I think of this guy:
Posted on 12/17/2005 10:32:49 AM PST by quidnunc
How upset are you over the CIA “secret prison scandal”? Maybe you said, “What scandal?”, or maybe you’ve glanced at stories about it carried in the back pages of your newspaper. Here in Europe, it’s the giant screaming front page headline story on every paper you pick up from England to Germany.
The Europeans are in a state of high emotional froth over CIA “renditions” of Moslem terrorists seized in one of their countries and taken to a “secret prison” in Poland or elsewhere. The Euroweenies are far more concerned with the “human rights” of the terrorists than they are about the threat of terrorists to kill them.
If you think all of this is just an excuse to bash the CIA and indulge in anti-Americanism, you’re right — just as planned by the weasels.
Everyone on the right, it seems nowadays, from the editorials in the Wall Street Journal to conservative columnists like Mona Charen and bloggers like John Hinderacker, are issuing calls to “Investigate the CIA!” They have been suckered by the left.
They should instead be demanding, “Investigate the weasels, not the agency!” All of them have been accusing the CIA of conducting a covert war against the Bush Administration by leaking damaging classified information to leftwing journalists in the press. That the most damaging leak of all to date, the “secret prisons” story leaked to the Washington Post, is incredibly damaging to the CIA itself has not given them pause.
Why would the CIA conduct a covert war against itself? Because the agency is now being run by an ally of George Bush who is trying to root out left wing “rogue weasels” from its midst: Porter Goss.
You could call it, as some of the good guys at Langley are starting to, the Rogue Weasel Club. According to one member of the intel community, its members include:
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This is the cabal of leftwing spooks Bush and Goss are up against, who are purposefully damaging the president with leaks to the press and folks in Congress who wish them ill. One of them is the culprit who leaked the “secret prison” story to John McCain, who in turn leaked it to the Washington Post.
They are the ones who should be investigated — and it’s about time conservative critics of the CIA figured it out.
"How upset are you over the CIA “secret prison scandal”?"
It's kind of like the government listening in on phone calls - assumed they already did that and I assumed we had secret prisons... why else would the Chief justice of the supreme court be responsible for appointing judges to the secret courts if we didn't also have secret prisons?
That's another reason I support McCain's bill - it covers everyone - we don't have top specify rules for each agency.
Interesting list.
The Dems and Libs will destroy this country if they can't run it by elections.
Just think -- there are another 3+ years of these kind of "secrets" yet to be divulged undermining America and the President.
John McCain should now be considered no less than a Democrat and enemy of the Republic.
I think of this guy:
McCain made another ridiculous statement recently, saying that Americans do not torture and are not like the terrorists, which is why we need to support his bill (to prosecute Americans when they act like terrorists.)
McCain made another ridiculous statement recently, saying that Americans do not torture and are not like the terrorists, which is why we need to support his bill (to prosecute Americans when they act like terrorists.)
post the list of names
you got that right!
McCain the collaborator
From the first days of McCain's captivity, he seriously violated the Military Code of Conduct, which outlines the basic responsibilities and obligations of members of the Armed Forces of the United States who have been captured by the enemy.
According to documentation obtained by the U.S. Veteran Dispatch, not only did POW McCain promise to give the communists "military information" in exchange for special hospital care not ordinarily available to U.S. prisoners, but he also made numerous anti-war radio broadcasts.
Article V of the Code of Conduct is very specific in declaring that U.S. military personnel are required to avoid answering questions to the utmost of their ability and to make no oral or written statements disloyal to the United States and its allies or harmful to their cause. Any violation of this code is considered collaborating with the enemy.
The following is McCain's own admission of collaboration in an article he wrote, printed May 14, 1973 in U.S. News and World Report:
"I think it was on the fourth day [after being shot down] that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury. I looked at my knee. It was about the size, shape and color of a football. I remembered that when I was a flying instructor a fellow had ejected from his plane and broken his thigh. He had gone into shock, the blood had pooled in his leg, and he died, which came as quite a surprise to us - a man dying of a broken leg. Then I realized that a very similar thing was happening to me.
"When I saw it, I said to the guard, `O.K., get the officer.'"
"An officer came in after a few minutes. It was the man that we came to know very well as "The Bug." He was a psychotic torturer, one of the worst fiends that we had to deal with. I said, `O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.'"
The Admiral's son gets "special treatment"
McCain claims it was only a coincidence that, about the same time he was begging to be taken to a hospital, the Vietnamese learned his father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., commander of all U.S. forces in Europe and soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific, including Vietnam.
McCain does concede he survived because the Vietnamese learned who his father was, rushing him to a hospital where his wounds were eagerly treated.
The former POW admitted in the U.S. News and World Report article that the Vietnamese usually left other U.S. prisoners with similar wounds to die, not wishing to waste medication on them. McCain pointed out "there were hardly any amputees among the prisoners who came back because the North Vietnamese just would not give medical treatment to someone who was badly injured. They weren't going to waste their time."
McCain has failed to mention what he has confided to another U.S. prisoner that since the Vietnamese felt they had in their hands such a "special prisoner" and propaganda bonanza, a Soviet surgeon was called in to treat him.
The communists figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank, McCain was of royalty or the governing circle. They bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."
His communist handlers believed McCain, because he came from a "royal-family", would, when finally released, return to the United States to some important U.S. military or government job. Communist Interrogators and psychological warfare experts drooled at the thought.
McCain's handlers were very much aware that he would be under great psychological pressure not to do or say anything that would tarnish the name of his famous military family.
In fact, the communists considered that to be the key to eventually breaking and then "turning" their "special" prisoner, using blackmail if necessary.
According to U.S. government documents, within a week of POW McCain being transferred to the Gai Lam military hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him giving specific military information.
One report dated Nov. 9, 1967 read, "The question of the correspondent, McCain answered: "My assignment in to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to serious losses of pilots, which were sustained by this aircraft carrier (due to raids on the North Vietnamese Territory (VNA), and which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred like me from the forest to the Oriskany. Before I was shot down, we had made several sorties. All together, I made about 23 flights over North Vietnam."
In that article, McCain was further quoted describing the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
Six weeks after McCain was shot down, he was taken from the hospital and delivered to Room No. 11 of "The Plantation" and into the hands of two other POWs, who helped further nurse him along until he was eventually able to walk by himself.
Afterwards, his handlers isolated "special prisoner", McCain from other American prisoners and made him the target of intense psychological programs.
Signees to letter to Senator John McCain, December 9, 2005:
ROBERT BAER, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
VINCENT CANNISTRARO, former director of the CIA Counterterrorism Center
KATHLEEN CHRISTISON, former Analyst, Directorate of Intelligence, CIA
WILLIAM CHRISTISON, former National Intelligence Officer and Director, Office of Regional & Political Analysis, CIA
RICHARD CLARKE, former advisor, National Security Council
RAY CLOSE, former Chief of Station Officer, CIA
VICKI DIVOLL, former Assistant General Counsel, CIA
GRAHAM FULLER, former Vice-Chairman of the National Intelligence Council, CIA
MELVIN A. GOODMAN, former Analyst, Directorate of Intelligence, CIA
PHILIP GIRALDI, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
MICHAEL GRIMALDI, former Analyst, Directorate of Intelligence, CIA
RALPH M. HOCKLEY, Col. USA (ret), former intelligence officer
ARTHUR S. HULNICK, former intelligence officer, US Air Force, former CIA
LARRY C. JOHNSON, former Analyst, Directorate of Intelligence, CIA
EDWARD R. M. KANE, former Chief of Station, CIA
CAMERON LA CLAIR, former Executive Officer of Area Division, CIA
W. PATRICK LANG, Col. USA (ret), Chief of DIA Middle East Division, Director Defense Humint Services
LYNNE A. LARKIN, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
DAVID MACMICHAEL, former National Intelligence Council officer, CIA
TOM MAERTENS, former analyst, Intelligence and Research, Department of State
EUGENE A. MANNING, former Analyst, Office of National Estimates, Directorate of Intelligence, and Counterintelligence Center, CIA
JAMES MARCINKOWSKI, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
JOHN E. MARSH, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
RICHARD MCDERMOTT, former Army Counterintelligence Special Agent
RAY MCGOVERN, former Analyst, Directorate of Intelligence, CIA
DAVID RUPP, former Case Officer, Directorate of Operations, CIA
GARETH A. SHELLMAN, former intelligence analyst, U.S. Army Security Agency
JOHN P. SONTAG, former intelligence analyst, CIA and Department of State
LEWIS R. SORLEY, former Director, National Intelligence Emergency Support Office, CIA
ROBERT DAVID STEELE VIVAS, former clandestine officer, CIA
STANSFIELD TURNER, former Director of Central Intelligence
AMB. (RET) PHILIP C. WILCOX, JR., former Ambassador at Large for Counter Terrorism at Department of State
AUSTIN YAMADA, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Combating Terrorism
I think we need to post the list of Rogue Weasels here, in case something happens to the source.
These dudes are just another political pressure group. There are some on the list who haven't been in the CIA for more than a decade - in Stansfield Turner's case, for more than two decades.
They are damaging, however, in that they troll for information inside the Agency, and then make it public. How many things have you seen attributed to "former CIA" people? Those people are more than likely on this list.
Keeping senior Al Qaeda people in a secret place is not a scandal.
That's pretty much what McCain looks like, too, when the camera isn't on him. I've seen him in real life and when the camera is off him, it's quite a frightening change that happens.
I call BS. There are no doubt a number of people on that list who wouldl have condoned terrorism in the past.
Gee, I don't know,pop, if they're exposing classified information and undermining the CIC and DCI in the process, tipping off the enemy, they're more than just the Sierra Club.
BUMP!!!
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