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2 Schools Ablaze As French Unrest Persists (only 208 cars so far Monday)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/13/05 | ANGELA DOLAND - ap

Posted on 11/13/2005 9:22:52 PM PST by NormsRevenge

PARIS - France's national police chief said Sunday that the country's worst rioting since the 1960s seemed to be nearing an end, but violence persisted into the night, with at least two schools set on fire and dozens of cars torched.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso proposed that the European Union give $58 million to France for helping riot-hit towns recover. He said the EU could make up to $1.2 billion available in longer-term support.

In scattered attacks overnight into Monday, vandals rammed a car into a primary school in the southern city of Toulouse before setting the building on fire and burned cars in northeastern Strasbourg. In northern France, arsonists set fire to a sports center in the suburb of Faches-Thumesnil and a school in the town of Halluin.

The rioting, sparked by the accidental electrocution deaths of two teens who thought police were chasing them, began in Paris' poor suburbs, where immigrants from North and West Africa live with their French-born children in housing projects.

Sunday was the 18th straight night of unrest, but the storm of arson attacks and other violence has lost steam since the government declared a state of emergency on Wednesday.

The number of cars burned nightly has steadily decreased — from 502 overnight into Saturday, to 374 overnight into Saturday, to 208 as Monday began. A week earlier, 1,400 cars were incinerated in a single night.

On Monday, the Cabinet was to propose a bill allowing an extension of the 12-day state of emergency if needed.

If the downward trend continues, "things could return to normal very quickly," National Police Chief Michel Gaudin said, noting that French youths burn about 100 cars on an average Saturday night.

France's worst unrest since the 1968 student-worker protests is forcing the country to confront anger that has built for decades over racial discrimination, crowded housing and unemployment. The national jobless rate is nearly 10 percent, but it is around 40 percent for youths in housing projects.

Venissieux, a Lyon suburb, was one of about 40 towns to impose a curfew for minors. "What's the point? There's not a war here!" young people cried out to patrolling police in one troubled neighborhood.

But several Venissieux mothers said the curfew made them feel more at ease.

"We always think we're going to see our car burned, or our neighbor's car burned, when we wake up in the morning," said 40-year-old Sihem, who declined to give her last name.

In the next few days, France is expected to start deporting foreigners implicated in the violence — a plan by law-and-order Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy that has caused divisions in the government.

A poll in the newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche suggested Sarkozy is the politician that French people trust most to deal with the troubles. Some 53 percent said they supported him, while about 71 percent said they lacked confidence in President Jacques Chirac.

Nearly a quarter said they trusted Jean-Marie Le Pen, the far-right leader who was Chirac's main challenger in the 2002 presidential race. Le Pen has seized on the violence to promote his National Front party's "zero immigration" platform.

More copycat attacks were registered in neighboring countries Sunday, with 29 vehicles torched in Belgium, four cars burned in the Dutch city of Rotterdam, and two cars burned in the Swiss town of Martigny.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; parisriots
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1 posted on 11/13/2005 9:22:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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A watchman and his dog guard the entrance to the nursery school of La Cite Verte (The Green Housing Project) in Carpentras, southern France, Sunday, Nov. 13, 2005. In incidents Saturday night, youths in Carpentras broke into the school and set a classroom on fire, the regional government said. The placard at left reads: 'Due to the disaster, children will be accommodated at the Roseraie Leisure Center from 8 am. Meals and evening nursery will be ensured'. (AP Photo/Patrick Gardin)


2 posted on 11/13/2005 9:23:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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'zero immigration' program? Sarkozy should adapt it. I like it!


3 posted on 11/13/2005 9:26:38 PM PST by Kitten Festival (This thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: NormsRevenge
... noting that French youths burn about 100 cars on an average Saturday night. Golly, THAT is what was burning when I passed through on the train!
4 posted on 11/13/2005 9:28:51 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NormsRevenge

Are you sure these are Muslims and not Greens? What is it with cars? Just the typical fixation of some typical pimply Muslim youth who only has a bicycle?


5 posted on 11/13/2005 9:32:30 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: NormsRevenge

they are running out of cars to burn, so they are moving on to schools and retirement homes.


6 posted on 11/13/2005 9:32:37 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: NormsRevenge
If the downward trend continues, "things could return to normal very quickly,"

Why do these fools treat this like some sort of weather phenomenon? They behave as if this is some sort of "natural" occurrence.

I'll say this much: if I caught some "troubled youth" (of "unknown ethnic origin") torching MY vehicle, the best he could hope for is to be hooked up to life support.

Oh crap. I must apologize here. My anger led me to state something offensive: the right to defend my personal property. My P.C. brainwashing, provided by the ever-concerned Tired Old Media, made me realize that fighting back against thugs and punks is imperialist. Correction: if I find a troubled youth torching my vehicle, home, and/or place of business, I should calmly call the authorities and patiently wait until they arrive and make it all better. NOT...

7 posted on 11/13/2005 9:35:41 PM PST by kromike
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To: NormsRevenge

But since only 200 cars burned (and two schools), violence is on the way down!


8 posted on 11/13/2005 9:35:56 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: Mount Athos

"they are running out of cars to burn, so they are moving on to schools and retirement homes."

Makes sense.


9 posted on 11/13/2005 9:37:22 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: NormsRevenge
The number of cars burned nightly has steadily decreased — from 502 overnight into Saturday, to 374 overnight into Saturday, to 208 as Monday began. A week earlier, 1,400 cars were incinerated in a single night.

Sounds more like they are running out of easily reached cars, not Jihadist Intifadi fervor.

11 posted on 11/13/2005 10:16:22 PM PST by El Gato
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Frogland has few private garages. I hope they have their goon squads out patrolling.


12 posted on 11/13/2005 10:22:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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I hope they have their goon squads out patrolling.

To do what? Corroborate the insurance claims, or to pass out marshmallows to keep it from being a total waste?

You don't actually expect them to be so antisocial as to interfere with, or worse, (GASP!) violate the rights or persons of the high spirited youngsters just having a little innocent fun?

13 posted on 11/13/2005 10:46:56 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To be goons. We wouldn't want to disappoint the yoots would we?


14 posted on 11/13/2005 10:48:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NormsRevenge

Are there any cars left in France that HAVEN'T been torched?!


15 posted on 11/13/2005 11:06:13 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NormsRevenge

Terror eases up? I guess even yout terr perps full of hate get tired eventually.


16 posted on 11/13/2005 11:13:18 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Chirac is start a new employment initiative. He has proposed the creation of 2000 new jobs, Parking Attendants.
17 posted on 11/13/2005 11:16:46 PM PST by one more state
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Mon Dieu! You DO want to violate them and their "rights"!

I'd like to catch one of their provacateurs tossing a firebomb at a mosque, so I could force him to actually light the fuse, and then aid his aim.

If going to dream, dream big.

Sad part is, we may get our chance right here at home, before many more moons are past.


18 posted on 11/13/2005 11:29:09 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


Then, correlate with some of our own problems:

For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


Note tagline...


19 posted on 11/14/2005 12:40:41 AM PST by backhoe (Muslim Women? Little Penguins in Bondage...)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; All
Its so much better for the French to live under the constant, smoldering threat of Islamic terror than to live with a full blown intifada...After all, people might actually expect them to fight back against an intifada.


French Terror Alert system

10 to 20 cars per night = warm

21 to 30 cares per night = warmer

31 to 40 cars per night = warmerer (you know...like Dumb and Dumberer)

41 to 200 cars per night = hot enough to make French toast

More than 200 cars per night = intifada
20 posted on 11/14/2005 6:11:59 AM PST by russesjunjee (Islam and the mainstream media worship the same master...)
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