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After-Action Report: Doug from Upland confronts Susan Estrich LIVE in Claremont, CA
DFU | 11/01/2005 | self

Posted on 11/01/2005 8:26:59 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance

Doug just filed a brief After-Action report via cell phone, posted here on his behalf.

Self-described rape victim and attorney Susan Estrich came to Pomona College and gave a speech about the media. About 75 mostly Liberals were in attendance. From the back of the room, DFU asked the second question of the evening of Estrich-- specifically why she would avoid speaking with Clinton rape accuser Juanita Broaddrick. According to Doug, she said several words in reply and quickly changed the subject, calling on another audience member.

Is it possible that DFU was the ONLY person with a REAL question at a speech about the MEDIA, out of a crowd of 75?

Doug will join this thread as soon as he arrives back at his desk.



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KEYWORDS: aar; anotheryawn; clinton; corapist; enabler; estrich; hillary; juanita; leftistdeceit; leftistdeception; rapist
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1 posted on 11/01/2005 8:27:00 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: Blurblogger
She's the Queen of Denial...

If she met with Juanita, Suzie-babe would have to admit that which she's trying desperately to suppress: Clinton is indeed everything that she fears he is, and does not want to admit.
2 posted on 11/01/2005 8:29:40 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: doug from upland; RonDog; Mia T; CyberAnt; wagglebee; Calpernia; Alamo-Girl; Cindy; Baynative; ...

Bump and FYI Ping


3 posted on 11/01/2005 8:29:43 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

I admire Doug's courage and persistance.


4 posted on 11/01/2005 8:33:01 PM PST by del4hope (No child left behind=No child steps forward)
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To: Blurblogger
Hey Susan


5 posted on 11/01/2005 8:34:38 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: Blurblogger

Rock on DFU, Rock on!


6 posted on 11/01/2005 8:35:41 PM PST by Archytekt
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To: Keith in Iowa
"Suzie-babe would have to admit that which she's trying desperately to suppress"...that it never happened to her.
7 posted on 11/01/2005 8:36:44 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: zip

ping


8 posted on 11/01/2005 8:41:34 PM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: Keith in Iowa; Fruit of the Spirit; doug from upland; Liz

You'd think a compassionate female attorney who was genuinely a rape victim would act to thwart--and help prosecute--a predator. But she's a Liberal. While this thought seems harsh and I hope I'm wrong--maybe Susan actually feels she deserved the way she was treated--and that Juanita deserved the way SHE was treated.

Or maybe Susan is TERRIFIED of facing the truth about her 'hero' Bill.

By her cowardice and silence, she's enabling a monster to continue to roam. But, at least she's selling books.

I pray that her conscience drives her to the point where she must break her silence.



9 posted on 11/01/2005 8:42:23 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

>>>>Or maybe Susan is TERRIFIED of facing the truth about her 'hero' Bill.<<<<

There you have it...


10 posted on 11/01/2005 8:43:25 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: Keith in Iowa
If she met with Juanita, Suzie-babe would have to admit that which she's trying desperately to suppress: Clinton is indeed everything that she fears he is, and does not want to admit.

You hit the nail on the head.

11 posted on 11/01/2005 8:45:14 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Blurblogger; doug from upland
great work, Doug. This one issue, the clintons' 30-year history of abusing women, has the potential to bring down the clinton candidacy--fast. Hard to believe, but many clintonoids DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE CLINTONS' RAPE OF JUANITA BROADDRICK.

the clinton-clinton-Broaddrick kind of rape, according to Susan Estrich


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


ESTRICH IMPEACHED BY HER OWN WORDS,
EXPOSES STOCK HILLARY PLOY: EXPLOIT WOMEN
my amazon.com review


STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: ED KLEIN AND SUSAN ESTRICH AGREE ABOUT HILLARY


ESTRICH BOOK EXPOSES STOCK HILLARY PLOY: EXPLOIT WOMEN


OPEN LETTER TO SEAN HANNITY ON ESTRICH INTERVIEW, THE CLINTONS' RAPE OF BROADDRICK
(with additions, corrections, addendum)


CLINTONS' DOCUMENTED ABUSE OF WOMEN


hillary clinton is a "CONGENITAL LIAR"
("I am not a crook")


retrograde feminist fraud positions herself as victim (again) in order to win White House
[FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!]


NOTE THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN CLINTON REACTION TIME AND CONTENT TO THE TWO RAPE CHARGES


CATCHING THE CONSCIENCE OF THE KINGFISH
differential reaction to the two rape charges snares the clintons


HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue



12 posted on 11/01/2005 8:47:03 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Blurblogger

Good for Doug, he has my admiration.


13 posted on 11/01/2005 8:52:21 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Blurblogger

The last time Susan was on the Sean Hannity radio show he talked about how she got "stuck in Boston" without a car that some radio/tv station promised her.

Sean got her taken care of (I don't remember the details, I think she called him about going to be late to be on his show) by getting her a car. He then babbled on about how she was a rape victim (I think in Boston at that) and she was "freaking out" being on the street...maybe her car broke down...I don't remember. She felt "paralyzed" and didn't want to get out at night in public or something.

Anyway, I immediately thought about how liberals like her are so helpless. She was going to miss the show because she couldn't call a cab? Rent a car? Hire a limo? No, Sean had to take care of it.


14 posted on 11/01/2005 8:52:38 PM PST by Fledermaus (For years Rush has said the left would really go off the deep end once out of power. He was right!)
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To: Blurblogger
I pray that her conscience drives her to the point where she must break her silence.

Like all leftists, susan ostrich is a sub-human without any conscience whatsoever. The truth is what they wish it to be. She claims to have been raped. I doubt it.

15 posted on 11/01/2005 8:57:08 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Keith in Iowa; armymarinemom; decal; Blurblogger

REAL RAPE BY PROXY

And then we have the Susan Estrich proxy.

Susan Estrich is the Democrat political operative who put Dukakis in a tank and would put hillary in the White House. Amazon.com sales rank suggests another tank for Susan: Following her sales pitch on Hannity and Colmes the other night, her book, The Case for Hillary Clinton went from bad to worse, (It instantly sustained a 10% decline to #8517. As I type this, it is #12,244.)

Ms. Estrich also wrote Real Rape, a book about the clinton-clinton-Broaddrick kind of rape. But that was before she was tapped by the clinton machine to cover for... and revise the predatory history of... a couple of real rapists.

'Simple rape' is what the system calls this clinton kind of rape... Simple as opposed to aggravated. 'Simple rape,' a horrendous misnomer that only perpetuates the injustice. 'Real Rape' is what Ms. Estrich called it. But, as I said, that was before she was tapped by the clintons.

In the cases on which this book focuses, the man is not the armed stranger jumping from the bushes--nor yet the black man jumping the white woman, the case that was most likely to result in the death penalty prior to 1977, and the stereotype that may explain in part the seriousness with which a white male criminal justice system has addressed "stranger" rape. Instead the man is a neighbor, an acquaintance, or a date. The man and the woman are both white, or both black, or both Hispanic. He is a respected bachelor, a student, a businessman, or a professional. He may have been offered a ride home or invited in. He does not have a weapon. He acted alone. It is, in short, a simple rape.

Susan Estrich, Real Rape

In 'simple rape,' the system invariably revictimizes the victim and protects the rapist.

This horrible perversion of justice was the impetus for her book, so, of course, Ms Estrich knows exactly what is going on here between the clintons and Broaddrick. (To be expanded upon in future posts.)

Worse still, Ms. Estrich uses the horror of her own purported rape to obfuscate the casuistry and rapelies required to spin yet another rapist presidency. Estrich is contemptible.

This is the usual clinton rube arrogance rooted in stupidity (of which this interview tonight is but another example).

The clintons figured that Estrich in their corner would make clinton serial rape and predation just disappear, not understanding that her presence would only intensify the scrutiny and that her 'expertise' and prior utterances would be used against them... and her.

Indeed, by twisting her own scholarship, Estrich indicts the clintons just as surely as the twisting double helix on that blue Gap dress.

Estrich's reaction to Juanita Broaddrick is the typical opportunistic, dishonest feminist reaction. (See article, Salon.com.)

While most, if not all of the women who contributed to the salon.com piece believed Juanita, (liberals as well as conservatives), some feminists were in denial; they conveniently relied on false premises to assuage the cognitive dissonance.

One recurring false premise (a premise that Estrich relies on): although Juanita was credible, clinton couldn't be a rapist because he never raped before (or since).

Notwithstanding the fact that not all rapists are serial rapists, did they never hear of Eileen Wellstone et al?

Shame on them.

 

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness.

Richard Poe
The Hillary Conspiracy


HANNITY'S ESTRICH INTERVIEW: THE CLINTONS' RAPE OF BROADDRICK

While Sean Hannity correctly zeroed in on the clinton rape of Juanita Broaddrick, one of the issues that should automatically disqualify missus clinton for any position of power, he sabotaged his own line of attack.

Hannity's setup question, whether hillary 'believed' bill, was a dodge. And a not very artful one, at that. As Sean Hannity knows well, the issue isn't whether hillary 'believed' bill; the issue is whether hillary participated. In that rape as well as in all the other clinton rapes and predations.

Hannity of all people should know this. He interviewed Broaddrick on precisely that point. (A video and analysis of that interview to follow.) Broaddrick described to him in shocking detail the meeting with hillary clinton that occurred several weeks after the rape. missus clinton went to that meeting for the express purpose of warning Broaddrick to keep her mouth shut. (She and the rapist entered the room, she approached Broaddrick (whom she had never met before) while a slinking rapist stayed behind, she proceeded to warn Broaddrick, she and the rapist immediately left.)

In Hannity's original Estrich-Broaddrick interview, he was honest about the real issue. But even then he ultimately failed because he neglected to expose the following clinton casuistry being spun by Estrich:

  1. the 'statute of limitation' on rape should apply to the clintons in the Broaddrick rape,
  2. the postmodern construction of 'rape,' i.e., the definition of rape is subjective, i.e., what is considered rape by the victim isn't necessarily considered rape by the rapist,
  3. the definition of rape has morphed over time, i.e., what is rape today wasn't necessarily rape in the '70s.

 

On point 1, the statute of limitation on rape applies in a court of law, not in the voting booth. The question we are deciding isn't whether the clintons should be thrown in the slammer (another matter for another day); the question is less onerous, (from the clintons' perspective, anyway): Do the clintons have the character to be president?

The reductio ad absurdum is Christopher Shays' comment, made after he viewed the Ford building evidence on the rape of Broaddrick: "I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say it that way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

And yet Shays voted not to impeach. Purportedly because he asked the wrong question. ("Where was the obstruction of justice?") (Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton gave to Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...)

And so we had two more years of the clinton Nano-Presidency. And with it, inexorably, 9/11.

Regarding points two and three: Juanita's bitten lip, swollen to twice its normal size, the hallmark of a serial rapist, is the obvious counterexample.

This book should be required reading... for Susan Estrich.

 

ADDENDUM:

Ignoring the facts of the case, ignoring the 'real rape' paradigm, indeed, ignoring her own writings on 'real rape,' Susan Estrich, on Hannity and Colmes, pimping for yet another rapist presidency, dismissed out of hand Juanita Broaddrick's credible charge, that she was raped by the clintons.

In response, Juanita Broaddrick has offered to meet with Susan Estrich to discuss the matter. Estrich turned her down flat. (SUSAN ESTRICH RESPONDS TO JUANITA BROADDRICK'S OFFER TO SPEAK ABOUT HER RAPE -- "not interested")



SPECIAL NOTE ON THE O'REILLY'S ESTRICH INTERVIEW

Susan Estrich is not nearly as dumb as she appeared in this interview. She was tentative by design. (Hers.) I will post a separate analysis of the interview.

For now, note the following:

  1. When O'Reilly questioned her pointedly, Estrich was loath to express her support for hillary clinton openly and directly.
  2. Estrich again inadvertently reveals both missus clinton's stealth scheme and her vulnerability. (I will explain in future posts.)


Mia T, 10.27.05
THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)

COMPLETE ARTICLE

 

16 posted on 11/01/2005 8:59:45 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

#12 BUMP!

Blessings -- Brian


17 posted on 11/01/2005 9:01:37 PM PST by Brian Allen (Patriotic [Immigrant] AMERICAN-American by choice - Christian and Aviator by Grace)
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To: Blurblogger
"I'd be happy to give him [oral sex] just to thank him for keeping abortion legal," boasted former Time magazine White House correspondent Nina Burleigh about Bill Clinton. She made her offer known to Washington Post media reporter Howard Kurtz when he called to discuss a piece Burleigh penned in the July/August Mirabella magazine detailing her lust for Clinton.

Susan Estrich is Nina Burleigh with a law degree.

18 posted on 11/01/2005 9:02:15 PM PST by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: Blurblogger

How did you find such a flattering photo of her? Are you sure it's not photoshopped? She's uglier than that.


19 posted on 11/01/2005 9:07:26 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Blurblogger


Didn't you go with him?


20 posted on 11/01/2005 9:11:55 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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