy Holidays? No thanks. I'm having a Merry Christmas instead.)
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To: Hardastarboard

The government always abuses everything, eventually!


33 posted on 12/25/2005 6:33:40 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: DBrow

You have got to stop spreading this truth man! It gets in the way of a good delusion... :)


34 posted on 12/25/2005 6:35:42 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Happy Holidays? No thanks. I'm having a Merry Christmas instead.)
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To: elkfersupper

OK.

Can you give us your position on privacy intrusion???


35 posted on 12/25/2005 6:36:28 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Today, when the government demands such data, they need a warrant unless certain conditions are met (like being in a terror cell).

They cannot demand cell ownership data from a carrier without a warrant, which is why the data is stripped to use it for counting cars on the highway.

Your phone constantly broadcasts it serial and other data, that's how cells connect and bills are sent, and how bootleggers steal your phone ID and load it into another cell, so you get the bill when the stolen phone is used.


36 posted on 12/25/2005 6:37:31 PM PST by DBrow
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To: elkfersupper
As early as next week, that company, the National Engineering Technology Corp. (NET), will start monitoring thousands of cell phones in Kansas City and St. Louis, using their movements to test how to relay traffic conditions to the public in real time.

This sounds like grounds for a class action lawsuit against this company

37 posted on 12/25/2005 6:38:41 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Keith in Iowa

He he he...sometimes I take the other tack and deliberately spread panic! Just depends on my mood at the time.


38 posted on 12/25/2005 6:38:59 PM PST by DBrow
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To: El Conservador
Can you give us your position on privacy intrusion???

Don't like it, generally won't put up with it.

39 posted on 12/25/2005 6:39:47 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Charlespg
This sounds like grounds for a class action lawsuit against this company

If only people cared enough to actually do something like that (don't hold your breath).

Safety at all costs, don't you know.

40 posted on 12/25/2005 6:43:27 PM PST by elkfersupper
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