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Defeated by Defeatism
NRO ^ | November 21, 2005 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:54:57 AM PST by neverdem

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Defeated by Defeatism

Why Jack Murtha is wrong.

As everyone knows, Rep. Jack Murtha (D., Pa.) initiated a fierce debate last Thursday when he launched a scathing attack on Bush's Iraq policy, which he labeled ''a flawed policy wrapped in illusion," and called for a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. Murtha claimed that such a timetable would provide the Iraqi government with an added incentive to have their own security forces take control of the conflict.

Murtha's voice on this issue is important because he is a Democratic "hawk," a vanishing breed indeed, who as a long-time friend of the Pentagon, voted for the Iraq war. A decorated Marine Corps veteran of Vietnam, where he was wounded twice and awarded a Bronze Star, he is the top Democrat on the House appropriations defense subcommittee, widely respected on both sides of the aisle for his grasp of military issues.

According to Murtha, ''the U.S. cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. It's time to bring the troops home. . .They have become the enemy....It is time for a change in direction. Our military is suffering, the future of our country is at risk. We cannot continue on the present course. It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the Iraqi people or the Persian Gulf region."

Of course, Murtha's actions may be more symbolic than substantive. Murtha has been a critic of U.S. policy in Iraq for some time despite his vote to authorize the war. As readers of The Corner know, Murtha supported Howard Dean as DNC chairman and joined Nancy Pelosi in May 2004 in labeling the war "un-winnable."

But there is no need to attempt to discredit Murtha this way. The fact is that his resolution fails according to the very reasoning that one would expect from a Marine Vietnam veteran and a member of Congress "widely respected on both sides of the aisle for his grasp of military issues."

Announcing his proposal last Thursday, Murtha said that "Iraq can not be won 'militarily.'" He continued. "I have concluded that the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq is impeding this progress."

Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency. They are united against U.S. forces and we have become a catalyst for violence. U.S. troops are the common enemy of the Sunnis, Saddamists and foreign jihadists. I believe with a U.S. troop redeployment, the Iraqi security forces will be incentivized to take control. A poll recently conducted shows that over 80% of Iraqis are strongly opposed to the presence of coalition troops, and about 45% of the Iraqi population believe attacks against American troops are justified. I believe we need to turn Iraq over to the Iraqis.

I believe before the Iraqi elections, scheduled for mid December, the Iraqi people and the emerging government must be put on notice that the United States will immediately redeploy. All of Iraq must know that Iraq is free. Free from United States occupation. I believe this will send a signal to the Sunnis to join the political process for the good of a "free" Iraq.

But if the United States were to take Murtha's advice, the outcome would be precisely the opposite of what he desires. He only needs to recall what happened in Vietnam.

After 1968, the situation in Vietnam was very similar to the one that prevails in Iraq today. Trends were moving in the right direction for the Americans and South Vietnamese. The United States had changed its strategy after Tet 1968, scoring significant military successes against the North Vietnamese while advancing "Vietnamization." These successes helped stabilize the political and economic situation in South Vietnam, solidifying the attachment of the rural population to the South Vietnamese government and resulting in the establishment of the conditions necessary for South Vietnam's survival as a viable political entity.

The new strategy was vindicated during the 1972 Easter Offensive. This was the biggest offensive push of the war, greater in magnitude than either the 1968 Tet offensive or the final assault of 1975. While the U.S. provided massive air and naval support and while there were inevitable failures on the part of some South Vietnamese units, all in all, the South Vietnamese fought well. Then, having blunted the communist thrust, they recaptured territory that had been lost to Hanoi. So effective was the combination of the South Vietnamese army's performance during the Easter Offensive, an enhanced counterinsurgency effort, and LINEBACKER II — the so-called Christmas bombing of 1972 later that year — that the British counterinsurgency expert, Sir Robert Thompson concluded US-ARVN forces "had won the war. It was over."

But as Bob Sorley has observed, while the war in Vietnam "was being won on the ground... it was being lost at the peace table and in the U.S. Congress." First, the same sort of domestic defeatism that is endangering our effort in Iraq today impelled President Nixon to rush to extricate the country from Vietnam, forcing South Vietnam to accept a cease fire that permitted North Vietnamese Army forces to remain in South Vietnam.

Second, the Watergate scandal changed the makeup of Congress, which, in an act that still shames the United States to this day, then cut off military and economic assistance to South Vietnam. Finally, President Nixon resigned over Watergate and his successor, constrained by congressional action, defaulted on promises to respond with force to North Vietnamese violations of the peace terms. Only three years after blunting the communist Easter Offensive, and despite the heroic performance of some South Vietnamese units, South Vietnam collapsed against a much weaker, cobbled-together communist offensive. And South Vietnam ceased to exist, consigning millions of souls to communist tyranny and weakening the United States for a decade.

How did the North Vietnamese Communists pull this off? In 1990, North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap, confirming what he has written in his own memoirs, told Stanley Karnow that "We were not strong enough to drive out a half-million American troops, but that wasn't our aim. Our intention was to break the will of the American government to continue the war."

Murtha should know this history; the Iraqi insurgents certainly do, as illustrated by a passage in a letter from al Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri to Iraqi insurgent leader Abu Musab Zarqawi, dated July 9, 2005. In this letter, Zawahiri reminds Zarqawi that the war does not end with the expulsion of the American from Iraq. The danger is that the Americans might cut and run before Zarqawi is ready to fill the vacuum.

The aftermath of the collapse of American power in Vietnam-and how they ran and left their agents-is noteworthy. Because of that, we must be ready starting now, before events overtake us, and before we are surprised by the conspiracies of the Americans and the United Nations and their plans to fill the void behind them. We must take the initiative and impose a fait accompli upon our enemies, instead of the enemy imposing one on us, wherein our lot would be to merely resist their schemes.

Murtha's proposal would validate Zawahiri's belief that the United States is irresolute and weak and that the Americans will take the first opportunity to "run."

Murtha wants the Iraqis to bear more of the responsibility for their own security. But this is already happening. As I wrote in NRO earlier this month,

Coalition forces are able to apply simultaneous force against the insurgent strongholds and, more important, to stay in the area because many Iraqi units are now able conduct combat operations with minimal U.S. support. In a Pentagon press briefing on Sept. 30, Gen. George Casey, the U.S. ground-forces commander in Iraq, pointed out that the number of U.S.-Iraqi or independent Iraqi operations of company-size or greater had increased from about 160 in May to over 1,300 in September, and that US-Iraqi or independent Iraqi operations now constituted some 80 percent of all military operations in Iraq [emphasis added].

The increasing number of capable Iraqi units means that the Iraqi government can begin to extend the writ of the Iraqi government to Al Anbar province, the heart of the Sunni Triangle. For instance, the recently completed Operation River Gate has established a substantial Iraqi government presence in Haditha, Haqlaniyah, and Barwana, three former insurgent strongholds along the Euphrates River.

A pullout now would reverse this very favorable trend.

Finally, it is very clear that Murtha has been moved by the soldiers he has visited who have been wounded in the war and by the plight of those who have lost loved ones in Iraq. But those of us who respect his grasp of military affairs expect him, unlike members of the press, to be able to place casualties in strategic context. He dishonors the sacrifice of these men by treating them as victims rather than the heroes they are. We owe it to the American soldiers who have been killed or wounded in Iraq and the Iraqis who have fought to create a new state to see this effort through to the end, preventing a replay of the disgraceful episode three decades ago when the U.S. Congress betrayed and abandoned our South Vietnamese allies.

Mackubin Thomas Owens, an NRO contributing editor, is professor of national-security affairs at the Naval War College in Newport, RI. He led a Marine rifle platoon in Vietnam in 1968-69.


 

 
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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; cutandrunmurtha; democrats; iraq; jackmurtha; murtha; vietnam

1 posted on 11/21/2005 7:54:58 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
While the U.S. provided massive air and naval support and while there were inevitable failures on the part of some South Vietnamese units, all in all, the South Vietnamese fought well.
The NVA were great soldiers and that the ARVNs lost a few battles was not unexpected.
2 posted on 11/21/2005 7:59:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: neverdem

When Murtha uses the dodge that "even our military says the war can't be won militarily", he knows (or ought to know if he's not brain-dead) that our Joint Service Commanders have acknowledged that military force is only one component of an overall program of political, economic and security measures that are interdependent, and that at the end of the proverbial day it is up to the Iraqi people, and the leaders they democratically elect to represent them, to determine whether they will move forward, or backslide into tyranny or anarchy.


3 posted on 11/21/2005 8:10:09 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: neverdem
Thanks the Murtha, Kennedy, Pelosi, etc., The war in Iraq will take many years more than it should if it can now be won without civil war. Islamist hatred and liberal opportunism combine to "Vietnamize" another war. I read the other day on the Internet that 207 Silver Stars have been awarded in Iraq. The MSM refuses to acknowledge any soldier's sacrifice unless there is an anti-American or anti-Bush angle.
4 posted on 11/21/2005 8:36:01 AM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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Pentagon to Raise Importance of 'Stability' Efforts in War

If that's so, then it's time to permanently increase authorized end strength in all of the Army's components, at least. IIRC, active duty Army end strength, not the Army National Guard or Army Reserve, was temporarily increased by 30,000 to about 515,000.

That's almost equal to the total number of all Armed Forces personnel ever simultaneously deployed in and around Vietnam, the vast majority of which were in the Army, when the total number of troops on active duty just in the Army was about 1,500,000. "When the downsizing is complete the Department will still have 1,400,000 people on active duty and over 900,000 in the Selected Reserves." FWIW, the total active and reserve tally or personnel is now about 2,100,000.

5 posted on 11/21/2005 8:50:56 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Watched some of Murtha being softball interviewed by Russert. I am sorry. But anyone that states that 'there is no progress in Iraq' is either flat out lying or completely delusional. Anyone who states that 'no progress' is being made in Iraq, should be just labeled a nut case and put off in the corner somewhere where they wont hurt themselves or anyone else. There are some legitimate issues that need to be debated and addressed, but you only demonstrate your ignorance or duplicity by ignoring: the capture of Saddam; the destruction of Saddam's Army; the drafting of a Constitution; the incredibly high participation in the democratic process (higher then we have here in America); the capturing or killing of many of the Baa th hence man; etc..


6 posted on 11/21/2005 8:57:41 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 11/21/2005 9:03:04 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

bttt


8 posted on 11/21/2005 9:17:14 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: neverdem

As a Marine and an American Congressman John Defeat (D) Pa. embarrassed me with his talk of murthaing to the terrorists.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 9:21:39 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: neverdem

"But there is no need to discredit Murtha in this way. The fact that his resolution fails according to the very reasoning one would expect from a Marine Vietnam veteran and a member of Congress "widely respected on both sides of the aisle for his grasp of military issues."

Very well stated.


10 posted on 11/21/2005 9:35:48 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: neverdem
Sorry but this is not simple "Defeatism"...A Defeatist is someone that may be a pessimist in time of war but is not actively fighting against you county interest in time of peace

If you look at track record of the "Anti War" people we are dealing with, they are ACTIVE propaganda combatants "fifth column" for any and all "other side's" of our country, war or peace

11 posted on 11/21/2005 11:42:24 AM PST by tophat9000 (lose 3000 in an hour and you want to fight, lose 2000 in 2 years and you want to run !???)
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To: neverdem

total view count check bump


12 posted on 11/22/2005 7:49:43 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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