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To: Just mythoughts
...tell little children they are result of "common descent" mere animals. That is a "religious" ideology as there is NO evidence to show cause.

People, chimps, gorillas and other great apes are unable to produce ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Almost all other mammals can. Why is this?

Because the *exact same* mutation occurs in people, chimps, gorillas and other great apes, but nowhere else. Guinea pigs are also unable to make vitamin C; but they have a different mutation.

There are "genetic markers" called ERVs (endogenous retroviruses) that are the remains of retrovirus infections.

There are some that are unique to people, chimps, gorillas, and other organisms. However, *every one* that has been found in both gorillas and chimps has also been found in people.

Standard biology *predicts* that this pattern will continue, and explains it by common ancestry; ID and creationism are, of course, unable to make predictions, not being in on the hypothetical designer's plans.

Do you doubt that this pattern will continue? Do you have a better explanation?

Here's a discussion in a Christian forum

Do a google search; I got over 10,000 hits.

This is the same sort of genetics that is used in paternity suits and geneology research. It's considered proof beyond a reasonable doubt in court; surely it rises to the level of evidence in biology class.

32 posted on 11/12/2005 6:55:42 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
"People, chimps, gorillas and other great apes are unable to produce ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Almost all other mammals can. Why is this?"

Commonality of species does not demonstrate descent, only their similarity of design and a requirement of diet of foods high in ascorbic acid production.

"Because the *exact same* mutation occurs in people, chimps, gorillas and other great apes, but nowhere else. Guinea pigs are also unable to make vitamin C; but they have a different mutation."

Can you categorically say the "exact same mutation" show common descent?

"There are "genetic markers" called ERVs (endogenous retroviruses) that are the remains of retrovirus infections.

There are some that are unique to people, chimps, gorillas, and other organisms. However, *every one* that has been found in both gorillas and chimps has also been found in people.

Standard biology *predicts* that this pattern will continue, and explains it by common ancestry; ID and creationism are, of course, unable to make predictions, not being in on the hypothetical designer's plans.

Do you doubt that this pattern will continue? Do you have a better explanation?"

As long as 'flesh' remains, the said patterns most likely will continue. However, patterns of similarity do not prove common descent. Patterns indicate order not chaos, and something initiated the pattern discovered, it did not just happen.

When the chimps and great apes start manufacturing jets, and submarines then evolutionists can with authority claim descent.
163 posted on 11/12/2005 1:42:35 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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