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Why are the physical constants exactly the way we find them? Because that's the way they are in the universe we happen to find ourselves in. They are some other way in some other universe.
1 posted on 12/18/2005 5:46:35 AM PST by samtheman
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I've been doing reasearch for my doctoral on g-string theory. Now, if I can just find a school which offers that as a major...


2 posted on 12/18/2005 5:49:33 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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According to my paycheck, inflation is bad.


3 posted on 12/18/2005 5:52:08 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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John Kerry won the election in some alternate universe! Scary ;^)


4 posted on 12/18/2005 5:54:01 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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bump for later


5 posted on 12/18/2005 5:55:33 AM PST by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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Why do we have to go that route? We still aren't certain that the universe collapses are we? And if it does and recreates forever then the universe we see today would be inevitable.


6 posted on 12/18/2005 5:55:55 AM PST by bkepley
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They are some other way in some other universe.
By definition, there can be no other universe. It would be come a 'multiverse' then. In any case, am pretty mystified by all these abstract goings-on in the physics world nowadays. If something isn't testable, how can we accept it as truth? It would then become an axiom - that which can neither be proved nor disproved - and mathematicians have long known you can play god and create different consistent systems of study just by changing the axioms. We only of course choose the interesting ones. Maybe G-d, if He exists, does the same, eh?
10 posted on 12/18/2005 5:58:25 AM PST by voletti ("A man's character is his fate." - Heraclitus)
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ping


13 posted on 12/18/2005 6:07:10 AM PST by Pietro
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Ping for when I'm smart.


14 posted on 12/18/2005 6:08:10 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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I'm convinced that string theory is nothing more than high-fallutin' BS invented by stoned graduate students.


16 posted on 12/18/2005 6:12:22 AM PST by WarEagle (This is obviously Karl Rove's fault...)
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Doesn't the casimir effect prove a non-zero "cosmological constant"?


18 posted on 12/18/2005 6:13:45 AM PST by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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Why are physicists taking the idea of multiple universes seriously now? ... Without any explanation of nature's fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics.

Take out all the imaginary scientism between the two quotes and there you go! Not so hard after all.

By the way, the argument that we find the universe improbably friendly to life because we are alive in this universe is neither an explanation nor an argument, but merely begs the question. In these imaginary other universes, does conscious life exist in gasseous form in starless space? How about flying monkeys? In an infinite number of universes, surely there is one with flying monkeys! Cthulu? Wise and patriotic Democracts?
23 posted on 12/18/2005 6:33:00 AM PST by SalukiLawyer
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inflation implies: a huge universe with patches that are very different from one another. The bottom line is that we no longer have any good reason to believe that our tiny patch of universe is representative of the whole thing.

What would differ in those "anomolous" patches? Would they not conform to the same physical laws that govern this "patch?" Are we supposed to believe that Relativity extends to the very fabric of reality, and that Truth itself varies from locale to locale?

Would an intelligent observer from Tau Ceti IX see a universe governed by different laws, arising from completely different origins? Can we no longer rely on the assumption that certain values are immutable and universal?

Intriguing, but I suspect more of a parlor exercise than a physical reality.

27 posted on 12/18/2005 7:00:57 AM PST by IronJack
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Shall we go after the M-theory and trash the string theory?


32 posted on 12/18/2005 7:13:01 AM PST by Wiz
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Is string theory in trouble?

I'm a frayed knot

33 posted on 12/18/2005 7:13:59 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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"The universe is big. Really, really big. No one knows just how big it really is."

- Opening lines of "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy".
35 posted on 12/18/2005 7:19:40 AM PST by finnigan2
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But the belief that the universe beyond our causal horizon is homogeneous is just as speculative and just as susceptible to the Popperazzi.

Seems true. Nice turn of phrase, too. In my falsificationist persona, I suppose I am one of them.

37 posted on 12/18/2005 7:27:41 AM PST by aposiopetic
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A 'multiverse' in which every possibility happens blows Hell out of the experimental method, though.


39 posted on 12/18/2005 7:30:07 AM PST by Grut
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How is the belief in alternate universes different than the belief in a deity?


43 posted on 12/18/2005 7:53:39 AM PST by DOGEY
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According to Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe", we are 'toast' -- or just another slice of bread in the loaf.

The 'saddle' theory rings a bell, though. Make it a saddle that saddles the bottom and sides of the horse as well and you have a torus-like structure -- the old jelly donut theory.

Just watched the DVD Nova series on "The Elegant Universe" the other night. Very colorful and thought it presented some great models.

I can't add anything here, just making an observation.

I think space and matter only defines two aspects of the universe. Add time and you have a tri-universe, each aspect directly related and an emanation of the other.

So add them up and what do you get? Space + Matter + Time = 3 separate but unrelated units.

But multiplied, as Space x Matter x Time = the entire volume = 1 triuniverse.

44 posted on 12/18/2005 8:02:25 AM PST by Eastbound
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> Is string theory in trouble?

It always had been hanging by a thread.

Cosmology theories have changed radically more than once
during my lifetime, and may do so several times more.


45 posted on 12/18/2005 8:25:17 AM PST by Boundless
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