Commandments Draw 300 to Okla. Courthouse

AP via TBO ^ | November 20, 2005

[ncountylee]

TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- A group of pastors fired up a crowd of more than 300 people during a rally around a monument engraved with the Ten Commandments on the Haskell County Courthouse lawn.

U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn spoke Saturday at the gathering in favor of the monument, which a recent American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit says is a sign of the government favoring one religion over another.

But Coburn and others who were vocal at the rally contend that the statements listed in the Ten Commandments are guidelines to a moral, law-abiding society regardless of religious beliefs.

"I wish this was in every courthouse on the lawn," said Coburn, R-Okla. "We need more of this, not less."

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Jim Green, the Stigler resident who is the plaintiff in the ACLU case, was contacted by telephone and declined to comment because of the ongoing litigation.

The suit is the first of its kind in Oklahoma since a July ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court that Ten Commandments displays on government property are not inherently unconstitutional.

[zipp_city]

Why don't the churches put these monments in their own courtyards.

[CheyennePress]

A lot of them do. And many of these monuments have been in courthouses for decades, if not centuries.

How this suddenly became an issue of endorsement of religion, well, that's the ACLU's fabrication.

[Mulch]

Why do you think these monuments where within and outside American courthouses in the first place?

[tflabo]

Go Sen. Coburn and patriot Oklahomans. What the ACLU is doing to this nation is criminal and no better than what Communists in China are doing to their christians. Ruthlessly fight these ACLU vermin everywhere.

[2Jedismom]

Oklahoma Ping!

If you want on
or off this list
Freepmail me.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[loboinok]

"Ruthlessly fight these ACLU vermin everywhere."

We are... wanna help?
http://stoptheaclu.com

[loboinok]

ACLU PING

[Osage Orange]

Why don't the churches put these monments in their own courtyards.

They commonly do...

But also they are just following the 229 year historical rich Bible-believing tradition of the United States of America.

FWIW-

[Jay777]

ping! WAKE UP, AND FIGHT THE SECULARIZATION OF AMERICA!!! Don't just sit there and complain! Do something!

[Victoria Delsoul]

Bump.

[AndrewC]

Why don't the churches put these monments in their own courtyards.

I take it you've never been to a church.

[purpleland]

The *BIG BLEEPING* ALCU has really emerged from its relatively covert closeted neoMarxist subversive activism.
It is probably better than not to see the ACLU in the full light of day. Let the enemy be heard so all may know it.
Then we know what and how to counter it. Meet ACLU's action with profound counter-action.

Thanks, Jay, for your honourable persistance!

Ref. http://www.acluvsamerica.com

[Piquaboy]

I know where you can put a momument.

[zipp_city]

ok I will bite what church have you attended that have the 10 commandments in the entirety displayed there.

[AndrewC]

ok I will bite what church have you attended that have the 10 commandments in the entirety displayed there.

Everyone of them. Now answer my question.

[montag813]

I don't know why people fret so much about what courts have to say on these matters. No court has any jurisdiction over Ten Commandments displays unless they violate a state law specifically. The 1st and 10th Amendments prohibit the Federal Courts from any invasion of state rights with respect to religious expression. If and when a court rules against the displays, no state of Federal offical has any obligation whatsoever, to obey the edict. And the President is well within his powers to refuse to permit resources to enforce such a ruling, on the grounds that it violates the 10th Amendment.

[zipp_city]

I take it you've never been to a church.


I am not a church member but I do attend different churches with friends, and yes now and then a minister will refer to one or so of the 10 commandments but I have yet to find a church with all 10 posted as one would read them in the KJV anywhere on any church grounds. The churches just can not do that as they worship on the frist day of the week and The commandments say remember to wortship on the 7th day or last day of the week to show we believe in God our creator

[AndrewC]

The churches just can not do that as they worship on the frist day of the week and The commandments say remember to wortship on the 7th day or last day of the week to show we believe in God our creator

No the commandment is.

Exd 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

Here is some New Testament context. And Jesus arose on the first day of the week.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.  


 Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw [it], they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.  


 Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;  


 Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?  


 Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?  


 Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is [one] greater than the temple.  


 Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what [this] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.  


 Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.