Taking Aim on the Abortion Arguement by REV.KIRBY

Our actions as a nation since Roe versus Wade have been to kill over “46 million babies.” The contents of this article suggest that we take a good hard look at the facts as laid out herein. Then we need to be honest in determining if we have put our own convenience over and above the value of human life by aborting unwanted pregnancies. (Westfall 2005) 4

The intention of this article is neither to condemn women who have had an abortion, nor to suggest violence toward those who participate in the operation of abortion clinics. The intention of this article is to “speak the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:13). This does not mean to imply warm fuzzy feelings, but rather that we face the facts for the common good. Jesus said in John 8:31-32, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." We all know the truth hurts. However, the God of the Bible is merciful and loving and wants to heal and restore those who suffer from the aftereffects of abortion. In addition, God can and wants to restore our damaged consciences, and bring order to the legal chaos we have been swept into. All this He will do, if we will let him. However a prerequisite for God’s forgiveness is an admission of our own guilt.

I hope that Americans will hear the truth on this issue, so they may choose what is right and turn from wrong. I pray that this great nation founded upon biblical principles, would return to those principles from which we have strayed so far.

It seems obvious to me that 90 - 95% of abortions in America are unnecessary and probably should not be happening, and that we have an abortion industry in the country whose interests are, to say the least, not compatible with the idea of the nation succeeding in life.

Nonetheless there are at least three overriding concerns which force me to believe that the right needs to re-examine its basic position on the issue. Not that republicans need to start favoring abortions, but that the quest for draconian laws needs to be abandoned, and the time, effort, and money put into persuasion rather than attempts at coercion.

One of the three concerns I have is that the other 5% of abortions include cases so compelling that a draconian law would be totally out of place dealing with them. Aside from cases of rape and incest and the like, there are cases like that of a friend of my brothers. The friend and his wife had one child die of cyctic fibrosis at age six and then tests showed a second pregnancy would produce another child with CF. They opted for abortion in that case and finally a third pregnancy produced a normal child who is now nine years old and leading a normal life. A draconian law would accomplish nothing but evil in such cases.

My second concern is that draconian laws in general have a bad history. They include prohibition, the failed "war on drugs", the 55 mph speed limit on highways which was finally shown to put lives in danger, the insane "zero tolerance" laws in schools and all the grief they cause, school bussing laws, and any number of others. To my knowledge, nothing good has ever come of any such law.

The third and most major concern I have is the democrat party. One of our two parties has gone totally rogue in recent years to so great an extent that having them win another presidential election would be, at this point, a non-recoverable disaster. In my estimation the nation has been on the edge of civil war for the last decade. You couldn't just hand the country over to them even if they won an election; that would be just like handing the keys to the assylum straight over to the lunatics. The best we could have done had Kerry won that last election would have been to split the country up.

The abortion issue is the ONLY meaningful issue which dems come anywhere remotely close to being on the right side of. Only that one issue has kept the democrat party alive for the last 30 years. Their NEA and inner city and envirowhack constituencies are not enough to keep a major political party rolling. Women, on the other hand, are 51% of all voters, everywhere on earth. For a political party to be saying anything like "Hey, we want to pass some sort of a law depriving 51% of the voters of legal control over their own bodies" would give the opposition a chance even if the opposition was the biggest bunch of losers on earth.

Like I say, none of this means that I see abortion as a good idea or that there's any reason why the vast bulk of abortions ought to be happening; just that the quest for draconian laws should be abandoned.

However, a clear line of reasoning can be determined between the medical community and the Bible, and the law.

True enough but if you really want to get back to this country's history as far as the bible read up on the Comstock law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comstock_Law

So it is amazing that many bible based people conveniently ignore the bible's advice against contraception.

In Gen 38:9-10; Onan killed by God for spilling his seed on the ground.

Hos 9: 10-17 Israel punished by God with childlessness

Dt 7:13-14 you will be blessed no male or female barreness

Ex 23:25-26 blessings promised: no miscarrying barreness etc

Just making a point. Not necessarily my point.

>If you return the issue to the states I doubt that any would impose draconian laws.

I'd agree to that and in an ideal world I'd just as soon get rid of Roe/Wade since it's basically bad law and bad precedent. Nonetheless in the real world the tactics and conduct of right2lifers has been such that most people wouldn't trust anybody's motives in wanting to get rid of it.

I'd just as soon put the thing up to a plebescite vote and let the people settle the issue once and for all. If I had to bet it I'd bet that they'd vote to keep Roe/Wade. But, one way or another, a straight up vote to settle the issue would get the issue out of national politics and the demokkkrat party would die inside of two years. THAT would be cause for a mammoth celebration.

As I noted you're basically telling 51% of the human population that they shouldn't be entitled to legal control over their own bodies.

Hopefully, you understand that much less than 51 percent of the human poplulation can get pregnant.

But no. What I'm saying is that people should not be allowed to kill innocent people with premeditation.

Do you believe a fetus is a separate life? Another human being? I assume you don't. How would you feel about abortion if you did? Do you understand the pro-life arguments about the personhood of an unborn baby? Why do you reject them?

Further, nobody really has full "legal control" over their own bodies. You can't sell your organs. You can't sell yourself for sex. You can't take drugs. Young men can constitutionally be subjected to the draft and placed in combat against their will. So that claim that someone if violating some moral principle if one advocates legislation that would restrict what one can do with one's body is pretty much a non-issue.

My take is that republicans have been winning lately despite that issue and not because of it.

The polling data I recall show that far, far more people vote pro-life as a single issue than pro-choice, and that the majority of voters don't have real strong views on the subject and where they say they stand on it depends on how the question is framed.

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