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To: carolgr
It seems obvious to me that 90 - 95% of abortions in America are unnecessary and probably should not be happening, and that we have an abortion industry in the country whose interests are, to say the least, not compatible with the idea of the nation succeeding in life.

Nonetheless there are at least three overriding concerns which force me to believe that the right needs to re-examine its basic position on the issue. Not that republicans need to start favoring abortions, but that the quest for draconian laws needs to be abandoned, and the time, effort, and money put into persuasion rather than attempts at coercion.

One of the three concerns I have is that the other 5% of abortions include cases so compelling that a draconian law would be totally out of place dealing with them. Aside from cases of rape and incest and the like, there are cases like that of a friend of my brothers. The friend and his wife had one child die of cyctic fibrosis at age six and then tests showed a second pregnancy would produce another child with CF. They opted for abortion in that case and finally a third pregnancy produced a normal child who is now nine years old and leading a normal life. A draconian law would accomplish nothing but evil in such cases.

My second concern is that draconian laws in general have a bad history. They include prohibition, the failed "war on drugs", the 55 mph speed limit on highways which was finally shown to put lives in danger, the insane "zero tolerance" laws in schools and all the grief they cause, school bussing laws, and any number of others. To my knowledge, nothing good has ever come of any such law.

The third and most major concern I have is the democrat party. One of our two parties has gone totally rogue in recent years to so great an extent that having them win another presidential election would be, at this point, a non-recoverable disaster. In my estimation the nation has been on the edge of civil war for the last decade. You couldn't just hand the country over to them even if they won an election; that would be just like handing the keys to the assylum straight over to the lunatics. The best we could have done had Kerry won that last election would have been to split the country up.

The abortion issue is the ONLY meaningful issue which dems come anywhere remotely close to being on the right side of. Only that one issue has kept the democrat party alive for the last 30 years. Their NEA and inner city and envirowhack constituencies are not enough to keep a major political party rolling. Women, on the other hand, are 51% of all voters, everywhere on earth. For a political party to be saying anything like "Hey, we want to pass some sort of a law depriving 51% of the voters of legal control over their own bodies" would give the opposition a chance even if the opposition was the biggest bunch of losers on earth.

Like I say, none of this means that I see abortion as a good idea or that there's any reason why the vast bulk of abortions ought to be happening; just that the quest for draconian laws should be abandoned.

3 posted on 11/01/2005 4:14:12 AM PST by anthraciterabbit
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To: anthraciterabbit

Amen.

Draconian laws would not stop one single abortion, anyone who wants one will just go where they are available. Quite possibly draconian laws could put the dims in power to enact total abortion freedom.

Persuasion is the ONLY way to lessen abortion.


6 posted on 11/01/2005 4:50:56 AM PST by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: anthraciterabbit
Not that republicans need to start favoring abortions, but that the quest for draconian laws needs to be abandoned,

If you return the issue to the states I doubt that any would impose draconian laws.

Of the women and girls I've known who had abortions, I wouldn't turn any of them into criminals. The abortionists yes. The boyfriends, I wish. But none of these girls really wanted the abortion.

7 posted on 11/01/2005 6:06:33 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: anthraciterabbit

Dems are not anywhere NEAR the right side of this issue...You're bordering on troll here.


12 posted on 11/01/2005 4:57:40 PM PST by bushinohio
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