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The Problem with God: Interview with Richard Dawkins
Beliefnet ^ | 12/05 | by Laura Sheahen

Posted on 12/13/2005 8:34:28 PM PST by tbird5

The renowned biologist talks about intelligent design, dishonest Christians, and why God is no better than an imaginary friend.

British biologist Richard Dawkins has made a name for himself defending evolution and fighting what he sees as religiously motivated attacks on science. Dr. Dawkins sat down with Beliefnet at the World Congress of Secular Humanism, where his keynote address focused on intelligent design.

You're concerned about the state of education, especially science education. If you were able to teach every person, what would you want people to believe?

I would want them to believe whatever evidence leads them to; I would want them to look at the evidence, judge it on its merits, not accept things because of internal revelation or faith, but purely on the basis of evidence.

Not everybody can evaluate all evidence; we can’t evaluate the evidence for quantum physics. So it does have to be a certain amount of taking things on trust. I have to take what physicists say on trust, for example, because I'm a biologist. But science [has] a system of appraisal, of peer review, so that I trust the physics community to get their act together in a way that I know from the inside. I wish people would put their trust in evidence, not in faith, revelation, tradition, or authority.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crevolist; dawkins; evolution; faith; god; richarddawkins; skeptics
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1 posted on 12/13/2005 8:34:29 PM PST by tbird5
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To: tbird5

There is NO problem with God, except for your own... as you are bound to discover one day.


2 posted on 12/13/2005 8:39:52 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: tbird5

He always resorts to name calling. Sad little man.


3 posted on 12/13/2005 8:40:10 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: tbird5
Boy, that is really childish. He thinks science can be taken on faith, because it has peer review. Guess he does not have even a rudimentary knowledge of all the fraud by scientists, all the revised scientific beliefs throughout time. I remember the dinosaur at the museum where for 100 years the scientists had the head at the end of the tail bone.

Why should scientists care what people believe with respect to religion? This is the problem, the secular arrogance of atheistic scientists. I seriously doubt these scientists have ever investigated a religious claim scientifically, they just "know" it is all nonsense.

I think any scientist who dismisses thoughts about the ultimate meaning behind the universe is a very shallow thinker. A good scientist knows the limitations of his vocation.

4 posted on 12/13/2005 8:40:59 PM PST by Williams
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***I think any scientist who dismisses thoughts about the ultimate meaning behind the universe is a very shallow thinker. A good scientist knows the limitations of his vocation.***

I totally agree. Furthermore, I believe God gave us our intellect and free will so that we might pursue knowledge through science as a way of paying homage to His great deeds and truly appreciating that which He created for us, not so we could try and disprove his very existence.


5 posted on 12/13/2005 8:46:14 PM PST by Zeppelin (Stop Global Warming. Shut a Liberal's Mouth.)
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To: tbird5

Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed reading the interview. Dawkins is fun to read and I must admit, I agree with everything he said in this interview.


6 posted on 12/13/2005 8:47:37 PM PST by shempy (EABOF)
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To: tbird5

INTREP - Richard Dawkins is one of the biggest hypocrites there is


7 posted on 12/13/2005 8:48:01 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: clee1
Ah, but the sorry sap, Richard Dawkins, wants to be god. His pride blinds himself to the obvious, hence the silly name calling since he has nothing of value to say or peddle. Yeah, "peer reviews" impress some ... LOL!
8 posted on 12/13/2005 8:48:24 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: tbird5

God did it all 1-2-3.

The proof is everywhere.


9 posted on 12/13/2005 8:51:08 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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Trusting someone or something sounds like putting your faith in them/it to me. Isn't he also relying on their authority? He obviously wants science to be taught from a purely secular humanist viewpoint. That's an agenda along with this...

My book, "Unweaving the Rainbow," is an attempt to elevate science to the level of poetry and to show how one can be—in a funny sort of way—rather spiritual about science. Not in a supernatural sense, but there are uplifting mysteries to be solved. The contemplation of the size and scale of the universe, of the depth of geological time, of the complexity of life--these all, to me, have an inspirational quality. It makes my life worthwhile to study them.

Sounds like he's just substituting one religion with another.
10 posted on 12/13/2005 8:55:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tbird5

The problem with the empericist approach is that it's incomplete.
There are simple conjectures we can make that can never be proved true or false, that doesn't mean they are "neither true nor false", but that we can't ever know them.

And that opens a realm as big, if not bigger, than the known universe.


11 posted on 12/13/2005 8:56:10 PM PST by djf (Bush wants to make Iraq like America. Solution: Send all illegal immigrants to Iraq!)
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To: TexasGreg

Ping


12 posted on 12/13/2005 8:58:48 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Zeppelin

What many people miss is that science is a tool to be used, not an end in itself. I think the earlier scientists like Newton, Galileo, Kepler, Copernicus, etc. had a much better grip on the relationship between science and faith. They were still able to make great strides in science even with what is considered today to be a great handicap.


13 posted on 12/13/2005 9:00:09 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tbird5
Understanding evolution led him to be an atheist. There's an interesting empirical proof for you. This guy basically believes that whenever science explains something, it proves the nonexistence of a God or reason behind the universe. I'd like to know how that foillows logically.

Funny, but when science can't see beyond the Big Bang, or inside a black hole, or determine the precise location of a quantum particle - he doesn't then conclude the existence of a God??? And these are not things science hasn't answered yet - science has determined these things are unknowable. Some would find that unknowable mystery to be the definition of God.

14 posted on 12/13/2005 9:01:26 PM PST by Williams
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> Why should scientists care what people believe with
> respect to religion?

He doesn't, so much. He said as much in the article.


15 posted on 12/13/2005 9:06:56 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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I hear you very clear there. Its the circular nature in their logic they do not see.

I have tried to make the same point albeit very poorly at times

Wolf
16 posted on 12/13/2005 9:09:19 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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I also enjoyed reading the article, and Dawkins makes a lot of sense.

Although I understand where he got his conclusions, ultimately I disagree with them. My personal experience leads me to believe that there's definitely something more than meets the eye going on in the universe, and beliefs in God and an afterlife are not unreasonable. Not from my point of view, at least.


17 posted on 12/13/2005 9:09:54 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: tbird5
Science doesn't - can't - answer questions of faith (truth). Religion doesn't address questions of science (fact). I honestly believe that people of faith belittle what faith is about when they seek to have the blessing of science.

If we people of faith decided that Love did not exist unless it were scientifically proven to be so, wouldn't we be turning our back on what Love is?

I actually think Dawkins did a pretty good job of keeping both apart, until this eruption:

Well, of course it is. Wouldn’t it be lovely to believe in an imaginary friend who listens to your thoughts, listens to your prayers, comforts you, consoles you, gives you life after death, can give you advice? Of course it’s satisfying, if you can believe it. But who wants to believe a lie?

NOT scientific, Dawkins. Keep to what science is about, and stop applying it to matters of faith.

18 posted on 12/13/2005 9:10:07 PM PST by wigswest
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

BS, Dawkins is in an absolute fight with religious thinking people. He mocks them and accuses them of unfair tactics. He says his daughter is way too smart to believe in God. You think he doesn't care if his daughter becomes religious?


19 posted on 12/13/2005 9:10:36 PM PST by Williams
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To: tbird5
After reading part of that I think we have a bunch of R. Dawkins juniors on the evo threads.

Wolf
20 posted on 12/13/2005 9:11:42 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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