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The War for Europe
MND ^ | Sunday, November 06, 2005 | by J. Thomas Lowry

Posted on 11/06/2005 6:18:06 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

It is alarming, though not surprising, to view the video from France. Each frame of film records, for posterity, the collapse of social order into chaos as perpetrated by Islamic gangs. Whilst the world appears shocked, few on the right have been caught unawares.

France occupies rarified air among the eight countries that project economic power across the globe. Never content to accept their role the French alone openly pander to North Africa and Islamic states. As a country with wealth and culture this is necessarily a bad thing as events have proven. Yet, to anyone with an orientation towards the past for guidance, it is not unexpected.

The French people possess an inferiority streak that is peculiar, inasmuch as it applies to their national identity. One need only read a history of the twentieth century to note the failures of France, both internally and, as is often pointed out, externally. That the German army made France their personal campsite twice during the century is enough to understand the French distaste for, in their minds, inferior cultures that resort to war.

Yet, in the images that are broadcast one is witness to a failure of epic proportions. The desire to be a world power is bloodlust among French leaders, so much so that in order to salve the conscience of a nation that deals nuclear material to the highest bidder, appeasement is regarded as compassion.

What is left then is social disorder. Social apologists proclaim that the riots are merely a cry for help among those feeling alienated by French society. In short France has failed her citizenry either way. If the Islamic thugs are forced to be subservient then all the hyperbole about France being an open and superior culture is drivel. Conversely if what is happening is the result of pandering to the Islamic hordes, which is more likely, then France has once again failed, in a Maginot Wall failure, to protect her internal security.

It must be noted that a failure in internal security in France has international consequences. The French are a nuclear power. Therein lays a very clear and present danger. It is doubtful that roving gangs will ever be able to access French military sites. The greatest threat will come from concessions that the government will grant to avoid further problems. Make no mistake; France will capitulate. In doing so Islamic clerics will gain a more noticeable foothold in establishing policy. It will begin locally but will spread.

If this sounds far-fetched consider the attacks on American soil. How many were caught unaware. Yet the United States acted swift and decisively to mitigate the threat. The citizenry demanded it and history shows that the United States, when faced with decisions about self preservation, will act accordingly.

France has no such history. In fact much of the government of France became Nazi collaborators in the Vichy government, including their greatest living military hero, Petain. There is little to suggest that this internal threat, while not as critical as tanks rumbling through the countryside, is as dangerous in the long term. If France follows history there will be another titanic internal struggle and it will be left to an outside force to rectify the problem.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; frenchmuslims; insurgency; intifada; jihad; liesnotlays; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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1 posted on 11/06/2005 6:18:06 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

This is an excellent commentary the likes of which you'll never see in the MSM. Nevertheless, it discounts the attachment the French and other Euros have to their respective cultures. The Frogs, the Krauts will not compromise on their culture and will do whatever it takes to keep them uninfected by the barbarism of Islam. It's a bit of a different story in the US, though. How much did it take for us to adopt the made up holiday of Kwanza? (May be unrelated to Islam, but still relevant to the point made.)


2 posted on 11/06/2005 6:27:14 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Ah France, home of the left-wing wacko Johnny Depp.

Ah France, gets what she deserves, just deserts.


3 posted on 11/06/2005 6:30:45 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
the French distaste for, in their minds, inferior cultures that resort to war.

Unless, of course, it's in the Ivory Coast.

4 posted on 11/06/2005 6:32:00 PM PST by wizardoz
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
If the Islamic thugs are forced to be subservient then all the hyperbole about France being an open and superior culture is drivel. Conversely if what is happening is the result of pandering to the Islamic hordes, which is more likely, then France has once again failed, in a Maginot Wall failure, to protect her internal security.

It's both. Riots and despair are as much a product of the welfare state as a product of Islam. It's where the brain dead mean the brain washed. No winners.

5 posted on 11/06/2005 6:33:13 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Who is Thomas Lowry?


6 posted on 11/06/2005 6:36:24 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: Revolting cat!
The Frogs will not compromise on their culture and will do whatever it takes to keep them uninfected by the barbarism of Islam.

First and foremost, they need to have more babies. With fertility rates like shown in the following graph, they will have aging and declining populations. They need North African and Turkish "guest workers" to make up for their native population loss. Doesn't look good.


7 posted on 11/06/2005 6:40:29 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I'm thinking of starting an office pool on the date that Paris surrenders.


8 posted on 11/06/2005 6:46:51 PM PST by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: Sam Cree

Don't know much more than this:

"J Thomas Lowry is a writer and amateur historian with interests in conservative and military history. He provides content daily on his weblog, Musings Per Diem. http://perdiem.blogs.com"


Seems like I've posted articles by him before that some didn't approve of. Or, maybe it was just Lowry that they didn't like.


9 posted on 11/06/2005 6:47:08 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Thanks. I'm sure I've seen his name on FR, but didn't remember who he is or what he thinks.

Some good points in the article, although certainly during the time of Napoleon, the French were warlike and aggressive. I'm not too optimistic about what'll happen here in this mess, but I hope the French authorities will kick ass. Probably wasting my hopes, though.


10 posted on 11/06/2005 6:53:06 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: Revolting cat!

Every December I have such good intentions to observe Kwanzaa, but every year I forget, what with Christmas and all the bowl games on TV. I'll just have to try harder to remember this year.


11 posted on 11/06/2005 6:58:22 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

My take: the Jews were well-assimilated and non-threatening, yet look what Europe did to them. If the Euro's ever get around to seeing Muslims as "the Other", what happened to the Jews will look like a garden party in comparison. Europe is fully capable of killing 30 million Muslims.


12 posted on 11/06/2005 7:02:48 PM PST by ikka
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
The rioters have placed themselves in a very dangerous position. no poltician likesto lilikes to look foolish and impotent. Also the French national character has a strong strain of cold-blooded realism. The rioters could quickly find themselves deported, imprisoned, or dead.
13 posted on 11/06/2005 7:02:52 PM PST by ishootskeet
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

"They need North African and Turkish "guest workers" to make up for their native population loss."

Any way we can make a quick buck by shipping them some of our "visitors" from south of the border?


14 posted on 11/06/2005 7:04:51 PM PST by Stand W (Confusion to our enemies)
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To: Sam Cree

You may be thinking of Rich Lowry of National Review, who is posted here often.


15 posted on 11/06/2005 7:04:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
"The desire to be a world power is bloodlust among French leaders, so much so that in order to salve the conscience of a nation that deals nuclear material to the highest bidder, appeasement is regarded as compassion." The underlined is the reason France is effectually impotent and sinking in their own socialist morass. It will never dawn on the feckless French that appeasing those determined to ultimately destroy you is a formula for suicide. Appeasement equals suicide whilst evil seeks to rule, and Islamism is pure, unadulterated EVIL.
16 posted on 11/06/2005 7:09:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Cicero

maybe so, now I'm even more confused ;-)


17 posted on 11/06/2005 7:13:26 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

What boycotts of don't buy French wines and stay away from visiting France could not entirely accomplish, this uproar definitely will have a negative impact to their tourist industry.
Tourism, which shows a positive income and employment source throughout the country along with agriculture which is highly, highly subsidized by the European Union are the main legs of France's existence.
There are clouds ahead for the French as the economy is laboring, stagnant, with 10% unemployment already.
Gloating however as the French media engaged in with New Orleans is not an American practice.


18 posted on 11/06/2005 7:16:18 PM PST by hermgem
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To: TheRobb7

The date of the fall of the Eiffel Tower would be interesing too.

I think it's less than two years from now.


19 posted on 11/06/2005 7:16:39 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

French fried frogs.


20 posted on 11/06/2005 7:18:17 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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