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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"The biology teachers get the exact same salary if they teach ID or evolution. These aren't research centers, there's no extra funds for evolutionists over any other science. What we do have though are some religious people wanting to use taxpayer money to support their religion (ID/creationism)."


Oh those biology teachers are required by LAW to tell little children they are result of "common descent" mere animals. That is a "religious" ideology as there is NO evidence to show cause.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 6:01:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
"Oh those biology teachers are required by LAW to tell little children they are result of "common descent" mere animals."

Common descent is a fact. Teachers are also required to tell little children that in 1776 the Declaration of Independence was signed, and that matter is made of molecules, and that PI is about 3.14, not 3. They are required to teach facts. Why should they lie to little children and tell them that evolution is not supported by the evidence?

"That is a "religious" ideology as there is NO evidence to show cause."

Actually, it is your religious ideology that makes you close your eyes to the physical creation. You have been provided the evidence yet you refuse to see. There is no reason we must push your ideologically induced blindness on our children.
20 posted on 11/12/2005 6:10:58 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Just mythoughts
...tell little children they are result of "common descent" mere animals. That is a "religious" ideology as there is NO evidence to show cause.

People, chimps, gorillas and other great apes are unable to produce ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Almost all other mammals can. Why is this?

Because the *exact same* mutation occurs in people, chimps, gorillas and other great apes, but nowhere else. Guinea pigs are also unable to make vitamin C; but they have a different mutation.

There are "genetic markers" called ERVs (endogenous retroviruses) that are the remains of retrovirus infections.

There are some that are unique to people, chimps, gorillas, and other organisms. However, *every one* that has been found in both gorillas and chimps has also been found in people.

Standard biology *predicts* that this pattern will continue, and explains it by common ancestry; ID and creationism are, of course, unable to make predictions, not being in on the hypothetical designer's plans.

Do you doubt that this pattern will continue? Do you have a better explanation?

Here's a discussion in a Christian forum

Do a google search; I got over 10,000 hits.

This is the same sort of genetics that is used in paternity suits and geneology research. It's considered proof beyond a reasonable doubt in court; surely it rises to the level of evidence in biology class.

32 posted on 11/12/2005 6:55:42 AM PST by Virginia-American
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