By Jimmy Burns and Roger Blitz
Published: November 11 2005 02:00 | Last updated: November 11 2005 02:00
Posted on 11/12/2005 4:26:25 AM PST by milestogo
Muslims warn of reaction to terror measures
By Jimmy Burns and Roger Blitz
Published: November 11 2005 02:00 | Last updated: November 11 2005 02:00
Tony Blair's hopes of securing broad political support for his anti-terrorist strategy suffered another setback yesterday when key areas of policy came under attack from leading representatives of the Muslim community.
A Muslim working group set up by the Home Office to advise on ways to improve integration and tackle extremism following the London bombings in July criticised the government's "misguided over-emphasis" on a strategy of "counter-productive counter-terrorism". It also said British foreign policy was "a key contributory factor" in motivating extremists.
With ministers and police still smarting from the defeat of their proposal for a 90-day pre-charge detention limit, the Home Office was reminded that many Muslims regard existing anti-terrorism provisions as unjust and potentially alienating, contrary to the pro-government votes cast on Wednesday by some Muslim MPs.
The working group summarised its specific concerns: "There was a strong feeling that the present regime of anti-terrorism provisions was already excessive, that it was badly implemented and that it was resulting in 'counter-productive counter-terrorism' - in some cases, even used as propaganda to radicalise Muslims."
Mr Blair's plans to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir and al-Muhajiroun, two radical Islamist groups, would send them underground and make them "more problematic in the future", the working group added. It echoed calls from several Muslim groups for a public inquiry into the July terrorist attacks and said plans for a new offence of "glorifying" terrorism would lead to a "significant chill factor in the Muslim community".
It also urged the government to understand the impact of foreign policy on Muslim opinion. "British foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, cannot be left unconsidered as a factor in the motivations of criminal radical extremists," it said. "We believe it is a key contributory factor.''
Last night, Sher Khan of the Muslim Council of Britain, praised Sadiq Khan, the human rights lawyer, for voting against the 90-day detention limit when three other Muslim Labour MPs, Mohamed Sarwar, Khalid Mahmood and Shahid Malik, voted in favour.
"The MPs that stood their ground showed they were in tune with the grassroots opinion, both of the Muslim and wider communities," Mr Khan told the Muslim News.
Lord Ahmed, a Labour peer and government adviser on integration, told the Financial Times he would vote against any extension of the 14-day limit when it came to the House of Lords, although he predicted that a majority of parliament would hold at 28 days.
"The government needs to rethink its spending priorities," he said. "Even a fraction of what is going into financing the police could be used constructively in conflict resolution, creating jobs and opportunities and preventing extremism taking hold among (Muslim) youth."
For those in areas with a heavy Religion of Peace population, it's time to park in another neighborhood.
this article shows any sane person just what we are up against. they have infiltrated our very core, thanks to door opening from the dem/commie/athiest/libs. this will be a long and arduous task to defeat these vermin. just as we read of ancient wars like the sacking of troy, so too will future generations read about our fight for our very survival. or will they, for if we lose this fight, im sure all reference to our true identity will be expunged from all traces of history, this is what they plan and fight for.
In other words, the Islamic supremacists are telling the Brits, "Give us what we want. Let us take over. Then we will call off our "radicals." Uh huh.
There are alternatives, of course, but kissing Moslem butt ain't one of 'em!
Translation: give us whatever we want or we'll burn the place down...
One by one, the lines are being drawn.
At some point people will be forced to deside which side they're on in blood.
Islam has become a convenient dividing tool of the left."
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:
No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.
Then, there is this little problem...
For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:
Kindly note tagline:
I'm always amazed that the muslims are so against labling all muslims as terrorists, then they say, "it's the damn Jooozzz!" Or it's the "crusaders!"
Meaning, you can't lump us all together. But let's lump all THEM together! And then saw their heads off.
Mark
"In the UK we are being told that Bair's policy in Iraq is fueling Muslim alienation - but in France ( vigorously opposed to the war) is up in flames. Don't get me worng - we could well be next, but the point is they speak with forked tongue - using any argument to get what they want."
If you look into the events in France you'll find that there are many factors causing the unrest there, most of them not international or religion-based.
Do not fight terrorists or you will be facing.....terrorism.
Somebody summon up the b@lls to send these 3rd world, 7th century savages home to the cesspools from which they came.
Ah, the old "Don't call us terrorist or we'll blow you up." defense. Seems to work for them most of the time.
They need to be driven underground, alright. About 6 feet.
And why am I not surprised that to criminalize "glorifying terrorism" would have a "significant chill factor in the Muslim community"?
Keep at them, Tony. Don't back down. It's your England.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." ~ Ibrahim Hooper ~ (CAIR Spokesperson)
The 'gloryfying terrorism' clause is a pretty pathetic piece of legislation. One of those things that sounds fine in theory and runs into problems when you try to write it as a law. As it's written currently, it would make it illegal, for example, for me to advocate that the North Korean people should overthrow their government. I'm not sure it will pass the House of Lords intact in any case.
Gee, I wonder why Muslims would feel so afraid? After all, they keep trying to tell us islam has nothing to do with terrorism. One would think if they were not "glorifying" terrorism, they would have nothing to worry about.
Could it just be that they are admitting the shoe fits?
Steyn's recent "demographics" column really shows how it will not take that many, percentage-wise, in the population to have a huge effect.
It made me realize that the French are probably much closer in time to formal Dhimmitude than I had already thought.
While there are no doubt many factors in what's happening in France, many would have us completely ignore the Islamic component. This would be incredibly foolish.
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