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1 posted on 10/28/2005 8:59:06 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Leahy solidified his position as one of the most vile Senators.


2 posted on 10/28/2005 9:01:47 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Rats are desperately trying to relive the early 70s. ....specifically Watergate and the withdrawal from Vietnam.


4 posted on 10/28/2005 9:05:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: West Coast Conservative

I have a lower opinion of the average American then the writer of this article. Not because I think they want to turn over Iraq to al-Qaeda and Iran. But, because they haven't been given any info by the media about who we are fighting or why. The public really doesn't understand what is going on in Iraq thanks to the media.


5 posted on 10/28/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by jmc1969
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"The 1974 congressional elections were a blow-out victory for Democrats. Watergate was a big factor, but public exhaustion with Vietnam (encouraged by the media) helped too. In 1973, the last U.S. combat troops left Vietnam, but Washington had promised to support South Vietnam with money and weapons."

Someone from the Administration finally figured out that the RATS are using the Vietnam/Watergate playbook for the Plame non event and Iraq.




8 posted on 10/28/2005 9:07:29 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: West Coast Conservative


Wow...this piece of writing has an affiliation with the LAT. Will wonders never cease?


10 posted on 10/28/2005 9:10:35 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'm not sure whether this is meant to be a token conservative article in the LAT, or whether it's a sign that they finally understand that their ideological agenda has been committing them to slow suicide and are starting to change course.

Probably it's just a token. But it's pretty darned strong for a token. It raises a lot of ideas that many liberals have spent a lifetime avoiding thinking about.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 9:13:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The democrats are demanding America surrender to the enemy - again. They've learned nothing from WWII or JFK's Vietnam.
13 posted on 10/28/2005 9:15:59 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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Be warned, senator: If Democrats become the "let's treat Iraq as we treated Vietnam" party, the public will turn away in revulsion...

TOO LATE.

14 posted on 10/28/2005 9:16:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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"Otherwise, Leahy said, he will urge the Senate to choke off the war by refusing to fund it."

It is unbelievable that a U.S. Senator with any education and sense of history would say such a thing. To make it sound like such a course of action is not only acceptable but something he would promote is traitorous to the men and women who have born the burden.

If such a thing were to happen it would lead to unbelievable consequences. Doing such a thing could cause a real mutiny in the armed forces and there would be no one in the military to call on to put it down... It really could be the start of a dictatorship that ends this country as we know it... It is really that serious. Leahy has no idea what he is saying.
16 posted on 10/28/2005 9:19:45 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: West Coast Conservative

I remember Vietnam very well, and that era was different from what is going on today. There was a draft, and it appeared to reasonable people that poorer young men were fighting the war while middle class college kids could buy their way out with deferments. And the war was "over there", there was nothing to connect it with America's security. Our boys did the fighting and the South Vietnamese sat on the sidelines. Different war, different time, different mindset in the country.


18 posted on 10/28/2005 9:23:21 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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Leahy announced that the president must lay out a public formula to tell the world just when U.S. troops will leave Iraq

The stupidity of this man is astonishing.

20 posted on 10/28/2005 9:31:56 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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How did this end up in LA Times? Is Gelernter a hacker?
Spectacular reading!


27 posted on 10/28/2005 9:49:49 AM PDT by EyeSpyHi (Really Commissioner Selig, I thought it was a healing balm....)
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Not only are Leahy's comments sheer, arrogant treason and demagoguery, they are flat out lies. We could win the insurgency with no problem except for the conditions that the leftists impose. If they would stop demanding protection for the terrorists and would allow the US to conduct a "scorched earth" policy in selected areas, the "insurgency" wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, there's probably a "rare" bug, fly or vermin in Iraq (aside from terrorists) that the leftists want protected.


30 posted on 10/28/2005 10:40:23 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Great article ping...


33 posted on 10/28/2005 10:57:25 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: West Coast Conservative; Grampa Dave; wagglebee
MANY OBSERVERS have noticed that Democrats of the left speak of Iraq as another Vietnam. Few have explained why: Because Democrats of the left want Iraq to be another Vietnam. Not that they took pleasure in Vietnamese suffering, but they rejoiced in the left-wing power surge that transformed the United States in the aftermath. Naturally, they hope to repeat that experience: to humiliate Republicans, moderate Democrats and the military by pinning the label "bloody failure" on another foreign war.

Astounding coming from the Leftists mouthpiece on the Leftist Coast.....

The first major sign that the control of the Left has been weakened out here....The referendum vote on Nov 8th could deliver another blow to their control....

39 posted on 10/28/2005 11:17:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Howlin

This is a great piece..


66 posted on 10/28/2005 4:06:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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Americans won't let Democrats lose Iraq

Nice title...sounds like Americans are finally realizing that today's
DieHard Democratics are not really Americans...

Seems like the last Democrats that were recognizable as Americans were
Scoop Jackson or Charlie Wilson (of Texas)
67 posted on 10/28/2005 4:11:26 PM PDT by VOA
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To: West Coast Conservative

The only similarity between Vietnam and Iraq is the Media's wish for us to lose, both then and now.


69 posted on 10/28/2005 4:22:27 PM PDT by Hildy ( liberals cannot change the present, and cannot effect the future, so they MUST relive the past...)
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To: West Coast Conservative; Berosus; blam; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham; ..

to reiterate -- Term limits.


71 posted on 10/28/2005 11:48:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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***.......When Democrat Jimmy Carter was elected in 1976, he had large congressional majorities to work with. Carter described the Vietnam War as "moral poverty" in action. One of his first acts was to pardon all draft evaders — at a time when families were still mourning soldiers dead in battle.

Carter preached anti-anti-communism: As the U.S. military deteriorated for lack of funds and confidence, and Cuban troops with Soviet advisors moved into Angola and Ethiopia, Carter's secretary of State announced that "to oppose Soviet or Cuban involvement in Africa would be futile." This was foreign policy as the left liked it.....***


72 posted on 10/29/2005 2:01:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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