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MSNBC Gets It Right on Illegal Immigration

Posted on 11/27/2005 11:07:01 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

The grand purpose of Newsbusters is to present examples of provable factual bias in the mainstream media (MSM). This article does not do that. Instead, it presents an example of the MSM, specifically MSNBC, running a program on illegal immigration, which is scrupulously honest, fair and balanced.

I almost did not watch “Crossing the Line? The Battle at America’s Borders” because I thought this documentary, hosted by Lester Holt, would be the usual “pity the (illegal) immigrants and let them all in because they just want jobs” pabulum that the press usually generates. Five minutes in, it was clearly no such thing. And I watched it to the end, expecting it to degenerate into that biased approach eventually. Except for one obvious factual error near the end, it never did that.

(The quotes are taken from a TiVo of the program watched repeatedly to get the right. The transcript is not yet on the MSNBC website.)

Why write about a news program on a public issue where the MSM got it right? Well, consider how we paper train a puppy. We scold the puppy when it doesn’t go on the paper. But we also praise the puppy when it does go on the paper. Consider this as praise for the puppy, MSNBC.

The program used two men to present most of the story. One was Tim Donnelly, founder of the Minuteman of California, to watch the borders for illegal immigration. The other was Enrique Marones who is the leader of the Border Angels, which opposed the efforts of the Minutemen to close the borders to the “hard-working Mexicans who are just looking for a better life.” The Angels put out food and water for illegals on the US side of the border

Donnelly came first, and the program was careful to point out that his wife, who was also interviewed, was a legal immigrant from the Philippines. He said he was acting out of “a deep love for my country.” He wanted all who entered the US to come in legally. He emphasized that none of his attitudes had anything to do with race. As he said, “I don’t care what color you are. If you reach a port of entry and you have the proper documents, welcome to America.”

Enrique Marones came second, and he decried “the vigilantes” who are “racist migrant hunters.” He repeated that charge about “hunting the migrants” in a press interview in Mexico which was taped for this documentary. Then, the program presented the facts which had to do with this inflammatory charge. It noted that there were no reported instances of any of the Minutemen ever shooting at any immigrant, legal or otherwise.

It also presented a segment when a member was instructing other Minutemen about the weapons some of them were legally carrying. He said, “The only time you’re going to pull that weapon out is if you’re in imminent danger.”

One more thing which was purely visual, also demonstrated that the producers of this documentary were not biased in favor of illegal immigrants. When they interviewed Marones sitting in his car, the camera picked up dozens of political buttons on his dashboard and visor, including one for Kerry-Edwards and one for Che Guevare. If bias were afoot, that clip would have hit the cutting room floor.

The only clinker in the entire piece was near the end when it reported that “the month-long border watch... brought few apprehensions.” The missing fact there was that the Border Patrol itself reported that illegal immigration went down by about two-thirds during this critical month. This was the factual proof that more people on the border, even civilians with binoculars and cell phones, had a dramatic and positive effect on illegal immigration.

This program was so fair it could be used as a recruiting tool by the Minutemen themselves. It was that good. MSNBC deserves praise for preparing and presenting it.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


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1 posted on 11/27/2005 11:07:05 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

excellent piece CB! :)


2 posted on 11/27/2005 11:12:44 PM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Americanwolf
I found Enrique Marones comments interesting; such as he felt like he was "home" when entering Mexico and insisting that he was Mexican when talking to the Minutemen though making sure they knew he was born and raised in America and held dual citizenship. Mr. Marones came across as either very confused or a hypocrite.AWB
3 posted on 11/27/2005 11:33:42 PM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Donnelly came first, and the program was careful to point out that his wife, who was also interviewed, was a legal immigrant from the Philippines. He said he was acting out of “a deep love for my country.” He wanted all who entered the US to come in legally. He emphasized that none of his attitudes had anything to do with race. As he said, “I don’t care what color you are. If you reach a port of entry and you have the proper documents, welcome to America.”

BINGO!

4 posted on 11/27/2005 11:48:58 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Enrique Marones came second, and he decried “the vigilantes” who are “racist migrant hunters.”

Wow, this guy Enrique is very talented. In his three word description of the Minutemen, “racist migrant hunters”, he told three lies. I think Enrique deserves an award from La Raza for his effort.

5 posted on 11/28/2005 12:34:29 AM PST by judgeandjury
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Those are great points.


6 posted on 11/28/2005 12:55:02 AM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Congressman Billybob

Excellent Post!
barbra ann


7 posted on 11/28/2005 1:38:07 AM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

MSNBC know W's border policy is a sore point for conservatives, thats why they went to great lengths: anti-Bush material.


8 posted on 11/28/2005 3:06:38 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Lou Dobbs does a great job also.


9 posted on 11/28/2005 4:07:29 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thank you.

BUMP!

10 posted on 11/28/2005 4:20:48 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"MSNBC deserves praise for preparing and presenting it."

So. This is one of the democrats talking points for '06 and '08?

The media does nothing in a vacuum and if MSNBC decides to report honestly, I can only surmise this is a salvo in the political wars.

Or am I being too cynical?


11 posted on 11/28/2005 4:29:29 AM PST by OpusatFR
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When it comes to the MSM, sometimes the puppy is the paper.
{ducking}
12 posted on 11/28/2005 5:00:01 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: OpusatFR
"So. This is one of the democrats talking points for '06 and '08? "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>............
Yep - msnbc is just pointing the way for Demorats, This issue will drain many votes to the Dems as BUSH and CONGRESS continue to defy the American Public..who overwhelmingly want the border secure and a stop to illegal immigration.
When will our GOP and Congress ACT?? as for BUSH he has lost my confidence he will protect the BORDER and act on Illegals ..
13 posted on 11/28/2005 5:23:26 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: OpusatFR; Rennes Templar
I had the same thought as both of you. Thinking about Machiavelli, is this one of the few subjects on which an honest report is, nonetheless, an attack on the Republicans? I rule that out for two reasons.

First, the MSM is not that smart. Second, controlling America's borders is a wedge issue for the Democrats, as well as the Republicans. Witness the Kerry-Edward campaign materials slathered all over Enrique Marones' car. This issue will not just hurt the Republicans, it will realign the parties.

The question is, which party will first be smart enough to see that, and adjust. By a narrow margin (because of Bush's pro-Mexico approach), I think the Republicans will win that contest before 2008.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529643/posts"

14 posted on 11/28/2005 9:00:57 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Sorry. Blew the tag. Corrected below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "MSNBC Gets It Right on Illegal Immigration"

15 posted on 11/28/2005 9:04:04 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: judgeandjury

"“racist migrant hunters.”"

ROTF......just because we Americans don't want America to become another Mexico : )


16 posted on 11/28/2005 10:36:50 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Enrique Marones is not recognized as a dual citizen by the US, only by Mexico.

Tim is doing a kick@ss job running the show in California.

Vigilantes I'm proud to know BUMP!


17 posted on 11/28/2005 11:15:17 AM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you so much for your great article. I missed the show and must admit my bias. I don’t watch MSNBC. I finally lost some bias when I realized Lou Dobbs was at the forefront of this and other issues and started watching him last year. Yes, when they’re right they deserve the credit.

There is a story out today about all the border patrol uniforms being made in Mexico. One has to wonder how many of those uniforms are floating all over Mexico. Lou Dobbs first reported that story in June of 2004. Maybe something will finally be done about it. It is a Dept. of Homeland Security contract.


18 posted on 11/28/2005 5:17:09 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: OpusatFR
The media does nothing in a vacuum and if MSNBC decides to report honestly, I can only surmise this is a salvo in the political wars.

Or maybe they're not big enough to be hated by half the citizens? CNN can pull that off because they're nuts, but MSNBC would like to have viewers...

19 posted on 12/01/2005 12:44:07 PM PST by GOPJ
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