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Howard Fineman: Rove Non-Indictment a Bush 'Victory'
NewsMax ^ | October 28, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 10/28/2005 12:22:42 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: Minus_The_Bear

"It's not over yet. He'll charge Rove before he's through."

I agree. If Karl Rove spits his gum out on to the ground at the White House, he'll have him charged for defacing government property.


21 posted on 10/28/2005 12:48:18 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Cboldt

Not really. The indictment pretty much spells it out.

He said/ he said. If they are gonna indict Libby...they need to indict Russert and Cooper.


22 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:20 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: The South Texan

Can Libby plead out and end this? It would stop a whole lot of extra info that Fitz. is hoping to find in the trial. Could Bush then pardon?


23 posted on 10/28/2005 12:53:08 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: Soul Seeker

Tomorrow GWB should nominate someone like Brown or Owens to the SCOTUS (read, someone who is ultra-conservative and who *will* overturn Roe v. Wade). If that's not sticking it to the Libs, I don't know what is ("no Libbygasm for you!")


24 posted on 10/28/2005 12:54:57 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: frogjerk

Dont count your chickens.

During the press conference Fitzgerald refused to answer whether the Grand Jury refused to go along with other charges against other people.

To me, that meant THIS grand jury felt Rove was not guilty of anything.

It also means that Fitzgerald, the a-hole that he is, will continue to go after Rove with another grand jury.


25 posted on 10/28/2005 12:55:03 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: West Coast Conservative

Just go away, Howard.


26 posted on 10/28/2005 12:56:09 PM PDT by lawnguy (It works Napoleon, you don't even know.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I know that there are those in this forum who think that the sun rises on Patrick Fitzgerald, but there were a couple of things about his press conference I found troubling. First of all, he clearly revealed that he had been following press accounts of the grand jury proceedings and the actions by his office ("one day I'm a Republican stooge, the next day I'm a partisan Democrat"), something one would not expect from someone the MSM describes as "apolitical...straight arrow". Certainly if we take him at his word, he's not the "Republican" MSM and other sources have said he is.

Secondly, it is obvious that he has been stung by the criticism by both Republicans and by MSM organs like the Washington Post, that he is being over-zealous in chasing after Libby (and possibly others) for matters other than the crime mentioned in the original referral. His attempted baseball analogy was as lame as it was obtuse. He might have done better to mention the fact that Al Capone was finally brought down for tax evasion, not for the murder, extortion or bootlegging that were his most serious crimes. Even a better analogy, however, cannot obscure the fact that Fitzgerald knows that given the history of leaking in Washington, he could have cut Libby a break, and that his decision to prosecute him was more related to enhancing the Fitzgerald image than in punishing the "damage" done by Libby's alleged crimes.

27 posted on 10/28/2005 12:56:52 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: riri
I heard Al Frankenstein say today he just signed a two year lease in Washington. I didn't listen beyond that, my blood pressure was so high.

They were saying it was starting to feel a lot like Christmas.

Well, the SP said that the "leak investigation is not over" and that he "will be keeping the grand jury open to consider other matters".

This guy is a monster that isn't going to stop. Damn, not good.

28 posted on 10/28/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by podkane
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To: ArmyBratproud
He said/ he said. If they are gonna indict Libby...they need to indict Russert and Cooper.

How do you figure that? Did Russert lie to the GJ? Did Cooper lie to the GJ?

29 posted on 10/28/2005 1:00:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: podkane

Pfft. Rove didn't break the law, or they would have indicted him today. This isn't about getting convictins. It's the Socialists' old game of "the seriousness of the charge" to smear someone. They can't touch Rove, but they'll try to keep the story alive as long as they can, even up to next year's election if at all possible.

The best thing to do is get them off the news cycle by slamming them with a SCOTUS appointment that will give them fits.


30 posted on 10/28/2005 1:00:31 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
He'll charge Rove before he's through

No, becase Rove was SMART ENOUGH to tell the truth. Let's face it, Libby is not the smartest tool in the shed if he lied as he did. I feel bad for him but he bought it on his own head.

31 posted on 10/28/2005 1:02:00 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Agree. Libby didn't break the law, right up until he lied (aleggedly) to try to protect either himself or his superiors (from what is anyone's guess, but perhaps from the smear that the leftist media would all but certainly attempt to perpetrate on them). If he lied, then he was as dum as Martha Stewart, and the thing to do is cut him loose for now and pardon him on January 19, 2009.


32 posted on 10/28/2005 1:04:23 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Let's hope that the big fish (Rove) and his bigger fish buddy (Bush) learn something from this, like don't try to be the bigger fish and make friends with the snakes (democrats) and don't let your arses hanging in the breeze by taking their buddies in the press lightly!

I have to say it; "God, I think this President is totally naive about the people he is dealing with". I sincerely hope he wakes up and smells the coffee before some real bad $hit happens to him by trying to "reach across the isle".


33 posted on 10/28/2005 1:05:00 PM PDT by Herakles
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To: AmericaUnited

Three words on the way to handle the "leakgate" media smear campaign.

Janis Rogers Brown


34 posted on 10/28/2005 1:05:38 PM PDT by inpajamas
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To: Cboldt
Not a whole lot. Russert disagrees with some of the content of his conversation with Libby. Cooper also disagrees with some of the content of his separate conversation with Libby.

What deep point am I missing beyond that?

35 posted on 10/28/2005 1:06:04 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

And the MSM big bad wolf huffed and puffed (loudly I might add) but couldn't blow down the brick house. I think this event adds to the common perception that the press is full of itself, loves to hear its own voices, and is particularly biased against this President.


36 posted on 10/28/2005 1:07:51 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: inpajamas

If you nominate her or someone like her you put the Leftists in an impossible position. They have the choice of either letting her get on the court without much of a fight (which pretty much sacrifices Roe v. Wade in the process, as well as many other things) to keep the leak scandal alive, or they fight her confirmation and throw this issue away.


37 posted on 10/28/2005 1:10:47 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: dead
What deep point am I missing beyond that?

That Libby lied to the GJ. What he told Russert is irrelevant - he could come into the GJ and say "I lied to Russert," and he'd be fine.

But several reporters say they learned of Plame from Libby - Libby says he learened of Plame from reporters, and independent notes indicate that Libby knew of Plame before he talked to reporters.

38 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AmericaUnited
I feel bad for him but he bought it on his own head.

Check out his relationship with Mark Richards

I don't feel sorry for him BUT I do cringe at this miscarriage of the intent of the law

Media would have cruciufied FITZ if he came up with nothing so he threw them a bone when he should have indicted Wilson
39 posted on 10/28/2005 1:13:51 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Herakles
"I have to say it; 'God, I think this President is totally naive about the people he is dealing with". I sincerely hope he wakes up and smells the coffee before some real bad $hit happens to him by trying to "reach across the isle'."

There are times when I wonder if GWB understands that there are *two* wars going on here, the War on Terror and the War on Marxism. The majority of the press is on the other side of the latter one and many of their leftist buddies are deciding to take the other side on the first one, too ("enemy of my enemy" and all that). He needs to understand that we need to fight both wars with equal vigor.
40 posted on 10/28/2005 1:15:10 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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