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(Vanity) Need help identifying these Mexican rifles.
collectiblefirearms.com ^ | 24 Dec 05 | I got the rope

Posted on 12/24/2005 9:20:29 PM PST by I got the rope

All of my family (my brother, brother-in-laws, father, uncles, cousins) are in Texas and I'm stuck here in Florida, but we are having a discussion (online and on the phone) that will resume tomorrow about this picture:

The arguments are about all the different models of weapons found in this pic.


TOPICS: Mexico; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banditos; bang; banglist; help; mauser; mendoza; mexican; panchovilla
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My thoughts are from left to right (Mauser Model 1910, Mauser, Model 1910, Pancho Villa holding a Mauser Model 1910, Mauser Model 1995, Winchester Model (1873 in a .44-40?)

I believe all the Mausers to be chambered in 7mm.

My dad is keeping his mouth shut for now:

My brother says that Pancho Villa is holding a Mexican Mendoza in a 7mm and the last one on the far right is not a Winchester because the ammo on the guys bandolier is too long. He's thinking it could be a Remington rollingblock in a 7mm. I said, "Who cares about the bandolier."

What do y'all think?

BTW, I linked to a google search of a M1910 Mexican Mauser.

1 posted on 12/24/2005 9:20:30 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
I don't think it is a Mauser Model 1995.
2 posted on 12/24/2005 9:23:59 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: I got the rope; yarddog; Fielding; Robert A. Cook, PE

Thought you might be interested.


3 posted on 12/24/2005 9:25:44 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Ninian Dryhope

I'm also thinking Model 1902 Mauser, but it is essentially the same thing...the only difference being the 3-lug bolt.


4 posted on 12/24/2005 9:28:57 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Well, if the bolt is the only difference, then, since it is inside the receiver and not visible, the answer is impossible.


5 posted on 12/24/2005 9:35:08 PM PST by GSlob
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To: I got the rope

Slightly better version.

6 posted on 12/24/2005 9:35:35 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: I got the rope

You might find this account of the FBI's interest in 400 Springfield rifles of interest.

http://www.fbi.gov/page2/aug03/estrada081503.htm


7 posted on 12/24/2005 9:38:44 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: GSlob

A said 1895 because of the type.


8 posted on 12/24/2005 9:39:46 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: FreedomCalls

Hmmm....1903 Springfields?


9 posted on 12/24/2005 9:43:02 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: All

Merry Christmas!


10 posted on 12/24/2005 9:45:56 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Like to carry a lot of ammo, don't they?


11 posted on 12/24/2005 11:08:22 PM PST by Restorer
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To: I got the rope; Thinkin' Gal

What about the pants? Levis?


12 posted on 12/24/2005 11:12:23 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: I got the rope

I think the 4th gun looks more like an 1888-vintage Mauser...or possibly a Lebel or Mannlicher. Note that the magazine extends below the forestock. The last one could be a Wincheser model 1886....the cartridges on the bandolier look like 45-70 or 40-65.


13 posted on 12/25/2005 4:36:17 AM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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What about the pants? Levis?

Carhartt. We don't need no steenking Levis.

14 posted on 12/25/2005 4:41:01 AM PST by Recovering Hermit
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Can't really tell. The Mausers are probably some version of the Mexican Mauser in 7mm alright. The odd one could be an 1891 but just can't tell.

The last one could be a 94 in 30-30.

15 posted on 12/25/2005 5:20:57 AM PST by yarddog
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The 4th guy from the left looks like a German, maybe he brought the rest of them Mausers.
16 posted on 12/25/2005 5:26:28 AM PST by depenzz (My tastes are simple, I 'm always satisfied by the best)
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To: yarddog

Hard to tell. but the one on the right doesn't seem to have a tube magazine under the barrel, and is carbine length. A rolling block oe falling block action seems most likely to me.

I have an 1886, looking at the underside, the lever seems more prominent that the picture.


17 posted on 12/25/2005 5:37:56 AM PST by Wisconsin
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To: yarddog

Hard to tell. but the one on the right doesn't seem to have a tube magazine under the barrel, and is carbine length. A rolling block oe falling block action seems most likely to me.

I have an 1886, looking at the underside, the lever seems more prominent that the picture.


18 posted on 12/25/2005 5:38:13 AM PST by Wisconsin
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To: Wisconsin

I can't tell for sure but there appears to be a barrel band on that one. The tube wouldn't show clearly at that angle.


19 posted on 12/25/2005 5:40:35 AM PST by yarddog
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To: I got the rope; Squantos
When it comes to firearms one should always check with the Professor.

Ping!
20 posted on 12/25/2005 5:43:08 AM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,lawyers & politicians- All the same. Useless!!!)
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