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Israelis Developing Alternatives To Arab Oil
Arutz-7 News Service ^ | 8NOV05 | Ezra HaLevi

Posted on 11/08/2005 4:32:03 PM PST by FunkyChicken

Arutz Sheva News Service - http://www.IsraelNationalNews.com ------------------------------------------------

Tuesday, November 08, 2005, 6 Cheshvan 5766

4. ISRAELIS DEVELOPING ALTERNATIVES TO ARAB OIL By Ezra HaLevi

An Israeli inventor and company are trying to use garbage and leftover olive pulp from olive-oil factories, respectively, to replace oil in providing fuel and electricity to the Jewish State.

From one ton of garbage, half a ton of oil, 300 kg of gas or 150 kg of green coal, from which electricity is produced, can be extracted, according to inventor Dr. Sergei Rosenberg.

Dr. Rosenberg spoke with Arutz-7 about the development of his invention that turns garbage into oil. "I turned to the Ministry of Infrastructure with my invention and they told me to build such a machine outside Israel and they would consider bringing it here," Rosenberg described. "I built the machine in Moldova and demonstrated there that it works – with the oil undergoing tests demonstrating that the process is not toxic."

Asked by Arutz-7's Yigal Schok why Israel is not pursuing the invention to wean the Jewish State off of Arab-controlled oil, Dr. Rosenberg said that the state was afraid of implementing the changeover due to concern of taking away the monopoly of the oil tycoons. "To my surprise much of the interest actually came from Arab parties because they have a lot of refuse they want to get rid of in an efficient manner," Rosenberg said.

Dr. Rosenberg gained the experience necessary to come up with his invention from working in Russia before he immigrated to Israel. "In Russia I helped with the building of an artificial reservoir, a number of power stations and I designed the water system for the nuclear core in Chernobyl, but Israel did not hire me for similar work since I don't have any connections. I have other ideas, such as wind turbines that operate on air and exploiting the power of the ocean's waves to produce power."

Another company, Genova Ltd., is also working on alternatives to Arab oil. The company has signed an agreement, according to Globes, with an olive press in the village of Julis, in the Galilee to establish a small facility to produce electricity from the waste from olive pressing.

The facility is slated to produce an estimated 200 kilowatts of power, enough to provide 70 homes with power. It will also provide for the disposing of olive waste formed during oil production, which has until now posed an environmental hazard.

Genova’s method heats the waste to temperatures abover 1500 degrees Fahrenheit, transforming it into a flammable gas. Burning that gas is environmentally-friendly, releases no greenhouse gases and causes no damage to the earth’s ozone layer. The gas operates an electricity-generating turbine.

The company hopes to market the product, which will be small enough to fit on a countertop, to other olive-oil producing countries such as Spain and Italy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: co2; electrolysis; fuel; fuelalternatives; garbage; gas; oil; oliveoil; olives
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1 posted on 11/08/2005 4:32:04 PM PST by FunkyChicken
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Interesting


2 posted on 11/08/2005 4:32:48 PM PST by Aetius
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To: FunkyChicken

"...transforming it into a flammable gas. Burning that gas is environmentally-friendly, releases no greenhouse gases..."

Sirens of junk science or nonsense are heard! All flammable gases will at least produce carbon dioxide in "cleanese" combustions, according to my high school Chemistry.

3 posted on 11/08/2005 4:35:37 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: FunkyChicken
Genova’s method heats the waste to temperatures abover 1500 degrees Fahrenheit

What and how much energy is used to generate that heat?

4 posted on 11/08/2005 4:35:48 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: NZerFromHK

Sounds like a pipe dream.


5 posted on 11/08/2005 4:43:51 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (I hate hippies - Eric Cartman)
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To: FunkyChicken

Interesting, if true.


6 posted on 11/08/2005 4:45:51 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Aetius

There's a company in the US that is building plants that convert garbage into oil as well. It's called Changing Technology. Apparently they build plants next to poultry and meat slaugther houses and convert stuff like turkey guts into oil.


7 posted on 11/08/2005 4:45:56 PM PST by kiwiexpat
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To: razorback-bert
From one ton of garbage, half a ton of oil, 300 kg of gas or 150 kg of green coal, from which electricity is produced, can be extracted, according to inventor Dr. Sergei Rosenberg.

I guess Sergei doesn't believe in Chanukkah any more, the old Scrooge.

8 posted on 11/08/2005 4:47:16 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: FunkyChicken

"Genova’s method heats the waste to temperatures abover 1500 degrees Fahrenheit"

Thermal depolymerization ,old news.


9 posted on 11/08/2005 4:49:29 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: NZerFromHK

Guess which greenhouse gas composes 98% of all GH gases? Water vapor! The amount of infra-red radiation that CO2 reflects compared to water vapor is extremely small.

BTW, don't you exhale carbon dioxide? Take the amount of CO2 yearly that you exhale multiply it by 6 billion and you have a big problem. Looks like we will need you and about 5.5 billion of you to stop breathing to control Solar Warming that is also affecting every other planet in our solar system.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane4.htm
Go about 1/3 the way down and see how the other planets are experiencing Solar Warming.

FC


10 posted on 11/08/2005 4:52:48 PM PST by FunkyChicken
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To: PositiveCogins

Do you know how it works exactly? I'm quite interested.


11 posted on 11/08/2005 4:54:53 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Alexander Rubin
There are quite a few web sites on the subject but what it boils down too is you take a load of crap heat it up to a high temperature say over 500f under pressure around 750psi. with water. The pressure and the heat help the water break down the carbon chains into hydrocarbons then the pressure is released quickly to get rid of the excess water and you have oil. The web sites can explain this a lot better than I can.
12 posted on 11/08/2005 5:06:32 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: PositiveCogins

Fascinating.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 5:08:15 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: FunkyChicken
Anything into Oil(solution to dependence on foregn oil?)
DISCOVER Vol. 24 No. 5 ^ | May 2003 | Brad Lemley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/posts
14 posted on 11/08/2005 5:14:43 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: FunkyChicken

Sounds like something similar is going on in the states right now. I hope it comes out big!


15 posted on 11/08/2005 5:16:49 PM PST by Whitewasher (Would u like America to be a goat nation in the millennium to come? Keep pushing the "Roadmap" bull!)
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To: kiwiexpat; Aetius
It's called Changing Technology

see post #14

16 posted on 11/08/2005 5:17:38 PM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: FunkyChicken
Dr. Rosenberg gained the experience necessary to come up with his invention from working in Russia before he immigrated to Israel. "In Russia I helped with the building of an artificial reservoir, a number of power stations and I designed the water system for the nuclear core in Chernobyl, but Israel did not hire me for similar work since I don't have any connections.

No offense dude but I would have left the Chernobyl thing off my resume.

17 posted on 11/08/2005 5:25:20 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: kiwiexpat
There's a company in the US that is building plants that convert garbage into oil as well. It's called Changing Technology.

Their website is http://www.changingworldtech.com/

However, they ran across a problem: they had expected to be able to get the refuse for essentially free (or maybe even expected to receive a disposal fee), but the fact that they are being charged for the turkey refuse is driving up their costs.

From a good story about what has happened there:

Appel and his colleagues had assumed turkey waste would cost nothing because they expected the federal government to put a ban on feeding animal waste to animals. They estimated that processing plants would pay them $24 a ton to take away the offal.

But that didn't happen, and Appel now is paying $52 a ton for animal waste, he said.

From a recent press release:

After a decade of intensive development, the first commercial-scale waste-to-oil plant based on the Thermal Conversion Process (TCP) of Changing World Technologies is successfully processing up to 270 tons of poultry offal into 300 barrels of oil daily in Carthage, Missouri. (Source: April 7th, 2005 press release).

It doesn't take long for even a small cost per pound of offal to strongly affect the operating costs to produce only 300 barrels of oil.

I have to admit that I am surprised to find that there is actually a market for turkey offal. I would have thought that Changing World would have been paid to dispose of the waste, instead of having to pay $52 a ton for it.

18 posted on 11/08/2005 5:34:08 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: PositiveCogins

Is this the same method the Germans used in WW2 for oil?


19 posted on 11/08/2005 6:07:41 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: gitmo
Don't know. The Germans were using all kinds of stuff towards the end but I think they used a lot of coal to make their fuel. I always wondered where technology would be today if Germany could have kept going after the war. By ransacking the place I think we gained more knowledge than we would have in 50 years. At that time of course.
20 posted on 11/08/2005 7:48:21 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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