Posted on 11/11/2005 7:52:13 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
From the game:
"With the might of Rome behind it, Christianity spread rapidly thoughout the known world."
Notice the word "might" negates any idea that people converted to Christianity from any inner spiritual ideals. The fact is, the Roman Empire tried to crush Christianity with all its might, and only through spiritual faith did Romans become Christians. Also:
"When the Roman Empire fell, Christianity broke into two branches. Since then it has continued to fragment, with a number of branches quite hostile to others."
I would like to know who it is that is "quite hostile to others". The only place I can think of that could be described as such would be small area of the British controlled north Ireland. Considering all the many people of Christian faith living around the world in peace, this chosen view can be nothing but a twisted lie and Anti-Christian.
Now compare that negativity to how the game describes the documented cold blooded killer Muhammad:
"He and his followers were reviled and attacked by those who did not believe, but they were following the path that God had set for them and emerged triumphant, eventually unifying all Arabia under one rule."
Not a word about how Muhammad is documented to have been a highway robber, hostage taker for ransom, attacked towns and cities and murdered people in cold blood.
Furthermore the technology advance "scientific Method" makes religion obsolete, although I have never seen science disprove God or the human Soul.
And there is a technology advancement called "Liberalism" theat grants the first to discover it a free technology and enables "free speech" and "free religion" when the fact is that the people who have brought us free speech were Christians not Liberals and there is no "Conservatism" technology to be discovered.
And finally one other thing I have noticed is that for the "Internet", they actually have Al Gore with the American flag and after seeing their attitudes I already described you know they're not joking.
By the way, the game is simply more of the same boring stuff as before. Luckily they sent us a free copy because my wife reviews games. They claim it's 3-D, but there are only 3 set angles that you can rotate the view to, which makes Sid Meier not only Anti-Christian, but a liar, a cheat and a fraud.
I suspect that you're making too much of this. Protestants and Catholics had many wars. Thrty Years War. English Civil Wars. Many other examples. The Pilgrims came to Amrica to escape persecution by other Christians.
And its just a game.
Of course Civ 4 is liberal. When you win the game it ranks your score and awards you a title, like "You have the leadership qualities of Ghenghis Khan," or something to that effect. But if you beat the game and do so without many extra points, it tells you that you have the leadership qualities of Dan Quayle. Dan Quayle is the worst ranking you can recieve.
It's still a fun game.
Let me take a weird role and defend the liberalism claim:
see Classical Liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
Classical liberalism is a political and economic philosophy, originally founded on the Enlightenment tradition - established by thinkers such as Adam Smith -, as well as on the tradition of a Nordic school of liberalism even slightly before that, set in motion by a Finnish parlamentarian Anders Chydenius. Classical liberalism tries to circumscribe the limits of political power and to define and support individual liberty and private property. The phrase is often used as a means of delineating the older philosophy called liberalism from modern liberalism, in order to avoid semantic confusion.
Under modern liberalism or American Liberalism we see a little change:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Liberalism
Main distinction: Modern liberalism, as a branch of liberalism, contends that society must protect liberty and opportunity for all citizens.
In this case I believe they are referring to Constantine who proclaimed Christianity to be the religion of the Roman empire. And of course there were competing arguments and fighting afterward that led to the first council of Nicea (spelling?). Anyway you are right about how they downplay the Muslim part. How about that Saladin hmmm?
You need to read up on your history. Apparently you did not know of the religious wars which occured as a result of the Protestant Reformation. Now the above:
In the 18th century, at the time of the Scottish Enlightenment (Adam Smith, capitalism, etc.) and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (James Watt, steam engine) a powerful political philosophy was "liberalism" (note small "l"). This was based on the belief that people should be free of government intrusion. It is central to our own history. Now, in the 20th Century, the philosophy of "Liberalism" (note large "L") is a variant of communism.
The game may spell "liberalism" wrong (or perhaps you typed it wrong) but it seems to provide appropriate benefits to the advance.
And its just a game.
It is a fact that the people who gave us free speech were devoted Christians, sorry if that bothers you (not really).
"Liberal" as the term was originally used in the eighteenth, nineteenth, and early twentieth centuries did indeed refer to a person who believed in the (new and radical) ideals of freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, etc. were liberals in their own time.
It is a historical accident that in the United States we now use the term "liberal" to mean "authoritarian left-wing". "Liberal" still has its original meaning in every other English-speaking nation. In Great Britain or Australia, for instance, you would see a contrast between "liberalism" and "socialism".
Made up my mind. Aint buying it.
During the 30 years war, between Protestants and Catholics, something like 1/3 the population of Europe died -- either killed outright or starved to death.
All the Civ games pander to the politically correct, because if they didn't, they would be toast.
They attract conservatives, because they involve economic building and warfare. They attract liberals, because they are politically correct. For instance, all that business about pollution and global warming, and all those female rulers. There have been some splendid female rulers in history, but hardly at a ratio of 50-50.
If you want to play computer games, you'd might as well put up with it, because that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I hate to say it but all these boycotts are getting old.. all this will do is give a LOT more press to a game series that has become stale... I'm afraid many fellow Christians are becoming obsessed with finding offense. Would Jesus really want us spending our time and energy on this?
The game concerns history. The history of Christians is important to a game about history. Sorry.
"He and his followers were reviled and attacked by those who did not believe, but they were following the path that God had set for them and emerged triumphant, eventually unifying all Arabia under one rule."
Not a word about how Muhammad is documented to have been a highway robber, hostage taker for ransom, attacked towns and cities and murdered people in cold blood.
No mention either of Muhammad's penchant for pre-teen girls for rape.
At least some people here didn't sleep through history class.
Funny, from the fall of the Empire in the West at least as far as the Early Modern Period, Christian Europe was stuck in relative "dark wages" while the Muslim world was not. And I don't think you'll find anyone anywhere more genuinely religious than Medieval European Christians.
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