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Germans Say U.S. Used Bad Data to Justify Iraq Invasion...
Drudge ^ | 11/19/05 | Drudge

Posted on 11/19/2005 3:05:26 PM PST by bnelson44

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To: jimbo123

Good catch. These guys are disgusting.


41 posted on 11/19/2005 4:21:25 PM PST by LS
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To: holden
That would be a good story if the Germans THEMSELVES did not say the same things in 2001; and the French; and the Russians; and the Israelis; and the IRANIANS; and the . . . and the . . . everybody knew the data was real. Saddam had WMDs.

The question the LA Times and others should be asking is, "where did they go?" not, "were there ever any . . ."

42 posted on 11/19/2005 4:23:54 PM PST by LS
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To: digger48

No Sh*t! I forgot about that. They were constantly firing at us in the no-fly zone. That alone is and was grounds for war.


43 posted on 11/19/2005 4:26:58 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: bnelson44
Der Begriff Lebensraum wurde zuerst von Friedrich Ratzel in seinen Werken "Politische Geographie" (1897) und "Der Lebensraum" (1901) geprägt. In den Ideen des Alldeutschen Verbands bleibt der Begriff weiter in Gebrauch und nach dem Ersten Weltkrieg wird er als Terminus mit wissenschaftlichem Anspruch durch Mitglieder der Schule des Georgraphen Karl Haushofer weitergeführt. Friedrich von Bernhardi weitet in seinem Buch Deutschland und der nächste Krieg (Stuttgart, 1912) die Hypothese aus und identifizierte erstmals Osteuropa als das potentielle Siedlungsgebiet.

Ever since Ratzel proposed that the All German Federation WOULD be in charge, not much has changed. A settlement area does not have to be restricted to a specific geography, and influence is of the utmost importance for the "next conflict". I call foreign intervention BS.

44 posted on 11/19/2005 4:33:25 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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Germany's leading role in arming Iraq
Atimes | 2.4.03 | Marc Ericson

Posted on 02/04/2003 12:40:53 PM EST by Enemy Of The State

Germany's leading role in arming Iraq By Marc Erikson

Expurgated portions of Iraq's December 7 report to the UN Security Council show that German firms made up the bulk of suppliers for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. What's galling is that German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and his minions have long known the facts, German intelligence services know them and have loads of information on what Saddam Hussein is hiding, and Schroeder nonetheless plays holier than thou to an easily manipulated, pacifist-inclined domestic audience.

If it's not the height of hypocrisy and opportunism, Schroeder's preemptive "no war. period" stance on Iraq and insistence on a "German Way" (Deutscher Weg) certainly come close. German Way? Haven't we heard that sort of talk before sometime, somewhere? But leave that be. It falls in the same category as Schroeder's former justice minister's comparison of US President George W Bush to Adolf Hitler in last summer's election campaign. Not only Schroeder and that unfortunate lady, but politicians elsewhere are of limited mental accountability when desperate about winning an election, and suffer lapses of speech and memory.

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Germany intercepts (30 tonnes) chemicals (may be used to make nerve gas) for N Korea
Daily Times (Pakistan) ^ | May 19, 2003 | AFP/Reuters

Posted on 05/18/2003 11:29:57 PM EDT by FairOpinion

BERLIN: The German government has intercepted a cargo of 30 tonnes of sodium cyanide, which can be used in the manufacture of chemical weapons, at the request of Washington which believes the shipment was bound for North Korea, according to the German weekly Der Spiegel.

The substance, commonly used in the treatment of metals, can also be in the manufacture of the deadly nerve gas Tabun.

The cargo was officially being shipped by a German company to a warehouse in Singapore.

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45 posted on 11/19/2005 5:19:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: jimbo123

They were full of info back then.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/011380.php


46 posted on 11/19/2005 5:24:14 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: bnelson44
Germans Say U.S. Used Bad Data to Justify Iraq Invasion

And the Germans used bad cowardice to justify avoiding the invasion.

47 posted on 11/19/2005 5:27:03 PM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: piasa

Ping.


48 posted on 11/19/2005 5:33:36 PM PST by Fedora
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To: bnelson44

What makes them think we used just one source of information?


49 posted on 11/19/2005 5:40:58 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: digger48

"Hasn't the Curveball story been played already? Not this particular one, but hasn't it?"

In the Senate Intel report, and the Germans didn't come out good.

This is revisionism. These Germans popping out at this particular moment can't just be the luck of a newspaper, but part of an orchestrated disinformation campaign.


50 posted on 11/19/2005 5:44:29 PM PST by Shermy
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Germans Say U.S. Used Bad Data to Justify Iraq Invasion...



U.S. says Germans have a keen grasp of the obvious.


51 posted on 11/19/2005 5:53:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: bnelson44

Germany isnt important enough to have an opinion.


52 posted on 11/19/2005 5:54:24 PM PST by rrrod
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To: Lancer_N3502A
What makes them think we used just one source of information?

They are taking a SWAG. On the cusp of possible renormalization of diplomatic niceties. Economic harm must be minimal, on a forward basis. To disclose all of our sources to hostile EU countries would be harmful. France and Germany ARE hostile. Perhaps not declared enemies, yet certainly hostile towards American interest. Our congress is an abject failure for not recognizing and acting on the EU hostility.

53 posted on 11/19/2005 5:57:01 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: bnelson44
Has Kerry been talking to world leaders again ...the ones that wanted him to be president?
54 posted on 11/19/2005 6:01:08 PM PST by I'mPeach
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To: rrrod
Germany isnt important enough to have an opinion.

Perhaps this would explain why we Americans have projected such a huge military presence in Germany for the last 60+ years. Because it is so unimportant.

55 posted on 11/19/2005 6:10:35 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: bnelson44

That's right. There was a mix up. The CIA got world temperature data and the president's climate advisors got the Iraqi weapons dump inventories.


56 posted on 11/19/2005 6:15:01 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Shermy

What else is the press good for? You don't think just anybody could go to where a newsworthy event is occuring and start taking pictures and asking people questions, could you?


57 posted on 11/19/2005 6:16:58 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: bnelson44
Pre-War "containment" of Saddam failed more each day.

1. The oil-for-food program was corrupt
2. The weapons inspections were a farce
3. US and allied planes were targeted
4. Uninspected flights to Baghdad gutted the sanctions
5. Terrorists were training in Iraq
6. Saddam supported terrorism ($25,000 to each family of a suicide bomber).
7. Saddam brutalized our fellow human beings

Saddam was thumbing his nose at decent people as he rewarded his collaborators.

58 posted on 11/19/2005 6:28:32 PM PST by syriacus (I'll take our success at liberating Iraq, over the "world community's" success at containing Saddam.)
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To: bnelson44

Wow, the L.A. Times is only a year late with the curveball story. Keep up the good work Tribune Company....you'll be laying another few hundred off in no time.


59 posted on 11/19/2005 6:31:03 PM PST by frankjr
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To: bnelson44

I thought your title was going to be 'Germans says US used bad data to justify Normandy invasion'.


60 posted on 11/19/2005 7:01:31 PM PST by rawhide
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