Bush plans anti-illegals campaign

The Washington Times ^ | November 28, 2005 | Bill Sammon

[ConservativeStatement]

President Bush today will call for a crackdown on illegal immigration, a move aimed at further rallying conservatives who recently cheered Mr. Bush's tough talk on Iraq and the Supreme Court. But the president will also renew his call for a program to allow Mexicans who have already entered the U.S. illegally to remain here for up to six years. That initiative has long angered conservatives who equate it with amnesty.

[ConservativeStatement]

Be strong, Mr. President.

[ncountylee]

I'm not holding my breath for anything effective.

[injin]

I would love to see Mr. President retract his remarks about the Minutemen and give them some thanks and praise instead.
They deserve it and he would be well advised to befriend this movement of good and decent people.

[Travis McGee]

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U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

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Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

[Americanwolfsbrother]

I for one am anxiously waiting here to what President Bush has to say. He needs to realize that amnesty will not be acceptable though.AWB

[Icelander]

Talk the Talk, but does he Walk the Walk??

[Americanwolfsbrother]

here=hear

[Icelander]

"But the president will also renew his call for a program to allow Mexicans who have already entered the U.S. illegally to remain here for up to six years"

oh boy.

[dennisw]

Bush plans anti-illegals campaign

It'll be worthless but designed to generate headlines, to give the illusion of serious action. So as to give the GWBush illegal alien amnesty political cover. GW has had 6 years to show he's serious about enforcing our borders and deporting illegal aliens, most especially illegal aliens who commit crimes here. He did diddly squat. The hacks in DC think illegal immigration is a joke.

 

[bybybill]

Hey, this is going to be another chance to slam Bush. Such fun. He won`t go as far as Tancredo wants (who could) and thats not enough. How about impeaching him?

And, if it hurts the war effort against terrorism and puts our troops in harms way, so what? Bush won`t go house to house, grapping Mexicans and thats what we want.

[DancesWithBolsheviks]

Other than Ronaldus Magnus, he was my favorite President in my lifetime. However, ever since his 'Vigilante' comment with respect to the Minutemen, I've been forced to seriously reconsider that position.

[Tzimisce]

Well, he just lost ANY hope of carrying the very important illegal immigrant vote. Thank god he's not running again.

[truth_seeker]

"I'm not holding my breath for anything effective."

Well I bet it will be calibrated to be just enough to use for Election Year.

But now is four years too late, so I expect it will be too little, as well.

[dennisw]

"But the president will also renew his call for a program to allow Mexicans who have already entered the U.S. illegally to remain here for up to six years"

oh boy.

Different day - same old open borders BS. 

 

[carton253]

I've asked this question before and have just gotten attitude in response..

Why aren't the Minutemen vigilantes?

Now, I wouldn't call them vigilantes, but people with good common sense... but aren't they vigilantes?

Please let me know.

[Travis McGee]

"Don't worry, I'll just call the new amnesty a 'guest worker' program.

"My peons are so stupid, they'll believe anything."

[msf92497]

I live in Oregon. This evening, my wife and I drove to WALMART to buy a few items. I was ASTONISHED by the number of shoppers speaking Spanish. It had to have been 1/3.

Please, Sir, we voted you back in as President because we trusted you to look out for us. Please deal decisively with the issue of illegal immigration.

[dennisw]

And, if it hurts the war effort against terrorism and puts our troops in harms way, so what? Bush won`t go house to house, grapping Mexicans and thats what we want.

Not quite. Start enforcing employer sanctions and illegal aliens will self deport themselves. They come here to work? According to you goofs at least. So no jobs= no money. Means they go back home and America isn't their home

 

[EternalVigilance]

The Minutemen are the best example of self-government in our generation.

[wardaddy]

that peso is funny

[Travis McGee]

A modern multiple fence system wouldn't hurt either.

[carton253]

Doesn't answer my question. Are they not vigilantes?

[Reagan Man]

President Bush today will call for a crackdown on illegal immigration... the president will also renew his call for a program to allow Mexicans who have already entered the U.S. illegally to remain here for up to six years. That initiative has long angered conservatives who equate it with amnesty.

The President is talking out both sides of his mouth. Cracking down on illegal immigration and offering amnesty are two conflicting policies. What Bush really wants is to continue a policy of open borders that plays to the Hispanic voters and leaves US businesses with endless cheap labor.

[thoughtomator]

Letting illegals stay is NOT cracking down on illegal immigration. More empty, insulting talk.

[no-to-illegals]

Should President Bush push this amnesty
for illegals? It will not bode well for
the Republican party should he choose
to do so. The Republican party has to make
a decision and 89 percent of Americans are not
going to be denied on the illegal issue.
Piss off 89 percent of the American public
and woe be unto he/she or the party having
done such.

I hope President Bush isn't going to be
"Stuck on Stupid" for a host of reasons
on this issue.

[Regulator]

Bush plans anti-illegals campaign

Ummm....no he doesn't

[Plutarch]

With the six year Guest Worker plan, the Bush Administration asks us to believe that a Democrat administration that will possibly succeed Bush's will forcibly deport those illegally extending their stay. This while at present laws are not enforced at all against those here entirely illegally.

Bush seeks to mollify and hoodwink conservatives through more elaborate and concerted bamboozling. They still don't understand that we are onto them.

[DTogo]

"I voted for cracking down on illegal immigration before I voted for amnesty."

Sounds like the guy we DIDN'T want to be President last November.

[Americanwolf]

vig·i·lan·te Audio pronunciation of "Vigilante" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vj-lnt) n. 1. One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands...

As per Minuteman SOP we have no law enforcement capabilities... our only job is to observe the border and report an illegals that cross the border to the Border Patrol.. The other part of of what minutemen do is do protest at day labor sites to protest the hiring of illegal aliens. We work within the boundaries of the law.

[injin]

well according to Cambridge Online dict you are correct :
Definition
vigilante
noun [C]
a person who tries in an unofficial way to prevent crime, or to catch and punish someone who has committed a crime, especially because they do not think that official organizations, such as the police, are controlling crime effectively. Vigilantes usually join together to form groups.

Still is todays pc vernacular it is used as a very dirty word , on the par of saying one is KKK . He said other negative things about they than the V word alone .
What he said played right into the sick rationale of the wide open borders people that would like to see the West rejoin Mexico . It wasn't right.

[djf]

Walk the walk?

There is no path here.

I personally call for a crackdown on murderers.

But out of sympathy, if you are out there somewhere and have committed a murder, we'll let ya go this time.



This makes NO SENSE at all.

[DTogo]

Build it here, build it NOW!

Coming to an American neighborhood near you, thanks to a lack of border security and immigration enforcement:

[carton253]

I don't know what he said, I'm sorry. But Minutemen are vigelantes... in my opinion, they are necessary, and I'm glad for them.

[dennisw]

 

 

Israel's multiple fence, border fence system. This fence is designed to succeed!! Sensors, cameras, paved access roads for fast armed response etc etc.

[carton253]

Just because I ask the question doesn't mean that I don't approve. I do.

[EternalVigilance]

No, they are not vigilantes.

Vigilantes take the law into their own hands.

The Minutemen's SOP is simply to observe and report.

And that is exactly what they have done.

Both you and the President owe them an apology.

[carton253]

Oh stop it. I didn't insult them. My word!

[therut]

Vigilantes are persons who illegally take the law into their own hands. They become judge, jury and executioner. These people are not breaking the law. They are being good citizens by watching for crime and reporting it to the appropriate authorities like we all do. They are a nation wide citizen watch group. Big difference.

[Americanwolf]

refer to my post 30 also for a definition... I am not sure how that can you can construe what the Minuteman do as vigilantism .

[luvbach1]

Talking the talk (almost) but not yet walking the walk. And it has taken so long.

[Americanwolf]

I don't take what you say as an insult.. I just don't think we fall under the vigilante banner..

[Dundee]

Maybe Bush could get pointers from John Howard on dealing with illegal immigrants.

[nutmeg]

ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

[Americanwolf]

HEAR HEAR!!!!

A voice of reason from down under! :)

[carton253]

well according to Cambridge Online dictionary:

Definition

vigilante

noun [C]

a person who tries in an unofficial way to prevent crime, or to catch and punish someone who has committed a crime, especially because they do not think that official organizations, such as the police, are controlling crime effectively. Vigilantes usually join together to form groups.

Just because I happen to agree that they fulfill the definition doesn't mean that I don't approve. Heck, if I lived on the border and the Minutemen were patrolling my property, I would give them sandwiches and coffee.

[luvbach1]

Are they not vigilantes?

You need to look up the word vigilante.

[toddrundgrenisgod]

Other than Ronaldus Magnus, he was my favorite President in my lifetime.

Ronald Maximus? Was he the same president who ran with his tail between his legs after getting 300 or so young Marines blown to hell in Beirut?

Thought so.

[carton253]

According to post 31... Minutemen are vigilantes... but then again... I happen to like vigilantes.

[carton253]

I think I did in post 46.