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The Fire This Time
Newsweek International ^ | Nov. 14, 2005 | Christopher Dickey

Posted on 11/06/2005 12:11:40 AM PST by ncountylee

Years of racism and neglect explode in a week of riots across France's mostly Muslim immigrant ghettos.

Word of the deaths spread quickly through Clichy-sous-Bois, a grim collection of housing projects an hour by train and bus from the center of Paris. Two teenage boys had been electrocuted while trying to hide near a transformer. Rumor said they were running from police. Soon, dozens of angry young men came from the soulless high-rises looking for cops to fight and cars to burn on streets named, as it happens, for heroes of French culture: Boulevard Emile Zola, Allee Albert Camus, Rue Picasso. Dead white men. "It's Baghdad here," the rioters shouted. By the end of that first night, Oct. 27, police would count 15 cars torched and six arrests. No firefighters or cops were injured and authorities claimed the situation was stabilized. But they were very wrong.

Night after night last week rage spread through the ghettos that ring Paris, then beyond—to the slums of Dijon in Burgundy, Rouen in Normandy, Toulouse, Rennes, Marseilles. When, on the fourth night, a tear-gas canister exploded near the entrance to a warehouselike mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois, forcing hundreds of worshipers to flee barefoot and gagging into Place Anatole France, a new cry went up from the vandals. "Now this is war," said one. Others cried "jihad."

It was neither, in fact, and the Paris known to tourists was not burning. It was far from the city center that cars and dumpsters were incinerated, buses attacked with Molotov cocktails and hundreds of arrests made. Police said gangs were increasingly organized, using the Internet and cell-phone text messages to coordinate. Dozens of people were injured and shots were fired at police; on Friday night alone nearly 900 cars were torched nationwide.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; frenchmuslims; parisriots
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1 posted on 11/06/2005 12:11:40 AM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee
But at the weekend, no one had been killed. The Los Angeles riots of 1992, by contrast, claimed the lives of more than 50 people.

Hey idiot...55 lives but the riot was over in 6 days (I was there).

2 posted on 11/06/2005 12:15:43 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

"It was neither, in fact, and the Paris known to tourists was not burning."

Not yet.


3 posted on 11/06/2005 12:17:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ncountylee
I heard the 19 hijackers of the 9-11 civilian-filled flying bombs were the product of the grim Mercedes-Benzes of Ridyah and the soulless indoor swimming pools of Mecca.

I don't have the stomach to read the whole article from Newsweek International, but I would like to know: does it include the phrase "wake-up call"?

(steely)

4 posted on 11/06/2005 12:24:31 AM PST by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: Steely Tom
"wake-up call"?

Your're kidding?

5 posted on 11/06/2005 12:26:15 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Steely Tom

dickey is one of "them"


6 posted on 11/06/2005 12:34:37 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: ncountylee
""Now this is war," said one. Others cried "jihad."

That's all it ever was. It's not about "poverty and "neglected Muslim Immigrants", It's about Islam, and what happens everywhere they reach saturation point. They riot and destroy the host country, turning it into a 3rd world Islamic hellhole. Indonesia, The Sudan, Nigeria, The Philippines, Somolia, India etc etc. Whereever Islam goes, so does death, destruction, riots, bombing, every tactic possible, used to win appeasement which never brings calm for very long.

7 posted on 11/06/2005 12:36:07 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: ncountylee
In the minds of Leftists across the world, the riots in France are a stark reminder only that France hasn't bent over backwards enough for the Islamofascist scourge. And now they are being punished for it.

Just wait...they'll say it in as many words soon.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 12:37:25 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: Forte Runningrock
Whereever Islam goes, so does death, destruction, riots, bombing, every tactic possible, used to win appeasement which never brings calm for very long.

Careful. Keep talking sense like that and you'll be branded a purveyor of "hate speech" by the effete elite. After all, they argue, Islam (which means submission) is really about "peace" and "tolerance"!

9 posted on 11/06/2005 12:39:11 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: ncountylee
It's time this wealthy nation shared a few crumbs of the oil wealth it sucked out of Saddam's Iraq - hundreds of billions of Francs in weapons sales and exclusive oil concessions - with these suffering put-upon people. Not to mention the millions taken from food for oil that went to Chirac's friends and associates.
10 posted on 11/06/2005 12:41:35 AM PST by Diogenez (Chirac - you took too much)
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To: ncountylee
"...on streets named, as it happens, for heroes of French culture: Boulevard Emile Zola, Allee Albert Camus, Rue Picasso. Dead white men.

All you need to read to know Dickey is just another Marxist pig with a college diploma.

11 posted on 11/06/2005 12:44:39 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Others have died for my freedom — now this is my mark." Cpl. Jeffrey Starr, USMC)
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To: ncountylee; All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


Kindly note tagline...


12 posted on 11/06/2005 12:45:26 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: Prime Choice
It's Bush's fault- somehow, The du tin hatters are coming out in full force

Catrina (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:04 AM

I find it very suspicious.
This seems like an allout attack on the whole country. And very organized. Not something a groups of immigrants could do on their own.

And of course, It because of poverty and poor treatment of Islamic immigrants, MSM has that angle covered as well. It's the same old "normal" lunatic rantings over at DUmmie land.

Those idiots just haven't a clue what's really going on in the world. Rightwingers will no doubt use this to claim that Muslims are crazy and that's why we need to fight them. And of course, they will be thrilled that Muslims are attacking France, who couldn't see how 'right Bush was to fight them over there etc.'. I'm getting more and more suspicious about it, to be honest. I hope the French get to who's behind this. wookie294 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:31 AM

The CIA has financed riots in the past.
Is this Bush's declaration of war on France? Anything's possible with sinking poll numbers.

wookie294 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:20 AM

Yes, a French judge is investigating Halliburton bribes in Nigeria
The bribes were paid when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. More here....

> http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/bribery_nigeria.ht...

13 posted on 11/06/2005 12:49:04 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Prime Choice
OOps, that got messed up somehow.

It's Bush's fault- somehow, The du tin hatters are coming out in full force

Catrina (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:04 AM

I find it very suspicious.
This seems like an allout attack on the whole country. And very organized. Not something a groups of immigrants could do on their own.

Rightwingers will no doubt use this to claim that Muslims are crazy and that's why we need to fight them. And of course, they will be thrilled that Muslims are attacking France, who couldn't see how 'right Bush was to fight them over there etc.'. I'm getting more and more suspicious about it, to be honest. I hope the French get to who's behind this.

wookie294 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:31 AM

The CIA has financed riots in the past.
Is this Bush's declaration of war on France? Anything's possible with sinking poll numbers.

wookie294 (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-05 12:20 AM

Yes, a French judge is investigating Halliburton bribes in Nigeria
The bribes were paid when Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. More here....

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/bribery_nigeria.ht...

Of course, It because of poverty and poor treatment of Islamic immigrants, MSM has that angle covered as well. It's the same old "normal" lunatic rantings over at DUmmie land. Never will they admi socialism fails over and over again in Europe, causing wars and mass death. Islam is going to take advantage of it this time around.

Those idiots just haven't a clue what's really going on in the world.

14 posted on 11/06/2005 12:55:37 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: All
ON THE NET...

WorldNetDaily.com: "RADICAL ISLAM BLAMED FOR FRENCH RIOTING Muslims 'scorn' Europe's ways, 'conspire to take it over'" (November 5, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (SkyNews): "MUSLIMS SET DISABLED WOMAN ON FIRE IN PARIS" (November 4, 2005)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "PARIS BURNING" by Robert Spencer (November 4, 2005)

"www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=France"

15 posted on 11/06/2005 1:02:52 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Prime Choice
LMAO! One of those idiota says Jimmy Carter secretly created and financed the Taliban to create an international terrorist movement that would spread Islamic fundamentalism in Central Asia and "de-stabilise" the Soviet Union.

These people are really off the deep end. Jimmy Carter wasn't smart enough to tie his own shoes. As one Freeper pointed out a long time ago-
"Jimmy Carter's mother has the two biggest Boobs in America-Jimmy and Billy".

16 posted on 11/06/2005 1:05:07 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Prime Choice
Here's the link to the thread if you want a laugh

Retarded DUmmie comments

17 posted on 11/06/2005 1:10:17 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Forte Runningrock

Man, that is funny.


18 posted on 11/06/2005 1:53:15 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: ncountylee
Years of racism and neglect explode in a week of riots across France's mostly Muslim immigrant ghettos.

Just like Newsweek. Blame government when people do something stupid and violent.

Maybe these riots are caused by a few months of inflammatory rhetoric spewed by a few Islamic fundamentalist rabble-rousers.

Call me a rightwing extremist if you like but if the French government is to be accused of neglect in these riots it is in neglecting to put a prompt end to them.

The first responsibility of the police is protecting life and property. Second is maintain peaceful order.

The French are failing miserably on both.

19 posted on 11/06/2005 1:54:35 AM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: ncountylee
for heroes of French culture: Boulevard Emile Zola, Allee Albert Camus, Rue Picasso. Dead white men.

"Dead white men"??? What does Dickey mean by this comment? Is he implying that the mooligans could not learn anything from the lives of these men?

Camus was born in Algiers, came from a poor background, fought tuberculosis his whole life, and didn't move to France until he was 25.

Camus's mother..., was an illiterate cleaning woman... from a family of Spanish origin. ...his father, was an itinerant agricultural laborer who died when Camus was 1 year old.
(http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/acamus.htm)
20 posted on 11/06/2005 1:55:14 AM PST by syriacus (Youthful angst of "Bowling for Columbine" + political passion of "Fahrenheit 9/11" = MOOLIGANs)
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