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WONDERING WHERE THE LIONS ARE (ABC News Story on Torture Debunked)
Federal Review ^ | Monday, November 14, 2005

Posted on 11/15/2005 5:41:45 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ABC News is reporting the "exclusive" story of two Iraqi "detainees" who are alleging that "they were repeatedly tortured by U.S. forces seeking information about Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction."

As part of their allegations, which are being brought to light as part of a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, the men allege that, in July 2003, "U.S. soldiers ...threatened [them] with live lions."

"They took us to a cage — an animal cage that had lions in it within the Republican Palace," he said. "And they threatened us that if we did not confess, they would put us inside the cage with the lions in it. It scared me a lot when they got me close to the cage, and they threatened me. And they opened the door and they threatened that if I did not confess, that they were going to throw me inside the cage. And as the lion was coming closer, they would pull me back out and shut the door, and tell me, 'We will give you one more chance to confess.' And I would say, 'Confess to what?'"

However, there's one big problem with the detainees' story: according to various news sources, the lions were removed from the palace three months earlier.

Since the detainees' story about the lions is false, it tends to indicate that, perhaps, the rest of their story is false.

Even a bit of rudimentary research was able to show the story about the lions was inaccurate. However, neither ABC nor, apparently, the ACLU bothered to conduct that research before making their charges. That failure seems to indicate both organizations are more concerned with their agendas than the truth.

We can only hope that this agenda driven story doesn't result in more violence against our troops.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; abcnews; bias; cia; lions; media; saddam; torture; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 11/15/2005 5:41:46 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ping


2 posted on 11/15/2005 5:42:07 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I don't think the Lion story is true.

But I do believe that one of the Iraqi detainees was turned into a newt. He told me so.

3 posted on 11/15/2005 5:43:06 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Darn, I was hoping the lions were real.


4 posted on 11/15/2005 5:46:24 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
As part of their allegations, which are being brought to light as part of a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, the men allege that, in July 2003, "U.S. soldiers ...threatened [them] with live lions."

The ACLU - conducting traitorous activities with taxpayer money. DEFUND THE ACLU...

5 posted on 11/15/2005 5:46:27 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
according to various news sources, the lions were removed from the palace three months earlier.

Ooopppps.

[Dang Internet.]


Related thread:

Detainees Claim Being Caged With Lions
6 posted on 11/15/2005 5:46:29 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Something about the "seriousness of the charge" that's important to the left, not the guilt or innocence.

Anyway, after the troops opened the cage door, did the lions, er, kind of walk around, or just lie there, or roar or what?

Like, here I am in a foreign country, just arrived, and I'm in charge of the lion cage, and like I'm going to OPEN THE DOOR, right?!?!?!

The story falls down right there. On the other hand, these particular detainees knew all about the lions, and seem to have been "old friends" or something.

Could it be they used to "feed" them before Saddam's fall?

Who let these guys loose!

7 posted on 11/15/2005 5:46:53 AM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It's not whether or not they were actually put in a cage with lions that did or did not exist, it's whether or not the ACLU and ABC News can make them seem convincing.
8 posted on 11/15/2005 5:48:08 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Maybe they were Detroit Lions.


9 posted on 11/15/2005 5:48:35 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The press puts out so much crap on this torture BS that any prisoner will claim to have been tortured and the MSM will eat it up. I don't know of any of our people being captured and being around to talk to anyone afterward. If these dirt bags are talking to ABC then we didn't torture them enough.


10 posted on 11/15/2005 5:48:49 AM PST by mortal19440
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What does the ACLU have to do with this? I thought they were to protect the civil liberties of Americans?


11 posted on 11/15/2005 5:51:06 AM PST by cardinal4 ("One man gone and another to go....")
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To: mortal19440

Put a bullet in their head at the git go and you won't have this problem.


12 posted on 11/15/2005 5:52:43 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

ping


13 posted on 11/15/2005 5:53:05 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: cardinal4

PETA Feels Lions Should eat only vegetables.


14 posted on 11/15/2005 5:53:18 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I think they watched 'Goodfellas' once too often.


15 posted on 11/15/2005 5:56:23 AM PST by siunevada
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To: Piquaboy
Put a bullet in their head..

And, charge their family for the price of the bullet as they do in China.

16 posted on 11/15/2005 5:56:41 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"Even a bit of rudimentary research was able to show the story about the lions was inaccurate. However, neither ABC nor, apparently, the ACLU bothered to conduct that research before making their charges. That failure seems to indicate both organizations are more concerned with their agendas than the truth."

Unfortunately 'Federal Review' is lacking even mroe in the research department.

Apparently there were more lions.

07/26/2004
Odai's lions get a happy ending, regular diet
http://www.mysanantonio.com/specials/battlefield/stories/MYSA072604.6A.saddamszoo.b84c97d.html


17 posted on 11/15/2005 6:00:43 AM PST by sumocide
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To: ClearCase_guy
But I do believe that one of the Iraqi detainees was turned into a newt. He told me so.

Yeah, but he got better. ;>)

18 posted on 11/15/2005 6:02:41 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Puppage

China does a few things right.


19 posted on 11/15/2005 6:03:35 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: sumocide

The lions in the article you cite were not at the palace, which is where the men claimed they were "tortured."


20 posted on 11/15/2005 6:04:39 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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