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Philadelphia Tells Muslim Police to Trim Beards or Lose Jobs (Islam does not require beards)
Dhimmi Watch ^ | 10-19-05 | Sophia Pearson

Posted on 10/19/2005 6:11:35 PM PDT by Piledriver

Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Philadelphia police officer Kenneth Wallace, a nine-year veteran of the force, is serving his second month-long suspension for refusing to shave.

Wallace, a 31-year-old Muslim, has asked for an arbitration hearing to challenge the department's 1/4-inch limit on the length of beards. Muslim city workers sued Philadelphia, the fifth-largest U.S. city, beginning in February to challenge grooming and dress codes they claim violate their rights to religious expression....

Muslim emergency workers have challenged grooming policies in cities including New York, Washington, D.C., and Detroit, saying the Koran and other religious teachings require the wearing of untrimmed beards or head coverings.

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson, who Islamic groups say is the only Muslim running a U.S. police department, softened decades-old rules in August 2003 to allow some beards. He has refused to budge on a requirement that whiskers be no more than a 1/4-inch long and neatly trimmed, said Corporal Jim Pauley, a department spokesman....

Two months earlier, Johnson told the paper that the police department was a ``paramilitary organization'' requiring neatness and uniformity. Johnson declined to be interviewed for this story. Pauley said the department doesn't keep track of the religious beliefs of the 6,400-member force....

Discrimination complaints from Muslim Americans rose 70 percent to 1,019 in 2003, the latest year available, with 234 in the workplace, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said last year. Complaints picked up after the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackings of four jetliners by 20 Muslim terrorists....

Women on the Philadelphia force are still barred from wearing the scarf known as khimar or hijab, which many Muslims believe is mandated by Allah to show their modesty. Kimberlie Webb, the 43-year-old Philadelphia police officer represented by Thorpe, is suing for the right to wear the khimar.

Webb became a Sunni Muslim two years after joining the Philadelphia force in 1995, according to her federal lawsuit. The department denied her requests to wear the khimar, made in 1998 and again in 2003, and threatened Webb with disciplinary action unless she removed the covering at work, the suit said....

Department officials said the scarf posed a safety risk because it could be grabbed by a suspect. Newspapers and Muslim Web sites reported on Webb's complaints through 2003. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled in her favor that November and urged the department to relax its rules....

Philadelphia fire officials, too, cite safety to justify their department's ban on beards. Curtis DeVeaux, a firefighter who was suspended without pay in February for refusing to shave, plans to appeal a Pennsylvania judge's decision last month to uphold the rule....

Fire officials argued that DeVeaux's beard might disrupt the seal on his respirator. DeVeaux, 25, said he converted to Islam in 2000 and shaved to join the department the following year. He sought an exemption from the rule last year after speaking to firefighters in Washington who wore beards and were using the same equipment.

``It's the practice of Muslim men to grow their beards,'' said DeVeaux, who now installs satellite-television dishes for a living. ``I love the job, but I have to adhere to the rules of my beliefs.''


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beards; dhimmi; islam; muslims; philadelphia

1 posted on 10/19/2005 6:11:40 PM PDT by Piledriver
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To: Piledriver
Accommodate me! Change your rules for me!

STOP THE DESCENT INTO DHIMMITUDE!!!!!!!!

2 posted on 10/19/2005 6:17:18 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Piledriver

Paging the ACLU........


3 posted on 10/19/2005 6:17:42 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Enjoy Every Sandwich)
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To: Piledriver

Shut up and cut your beards!


4 posted on 10/19/2005 6:24:55 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Piledriver

I can't stand western Muslims. I especially dislike black women who wear the full burka. Barf. They have no idea what they're getting into.


5 posted on 10/19/2005 6:28:32 PM PDT by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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To: Rummyfan

OK, my online AHS dictionary doesn't define "Dhimmitude", so please give me a definition or different spelling.

I almost know the word and spelling and definition, but like one of things almost on the tip of your tongue,....I can't quite get it. So please,....help me out here. I love words. Thanks.


6 posted on 10/19/2005 6:30:19 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: jjm2111

West, East, North, South,....don't get me started.


7 posted on 10/19/2005 6:31:26 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Rummyfan
RCMPolice in Canada can wear turbans, rather than regulation head gear -- all in the name of multi-culturalism. This was a big issue in the late 80's. It can create doubts about an officer's imparatility in a multi-ethnic situation.


8 posted on 10/19/2005 6:33:09 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: Piledriver
Discrimination complaints from Muslim Americans rose 70 percent to 1,019 in 2003, the latest year available

Encouraged to do so by Western/liberal appeasement.

Not only do Islamics have no have intention of ever assimilating into Western culture, they plan on destroying it.

9 posted on 10/19/2005 6:36:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Piledriver

Potential OSHA violations for departments not following the respirator guidelines?

1910.134(d)(1)(ii)
The employer shall select a NIOSH-certified respirator. The respirator shall be used in compliance with the conditions of its certification.

1910.134(f)(3)
The employer shall conduct an additional fit test whenever the employee reports, or the employer, PLHCP, supervisor, or program administrator makes visual observations of, changes in the employee's physical condition that could affect respirator fit. Such conditions include, but are not limited to, facial scarring, dental changes, cosmetic surgery, or an obvious change in body weight.

1910.134(f)(7)
If the fit factor, as determined through an OSHA-accepted QNFT protocol, is equal to or greater than 100 for tight-fitting half facepieces, or equal to or greater than 500 for tight-fitting full facepieces, the QNFT has been passed with that respirator.




They want the job so bad and the beard, they must meet the federal requirements to where an SCBA Unit. If they can't pass the test, they can't keep the job.


10 posted on 10/19/2005 6:36:23 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: garyhope

dhimmi are a "protected" group of non-Muslims living in a Muslim area. The Koran allows such people to be tolerated if they are not idolators, if the accept that Muslims should rightly dominate politically, and if they agree to pay a special tax in exchange for being tolerated. It amounts to institutionalized second class citizenship.


11 posted on 10/19/2005 6:42:30 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: garyhope

dhimmi are a "protected" group of non-Muslims living in a Muslim area. The Koran allows such people to be tolerated if they are not idolators, if the accept that Muslims should rightly dominate politically, and if they agree to pay a special tax in exchange for being tolerated. It amounts to institutionalized second class citizenship.


12 posted on 10/19/2005 6:43:03 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: Piledriver
...Johnson told the paper that the police department was a ``paramilitary organization'' ...

As opposed to a law-enforcement agency, no doubt.

13 posted on 10/19/2005 6:45:27 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Piledriver
They'd better do something soon--- before the city becomes Falafeldelphia.
14 posted on 10/19/2005 6:46:17 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Rummyfan

He should feel lucky that they take a bath.


15 posted on 10/19/2005 6:48:40 PM PDT by mrexitement
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To: Piledriver

Muslim cops. You would think this country would have learned on 9/11...but they didn't.


16 posted on 10/19/2005 6:50:44 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Piledriver

I'm gonna keep my beard and come Ramadan I stay home.


17 posted on 10/19/2005 7:24:36 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: popdonnelly

Hey, if you saw with alot of Muslims do with sharp blades around a neck, you wouldn't want to shave your beard either. Just ask nicholas berg.


18 posted on 10/19/2005 7:26:11 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: EBH
In Michigan a cadet is not allowed to attend a fire academy with facial hair that interferes with the SCBA face mask seal.
They are also not allowed to take the firefighter certification exam.
No excuses excepted, they comply or they leave.
19 posted on 10/19/2005 7:39:55 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Line the border with trebuchets.)
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To: jjm2111

"Barf. They have no idea what they're getting into."

LOL - here's your choices ... a Bhurka or pink spandex


20 posted on 10/26/2005 11:57:26 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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