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Donor Network Right to Refuse Organs from Homosexual, Says Christian Doc
AgapePress ^ | 7 Dec 05 | Mary Rettig

Posted on 12/07/2005 7:49:57 PM PST by xzins

Donor Network Right to Refuse Organs from Homosexual, Says Christian Doc

By Mary Rettig December 7, 2005

(AgapePress) - Friends and family of a Tucson man are crying discrimination after the homosexual man's organs were rejected by the Donor Network of Arizona. However, a Kansas surgeon who works in organ transplantation says the decision was a good one.

Albert Soto, 51, intended to donate his eyes and other tissues after death, but a spokesman from the Network says the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta has established guidelines allowing centers to reject donations from men who have had sex with men in the last five years. Dr. David Pauls, a spokesman for the Christian Medical Association, says those guidelines are needed regardless -- even if the donor is HIV negative, as in Soto's case.

"Number one, HIV in early stages cannot be detected on testing; it takes a little bit [of time] there," Pauls explains. "But even if he's HIV negative, there's other infectious diseases that are fairly common within the homosexual population -- particularly hepatitis, which can be a very deadly complication in somebody who receives a transplant, and that sometimes also can be missed by screening."

Pauls says the organ donation and transplant business is heavily reliant on trust. "Trust is probably one of the most valuable commodities we have," he says. "If I ... as a physician am going to be doing a transplant, I'm want to do everything I can to make sure that the organs or the tissue that I'm transplanting is safe and is not going to cause other problems or other diseases in that patient."

Transplant patients, he says, obviously should have the same concerns. In Soto's case, Pauls says the man's risky sexual behavior makes using his organs a high risk for the recipient, who otherwise might be put in a position of being exposed to deadly infections. Meanwhile, Soto's family is petitioning officials in Tucson to change the CDC guidelines. The man died after suffering a stroke on Thanksgiving Day.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Rettig, a regular contributor to AgapePress, is a reporter for American Family Radio News, which can be heard online.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hepatitis; hiv; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; msm; organ; organdonation; publichealth; risk; tpl; transplant
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1 posted on 12/07/2005 7:49:59 PM PST by xzins
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform
Meanwhile, Soto's family is petitioning officials in Tucson to change the CDC guidelines. The man died after suffering a stroke on Thanksgiving Day.

Just why exactly are people based on personal political opinion allowed to petition to change medical safety standards? Isn't that on the list of the most ignorant things you've ever heard?

2 posted on 12/07/2005 7:52:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

What difference does it make if the organ was from a homosexual? An liver's a liver.


3 posted on 12/07/2005 7:52:39 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: xzins

Same as blodd, why take the chance. It is common sense. AIDS is primarily a behavior-preventable disease and acknowledging high-risk behavior should disqualify you.


4 posted on 12/07/2005 7:52:42 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: xzins
"In Soto's case, Pauls says the man's risky sexual behavior makes using his organs a high risk for the recipient, who otherwise might be put in a position of being exposed to deadly infections."

But, but, what about Soto's self esteem! /sarcasm

These people ARE mentally ill....to even think of doing that to an organ recipient.

5 posted on 12/07/2005 7:53:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (Merry Christmas......and if you don't like that, you don't get a day off....got it?)
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To: pcottraux

Uh...you might want to educate yourself about diseases and organs and other related medical issues. You're young....you'll figure it out.


6 posted on 12/07/2005 7:54:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (Merry Christmas......and if you don't like that, you don't get a day off....got it?)
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To: pcottraux

yea, parts is parts


7 posted on 12/07/2005 7:54:29 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: goodnesswins

Sorry. I'm probably going to be flamed for that.

I didn't realize their was a higher AIDS risk from gay donors.


8 posted on 12/07/2005 7:55:27 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux
Sorry. I'm probably going to be flamed for that.

Good thing I deleted instead of hitting post then.

Freep on...:)

9 posted on 12/07/2005 7:57:44 PM PST by digger48
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To: xzins
Maybe gays should start up their own donor program. And maybe they can relax all the restrictions/conditions that are in place with current sdonor programs.

Good luck!

10 posted on 12/07/2005 7:58:18 PM PST by bubman
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To: pcottraux

Got to agree! When you are dying of thirst, what's the difference between pepsi and coke?


11 posted on 12/07/2005 7:58:55 PM PST by Bonafide (Everything is Simple When You Understand It!)
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To: pcottraux

It can take up to 6 months for an HIV test to become positive after an individual is infected with the AIDS virus. Therefore there is up to a six month window that those with AIDS could be HIV negative but still infectious, particularly through organ transplant.

I would not think that you should take an organ transplant from someone that would be disqualified giving blood.


12 posted on 12/07/2005 7:59:00 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: xzins
"Number one, HIV in early stages cannot be detected on testing; it takes a little bit [of time] there," Pauls explains. "But even if he's HIV negative, there's other infectious diseases that are fairly common within the homosexual population -- particularly hepatitis, which can be a very deadly complication in somebody who receives a transplant, and that sometimes also can be missed by screening."

Most diseases are undetectable in the early stages, as are most types of cancers. So using Dr. David Pauls reasoning, no one should be able to donate their organs because they MIGHT be infected, but if said patients don't receive organ replacements, they are going to die sooner anyway.

By denying patients from receiving organs from those willing to donate them after death, Dr. David Pauls has blood on his hands.

13 posted on 12/07/2005 7:59:25 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: MoralSense; Mjaye; The Game Hen; Chesterbelloc; Petes Sandy Girl; MarMema; From many - one.; ...

14 posted on 12/07/2005 8:00:18 PM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jsher/)
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To: pcottraux

Your first reaction is understandable, given the need for organ donors.


15 posted on 12/07/2005 8:00:35 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Mom MD

Or, we could just take better care of our bodies and then less of us would need organ transplants anyway.


16 posted on 12/07/2005 8:00:57 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Paul C. Jesup
By denying patients from receiving organs from those willing to donate them after death, Dr. David Pauls has blood on his hands.

By implanting a potentially deadly disease into someone who could (possibly?) have survived to take a clean organ, the doctor exposes himself to millions in liability suits and the end of his career.

17 posted on 12/07/2005 8:02:12 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: AbeKrieger

"Same as blood, why take the risk?"

Hell, I'd risk it.


18 posted on 12/07/2005 8:02:16 PM PST by Arpege92 ("When the wise is pointing to the moon, the frog looks at the finger.")
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To: Theresawithanh

Yeah, that was kind of my point, because I'm always hearing about how short the supply for new organs is, and how people who need transplants have to wait for years and years while they're dying.

BTW, did you check out the singles thread the other night? I remember you asked me about it.


19 posted on 12/07/2005 8:02:36 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

That may be true for some, but there are people born with genetic diseases/congenital malforamtion that have nothing to do with the need for a transplant.

And even diabetics that take good care of themselves may need kidney transplants eventually. I feel for people on the transpant waiting list, it is a long agonizing wait and some die while they are on the list.


20 posted on 12/07/2005 8:03:31 PM PST by Mom MD
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