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The Failed War On Pot Users
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/20/2005 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 10/20/2005 7:51:19 AM PDT by cryptical

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To: Moonman62
It's one big whine that should be accompanied by violin music, full of the same slogans that can be read on any one of the thousands of pot threads on FR.

Nobody forced you to click on the thread, Moonbat.

Or do you enjoy hearing yourself pontificating over the rest of us sheeple who need gov't to hold our hands?

41 posted on 10/20/2005 9:16:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Triggerhippie
The law is the law. Should we legalize jay-walking to keep otherwise-law-abiding citizens from wrongdoing? Should we legalize tax evasion to keep otherwise-law-abiding citizens from wrongdoing? Should we legalize murder for the same reason?

Strawman arguments....

42 posted on 10/20/2005 9:17:39 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: april15Bendovr
Even the most derelict scientists that advocate for the use of marijuana understand that marijuana's THC level is higher now than in the past.

But why is that? Couldn't be because of prohibition, can it?

Nah....

43 posted on 10/20/2005 9:18:41 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Triggerhippie
The law is the law. Should we legalize jay-walking to keep otherwise-law-abiding citizens from wrongdoing? Should we legalize tax evasion to keep otherwise-law-abiding citizens from wrongdoing? Should we legalize murder for the same reason?

Barf Alert!

44 posted on 10/20/2005 9:19:15 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: Ecliptic
Do you want your kid's teachers high every day? Do you want lots of people roaming around our highways high?

Honestly, do you think those who never done marijuana before would all of a sudden use it if it became legal?

45 posted on 10/20/2005 9:21:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That is a retarded argument.

You and I know that if the government legalized pot they would put a filter on the cigarette and lower the THC lever well beyond the tolerance level that most pot heads need for their high in todays world.

46 posted on 10/20/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
All you have to do is a little research on these web sites to find out. NIDA, DEA, Hazelden, Marijuana Anonymous and the The White House web site.

Those websites are about as objective as CNN.com.

47 posted on 10/20/2005 9:22:45 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Ecliptic

"It's not about keeping someone from getting high..that deflects from the real reasons: some of those are--drug users steal your stuff, attack you and make your free enjoyment of life difficult; do you want the chief of police high every day? Do you want your kid's teachers high every day? Do you want lots of people roaming around our highways high?"

What a load of crap. If someone wanted to grow a little weed to smoke instead of having evening cocktails, why is this going to make them steal form someone. If the chief of police wants to have a couple tokes after work, that's OK with me. Do you really think that everyone who drinks alcohol goes to work wasted every day?


48 posted on 10/20/2005 9:23:35 AM PDT by PA28 Pilot
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To: april15Bendovr
Even the most derelict scientists that advocate for the use of marijuana understand that marijuana's THC level is higher now than in the past. What we considered short term side effects are now looked at as long term side effects.

All you have to do is a little research on these web sites to find out. NIDA, DEA, Hazelden, Marijuana Anonymous and the The White House web site.

Something tells me you may not want the truth because its not fitting to your agenda. I hope I am wrong.

 

Granted they have been able to make weed "stronger" than it used to be. But, that weed is not what most are smoking. Most people get the cheap weed from Mexico that is no stronger than it used to be.

49 posted on 10/20/2005 9:24:55 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Triggerhippie
Strawman arguments....

You are being kind, indeed, with this poster's hysterical bullsh*t.

50 posted on 10/20/2005 9:25:11 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: cryptical
From High School:

Pot is Evil

Evil is Sin

Sin is Forgiven

So Pot is In!

51 posted on 10/20/2005 9:26:02 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: april15Bendovr

Yeah, that Humboldt County sh-t is da bomb man! Quit Bogarting the nachos Cheech...


52 posted on 10/20/2005 9:27:05 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: april15Bendovr

I would suggest that you stay away from government websites for accurate information about Marijuana, and look for more reputable and unbiased sources, such as erowid.com, which is a fantastic site to find information on psychoactive substances.

Websites such as the DEAs is mostly filled with half truths and skewed information intended on providing strong justification for their current operations.

Indeed Marijuana is stronger today due to extensive strain selection and breeding techniques. I havent seen any conclusive data that shows that increased potency leads to increased side effects but would like to see a study done if there hasnt been one already.


53 posted on 10/20/2005 9:28:00 AM PDT by boulderite20
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Honestly, do you think those who never done marijuana before would all of a sudden use it if it became legal?

And conversely, has marijuana being illegal kept many people who wanted to try it from trying it?

54 posted on 10/20/2005 9:28:52 AM PDT by cryptical
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To: april15Bendovr
That is a retarded argument.

You and I know that if the government legalized pot they would put a filter on the cigarette and lower the THC lever well beyond the tolerance level that most pot heads need for their high in todays world.

They would just grow their own. That's why it's illegal, no money in it for the gov't. But we can obviously see how much the gov't makes keeping it illegal.

55 posted on 10/20/2005 9:32:30 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: april15Bendovr
Even the most derelict scientists that advocate for the use of marijuana understand that marijuana's THC level is higher now than in the past.

And the result is that a user smokes less to get the same effect. It's a means to an end, the end being to get high. If you can do it on one or two puffs vs. sucking down an entire joint, that's what you do.

56 posted on 10/20/2005 9:35:23 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: april15Bendovr
THC levels in marijuana has actually remained constant. What's making weed stronger is additives from other drugs such as cocaine or PCP.

This is what making it illegal has wrought. Legalize weed and it'll be pure as the driven snow. Pass the Doritos.

57 posted on 10/20/2005 9:36:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: cryptical
If we just doubled the arrests and doubled the tax dollars spent, we can make a dent in the drug trade. Just because it's never worked before doesn't mean it won't work now

Did you forget the /sarcasm at the end of that?

I hope!

58 posted on 10/20/2005 9:37:39 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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To: Ecliptic
Let's see how your post looks this way.

It's not about keeping someone from getting drunk..that deflects from the real reasons: some of those are--alcohol users steal your stuff, attack you and make your free enjoyment of life difficult; do you want the chief of police drunk every day? Do you want your kid's teachers drunk every day? Do you want lots of people roaming around our highways drunk?

Even if you make it legal, people would still steal to pay for it, and not just do it at home on thier on time..

"Man, I can drive this forklift between drinks!!! Besides, it's legal, man!!" or "Now today , children, we will study colors..do any of you see the colors in this white wall?? Yes, Johnny, you see them, are you using Jack Daniels or Canadian whiskey???"

YEs more kids would be using alcohol if their parents are and it is legal..

59 posted on 10/20/2005 9:43:15 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: bassmaner
The greatest danger any American faces from marijuana is getting ARRESTED and possibly JAILED.

The statistic cited in the article (700,000+ arrests; the large majority of them being for possession, not dealing) is proof-positive.

So what does that mean? Are those people addicted, incredibly stupid, or possibly both?

60 posted on 10/20/2005 9:44:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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