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War based on a lie (Letter to Editor Stars and Stripes)
Stars and Stripes European and Mideast Editions ^ | 11-28-2005 | Capt. Jeff Pirozzi

Posted on 11/30/2005 5:05:48 AM PST by FarmerW

Weapons of mass destruction? I’m still looking for them, and if you find any give me a call so we can justify our presence in Iraq. We started the war based on a lie, and we’ll finish it based on a lie. I say this because I am currently serving with a logistics headquarters in the Anbar province, between the cities of Fallujah and Ramadi. I am not fooled by the constant fabrication of “democracy” and “freedom” touted by our leadership at home and overseas print article | e-mail to a friend Letters to the Editor for Monday, November 28, 2005

Stars and Stripes

European and Mideast editions (EDITOR’S NOTE: These are the letters that appeared in each edition of Stripes on this publication date. Click here to jump ahead to the Pacific edition letters)

War based on a lie Weapons of mass destruction? I’m still looking for them, and if you find any give me a call so we can justify our presence in Iraq. We started the war based on a lie, and we’ll finish it based on a lie. I say this because I am currently serving with a logistics headquarters in the Anbar province, between the cities of Fallujah and Ramadi. I am not fooled by the constant fabrication of “democracy” and “freedom” touted by our leadership at home and overseas.

This deception is furthered by our armed forces’ belief that we can just enter ancient Mesopotamia and tell the locals about the benefits of a legislative assembly. While our European ancestors were hanging from trees, these ancient people were writing algebra and solving quadratic equations. Now we feel compelled to strong-arm them into accepting the spoils of capitalism and “laissez-faire” society. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching Britney Spears on MTV and driving to McDonald’s, but do you honestly believe that Sunnis, Shias and Kurds want our Western ideas of entertainment and freedom imposed on them? Think again.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; pirozzi; starsandstripes; taqaddum; wmd
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1 posted on 11/30/2005 5:05:49 AM PST by FarmerW
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To: FarmerW
"While our European ancestors were hanging from trees, these ancient people were writing algebra and solving quadratic equations."

A boy genius, for sure.

"Hanging from trees?" He's an idiot.

2 posted on 11/30/2005 5:07:58 AM PST by Reactionary (Liberals are the Lunatic Fringe of the Lunatic Fringe)
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To: FarmerW
We started the war based on a lie

Actually, after the first Gulf War any resolutions (articles of surrender) that Saddam broke meant we could LEGALLY go in there as if the first war never ended. The WMDs were just icing on the cake so to speak.

And, if we didn't wait around so long for world opinion we could very well have found them.

3 posted on 11/30/2005 5:08:27 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: FarmerW

Suggestion, just don't re-up.


4 posted on 11/30/2005 5:10:10 AM PST by VOYAGER (M<)
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To: FarmerW

Johnny Jihad had any cousins?

Based just off of what the letter writer said, I can tell that he/she's an idiot.


5 posted on 11/30/2005 5:11:38 AM PST by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: FarmerW
serving with a logistics headquarters

STFU REMF or resign. Gutless wonder. How do these losers get their Comissions?

6 posted on 11/30/2005 5:11:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Sen John McCain is not only wrong, he is dangerous to your Rights)
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To: FarmerW

What does Capt. Jeff Pirozzi consider 500 tons of uranium, sarin and mustard gas to be, if not WMDs?


7 posted on 11/30/2005 5:12:17 AM PST by Jemian (Message to Murtha: ONLY COWARDS CUT AND RUN.)
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To: VOYAGER
"Suggestion, just don't re-up."

Better suggestion. Resign.

8 posted on 11/30/2005 5:12:33 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Sen John McCain is not only wrong, he is dangerous to your Rights)
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To: FarmerW
LOL, them Dems send this "letter" everywhere, only it was signed by a different person, the whole thing sounds real familiar to me. Maybe it was in my little local paper, I'll have to ck it out.
9 posted on 11/30/2005 5:13:55 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Bogey78O

This guy is only looking for the attention he does not get as part of a team. He gets it by stabbing the rest of his soldiers in the back.

Since it is an all volunteer force, he needs to leave immediately!!


10 posted on 11/30/2005 5:13:55 AM PST by Laserman
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To: FarmerW

I'm surprised stars and stripes printed this. I bet some heads are going to roll because they did!


11 posted on 11/30/2005 5:14:30 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: VOYAGER
Suggestion, just don't re-up.

But what's the alternative for this boy wonder? I doubt "school is for him", and he just doesen't know what he wants to do with his life! But, hey.. you guys are colonialists!

12 posted on 11/30/2005 5:14:39 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: FarmerW

Well, as you can see...not all the soldiers are in it for the love of God and country. However, I'd bet he's one of only a handful. We quit subscribing to the S&S because it is more liberal than the NYT! We read no newspaper and all our news comes from the internet.


13 posted on 11/30/2005 5:16:14 AM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bet he is either a "Jag" officer, or pilots a desk.
doesn't sound like a warrior.


14 posted on 11/30/2005 5:20:49 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: FarmerW

The DNC must be salivating another possible impeacher for impeachment of 2007. Wonder what congressional district, could he be from California???


16 posted on 11/30/2005 5:23:55 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: FarmerW
He is entitled to his opinion even though I do not agree with it. I sounds like Pirozzi has been listening to Randi Rhodes>
17 posted on 11/30/2005 5:24:44 AM PST by street_lawyer
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To: FarmerW
War based on a lie - Weapons of mass destruction? I’m still looking for them, and if you find any give me a call so we can justify our presence in Iraq.

Before everyone starts to flame up, there are a lot of troops that do feel this way. While I personally don't, I'll say that the military and the government has done basically nothing to help the average guy know why he was sent to Iraq. There was no 'Why we fight' films like in WWII. The vast majority of troops don't know any more than what they see on the news. So, forgive them if they feel tricked. I've been to Iraq twice, and I've yet to have anyone explain to me why it was worth risking my life.

We started the war based on a lie, and we’ll finish it based on a lie. ... I am not fooled by the constant fabrication of “democracy” and “freedom” touted by our leadership at home and overseas.

Again, that's not an uncommon feeling. I'm not saying it's right, but some people do think that. If we had made that a bigger point before going in, it wouldn't seem contrived now.

This deception is furthered by our armed forces’ belief that we can just enter ancient Mesopotamia and tell the locals about the benefits of a legislative assembly.

This, obviously, is wrong. You could replace 'ancient Mesopotamia' with 'Imperial Japan' or 'Nazi Germany', and see that people always think we can't democratize a nation at gunpoint. Clearly, we can, and have, and will again.

Now we feel compelled to strong-arm them into accepting the spoils of capitalism and “laissez-faire” society. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching Britney Spears on MTV and driving to McDonald’s, but do you honestly believe that Sunnis, Shias and Kurds want our Western ideas of entertainment and freedom imposed on them? Think again.

Actually, they do. They like American movies. They all, and I mean all, like Tom and Jerry. I've met Iraqis that know more about American rappers and hip-hop stars than I do. They definitely like porn. They seem to enjoy voting, and arguing politics. They are a repressed and wacked out bunch, but they've been through a lot. To say that they don't want to have freedom or fun is to deny that they're people.

Anyway, I think that this article does express a lot of commonly held views, and our government has done nothing to inform and educate people. If soldiers feel this way, it's because the government sent them to war without telling them why. It's not exactly fair to blame them for being confused.

18 posted on 11/30/2005 5:25:11 AM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: FarmerW

Oh, this is going to reflect badly on his next OER....


19 posted on 11/30/2005 5:25:20 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Shery
We read no newspaper and all our news comes from the internet.

And in a related story, this just in: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1531111/posts.

20 posted on 11/30/2005 5:25:33 AM PST by TheGhostOfTomPaine
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