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China: Bird flu 'serious epidemic'(it keeps spreading)
CNN ^ | 11/22/05

Posted on 11/23/2005 7:20:32 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

China: Bird flu 'serious epidemic'

Beijing reports new outbreaks; New bans against Canadian poultry

HONG KONG, China (AP) -- China called bird flu a "serious epidemic" and reported three new outbreaks of the deadly virus in different parts of the country, while Canada announced multiple new cases but stressed they are not the virulent strain that has swept across Asia.

China's grim description Tuesday came as it reported its 18th, 19th and 20th outbreaks since late last month. The latest cases resulted in the killing of nearly 175,000 birds. The massive nation -- where billions of poultry are being vaccinated -- has reported one human fatality and one suspected death.

"The government is making all efforts to combat bird flu, which is a serious epidemic in China," Liu Jianchao, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, told reporters at a routine briefing.

Liu added that China was still "facing serious challenges" and that the country "will step up our efforts in order to resolve this bird flu issue."

The official Xinhua News Agency said that an outbreak in Urumqi, the capital of the far western region of Xinjiang, killed 38 birds on Nov. 16, prompting the culling of 8,388 birds.

Another in western Ningxia province's Yinchuan city on Nov. 17 killed 230 poultry, with 66,800 culled. On the same day in the southern province of Yunnan, 2,500 birds died in the city of Chuxiong, and authorities later put 99,400 birds to death, Xinhua said.

"The situation is currently under control in the three affected areas," Xinhua said, citing the Agriculture Ministry.

Japan, Hong Kong and Taiwan followed the United States in temporarily halting poultry imports from mainland British Columbia after Canadian officials said they found a duck infected with bird flu.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birdflu; china; epidemic; outbreak; spread
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1 posted on 11/23/2005 7:20:33 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2005 7:21:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I didn't read this ... just one question ...

Is this really being hyped up or the serious threat they believe it to be?


3 posted on 11/23/2005 7:22:04 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No matter how much they contain it, it's the wild birds that we must worry about. Correct?


4 posted on 11/23/2005 7:22:26 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: nmh

The pandemic appears to have taken flight!


5 posted on 11/23/2005 7:23:57 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: nmh
I notice, again and again, that the victims of this bird flu seem to be Asian.

When it broke out in Canada, hundreds of people were exposed but only Chinese people got sick.

I'm wondering how deadly it actually is to other ethnic groups.

6 posted on 11/23/2005 7:24:33 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake

The outbreak in Canada was SARS, not bird flu (I think there's a difference), and if I remember correctly, there were some non-Asian elderly who got sick too.


7 posted on 11/23/2005 7:25:57 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: nmh

From what I've read, the threat is real. The potential is there. That does not mean that it will become a pandemic. But if it does, it will rush through populations so fast that we will not have time to deal adequately with it. We need to prepare now. Bird flues are not new, but some are much worse than others. This is similar to the one that hit in 1918, I believe. We need to take it very seriously.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 7:26:49 AM PST by twigs
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To: netmilsmom
Re #4

Yeah, migrating wild birds are infected. They pass it to domesticated birds, and eventually to some humans.

You cannot shoot down all wild birds in long-distance flight.:(

9 posted on 11/23/2005 7:27:23 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: nmh
China's grim description Tuesday came as it reported its 18th, 19th and 20th outbreaks since late last month. The latest cases resulted in the killing of nearly 175,000 birds. The massive nation -- where billions of poultry are being vaccinated -- has reported one human fatality and one suspected death

We spent some time in China, and most Chinese are exposed to poultry on a daily basis. They get their food from open air markets, full of all kinds of animals, poultry included, which are butchered on the spot. Also, in front of many restaurants are cages with poultry, rabbits, snakes, etc, that they butcher as needed.

If (and this may be a big if) the Chinese are telling the truth, and the report of one fatality is correct, it would seem to indicate that at this time, the jump of the virus from birds to humans must not be that contagious.

I think what everybody worries about is whether the virus will mutate to a point where it's contagious, human to human.

10 posted on 11/23/2005 7:33:30 AM PST by dawn53
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To: nmh; twigs
Hyped. Mega-hyped.

Real, but hyped.

11 posted on 11/23/2005 7:36:21 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: wideawake
Frankly I get all these bird flus mixed up.

My husband was concerned about this so much that he didn't want me to get a turkey! How could Thanksgiving be that without one?

;) We have big turkey! Today is going to be a busy day preparing.
12 posted on 11/23/2005 7:40:17 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger = coul you post a link to that article you translated from Boxun the other day? About the over 300 humans dead and the 5000 quarantined? TIA!


13 posted on 11/23/2005 7:41:33 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: twigs

Why is THIS particular one different than the others?

Forgive my lack of knowledge on this stuff. One bird flu seems to be the same as another to me.


14 posted on 11/23/2005 7:41:34 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Maybe it can hit Hyannisport, work its way over to Beacon Hill and finish up somewhere in San Francisco.


15 posted on 11/23/2005 7:44:22 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: nmh

Apparently they are very different. Unfortunately, I'm not a scientist. This one is H5N1 and this one is bad because it works so fast in the body that if a person gets it, it's almost too late. Even if they get proper medication. There's more about it, I'm sure, but this is what I remember. There is an excellent researcher out of the University of Minnesota who has written about this. If I can remember his name, I'll try and find a link.


16 posted on 11/23/2005 7:54:17 AM PST by twigs
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To: Pyro7480
Canada has recently reported outbreaks of Bird Flu in their country. I'm not usre if this is related to birds only or any crossovers amongst their citizens.

I'll check.

17 posted on 11/23/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: nmh

Here's the link to the article Michael Osterholm wrote this summer. I heard this man on Bill Bennett's radio show and he sounded credible to me.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faessay84402/michael-t-osterholm/preparing-for-the-next-pandemic.html


18 posted on 11/23/2005 7:59:41 AM PST by twigs
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To: nmh
It is a very lethal new strain. Currently, the human mortality numbers are 50% of those who are confirmed infected. That doesn't count those who may have been, but didn't go to the doctor.

The danger is that this is a strain that would be completely new to the human population. Most of the other flu viruses out there are either so mild that it doesn't matter or have been in the population so long that everyone has a measure of immunity. This one is a new strain and has never been in the widespread human population before, so there is no immunity.

BTW, don't worry about the turkey. There hasn't been any confirmed cases in North American birds yet, and after the birds are butchered it isn't really possible to catch it while cooking.
19 posted on 11/23/2005 7:59:42 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wideawake

I imagine it has more to do with lifestyle and the proximity of domestic birds to people than ethnicity.


20 posted on 11/23/2005 7:59:55 AM PST by kenth (Come back here... so that I may brain thee!)
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