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ABC and TIME Bury Their Own Poll With Great News From Iraq!!!
NewsBusters ^ | 12/11/05 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 12/11/2005 9:20:39 PM PST by Only Waxing

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To: Only Waxing
65 percent opposing the presence of U.S. forces...

Another Big Lie by the MSM.

21 posted on 12/11/2005 10:29:25 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Patriot Hooligan

Hang in there, the reporters won't whip ya!


22 posted on 12/11/2005 10:31:01 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Do you think that the dems could be at least respectfull enough to let the elections happen first before they started whinning about cutting and running?


23 posted on 12/11/2005 10:31:03 PM PST by TShaunK
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

(Just watch their selective reporting.....85% of Iraqi's want the Americqans gone......and their own soldiers in charge....\it is in the poll!)

Makes sense to me.Why in hell wouldn't they.


24 posted on 12/11/2005 10:34:38 PM PST by TShaunK
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To: Patriot Hooligan
I believe there's a special place being readied for those in the MSM who have deliberately misled the public (CNN especially) regarding Iraq. Tonight Fox did a program on the Iraqi Media...imagine my shock to see that the Iraqis have their version of Reality TV. One show has fashionable women going to various parts of Iraq and doing farm cores and another targets & broadcasts confessions of "captured" terrorists". Seems particularly moving when you notice the Producer/Director is missing a hand. Saddam had it removed & filmed as a teaching "tool"...because the man was doing business in US Dollars and only Saddam was allowed to do that.... I cannot believe the souless MSM who in their own sick demented minds support Saddam rather than have it said that George Bush was RIGHT about Saddam..... My prayer is that the Iraqis people employ the best revenge of all against the MSM...Prove them the liars they are by continuing to stand for Freedom and then Living Well..!
25 posted on 12/11/2005 10:35:45 PM PST by SergeantsLady (I support my soldier by supporting the mission he believes in...Iraqi Freedom.)
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To: knews_hound
What I think is that when I read the writer's theme, I thought "Oh, please, now way," but at the end of the article I was thinking "I think this guy's GOT it."

I like Rove but have always been cautious of the praise he gets as a genius by the MSM--doesn't seem to me they'd give a Repub that praise willingly, unless they were setting him up for a fall.

Let's put it this way: Whether this was intended or not is immaterial. Our cause in Iraq is just, and the democrats are just like Peter Lorre in M: They just can't HELP themselves!!!! When they see a chance to let their inner commie out, they can't resist, and BANG! the American people see the explosion and pull back. I think they will continue to do so once they digest the dems's rabid Pull Out to Insure Defeat strategy.

Pulling out now would be a complete disaster. The dems know this but they don't care, because they think that Kerry and Hillary and their crowd will have an easy time of it at cocktail parties with UN officials. Pulling out would toss in the dumper all our military families have sacrificed, all the effort and $$$. There is simply NO way a libocrat can argue that pulling out would not mean the anti-US forces would be emboldened.

Bush and company know this, and for all their flaws, they believe their cause is right. So they push on. And as with taxes, Bush will be proved right again. Even to some here.

26 posted on 12/11/2005 10:40:19 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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To: TomasUSMC
If any nation I considered friendly occupied us to get a Hilleritlarian dictaro out of power, I would oppose their presence even as they helped build me up. My attitude might be "Yeah, thanks, now leave."

But it'd still be wrong to pull out before the job is done. And if a pullout appeared imminent, I bet those numbers would shrink.

27 posted on 12/11/2005 10:42:33 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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To: msnimje
Does the poll include WHEN the Iraqi's want the Coalition forces to leave? The fact that 85% want them to leave is not news because they SHOULD want them to leave.

You are absolutely right! The Democrats know this but they try to give the opposite impression. The fact that they can do that without shame should be enough to turn everyone against them. Those who don't turn against them are equally worthy of shunning.

28 posted on 12/11/2005 10:50:59 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Darkwolf377
As a columnist, I generally try to look into a crystal ball and at the available data and make informed deductions.
 
It seems to me that one way or the other, the Dems are in Deep Kim Chee.

The Tipping point in Iraq arrives Thursday, and the Dems are finally getting it.

Just in time for the 2006 Elections.

The backtracking they are going to be doing is going to be epic.

Cheers,

knews hound

Latest Article "The Rope a Dope Gambit"
29 posted on 12/11/2005 10:54:05 PM PST by knews_hound (i know my typing sucks, i do it one handed ! (caps are especially tough))
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To: knews_hound
The dems don't seem to understand that what Americans want is a VICTORY, with our troops coming home in triumph, not in shame because their political leaders pulled the plug on them.

If our troops are forced to run home under a white flag, the dems will be seen as having been "right". Now, a show of hands---who here thinks THAT situation will happen?

WHEN our troops return home in victory, and Iraq is at least on its way to normalcy and democracy, please, someone explain to me how that will benefit the dems?

It won't. The dems are literally trapped by the very cliches they so desperately tried to escape. They cannot help but be seen as the ones who wanted to cut and run before we attained our ultimate victory. And that won't be forgotten.

30 posted on 12/11/2005 11:20:13 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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31 posted on 12/12/2005 12:13:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Only Waxing

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4514414.stm


32 posted on 12/12/2005 3:50:41 AM PST by pookie18 ((Hillary Rotten) Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Only Waxing

It should be obvious to everyone that John Kerry's plan for Iraq is working, now that this president is taking his advice. </s>


33 posted on 12/12/2005 4:08:55 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Only Waxing
This is damage control.

With Sunnis now guarding polling stations, the big story on Dec. 15 is going to be the lack of violence.

With this war, there will be no formal surrender, no announcement that the jihad has been defeated. We will know only in hindsight that at some point, they packed up and left. I believe the absence of violence on the 15th will be such a milestone. What we will witness here is CAPITULATION nonetheless. Terror has not delivered one success to the jihadis in Iraq. They have not even been able to disrupt the timetable for our tactical goals.

Bush has aimed his bat at center field, and on the 15th we can watch the ball go over the fence.

34 posted on 12/12/2005 4:31:29 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: hsalaw
They're trying to jinx the Iraq election and/or take credit for the inevitable drawdown of coalition troops as the Iraqi troops stand up.

By trying to do both at the same time, they have made sure they will lose. If the election were to go badly, we would not be able to leave as it would indicate that the security situation isn't where it should be.

Shows where being nuanced gets them.
35 posted on 12/12/2005 5:59:45 AM PST by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation. I am thankful for both.)
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To: msnimje
Does the poll include WHEN the Iraqi's want the Coalition forces to leave? The fact that 85% want them to leave is not news because they SHOULD want them to leave.

About a year to a year and a half ago, there was a poll done on that question. Only the part about 80% wanting the U.S. military to leave was widely reported. If you went into the details of the polls, you found that only 17% wanted us to leave within a year.

36 posted on 12/12/2005 6:22:04 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: BenLurkin

I bet they'd get the same poll results if they ask that question in right here in the U.S., and we aren't even getting attacked on a daily basis, except by our OWN DUmmiecrats!


37 posted on 12/12/2005 6:30:57 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: Only Waxing
From the poll:

Over 71% of Iraqis saying their lives are good, about a 10 point increase in the perception of several categories of local conditions, over 57% preferring Democracy to less than thirty supporting the dictatorship they had or an Islamic state...

And then 18% say they have confidence in the U.S. forces and more than half say the Iraqi invasion was wrong?

Either these are the most ungrateful people on the face of the planet who deserve to have Saddam back in power, or ABC has not been entirely honest in their polling methods.

Normal, logical people just don't believe in contradictions like that.
38 posted on 12/12/2005 2:32:51 PM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: Only Waxing
lol, I'm surprised I didn't catch this before. Apparently, people aren't "Dictators" anymore according to ABC and the MSM. They're now "single strong leaders for life."

lol!!!!

I hate the media...
39 posted on 12/12/2005 2:38:59 PM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good comments EATB. What I am curious about, is what the democrats might be up to over there. Over here they sing the party line of the terrorist. So what I want to know, is just what type of inservicing they are giving? Who are they actually giving that training to?

Is it their goal to make sure terrorist interests are looked after in Iraq, likey they already do in the U.S.?

Inquiring minds would like to know.


40 posted on 12/12/2005 3:53:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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