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The Coming Explosion Over Miers – Redux (Too many conservatives going off half-cocked.)
The American Thinker ^ | October 3, 2005 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/03/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by quidnunc

Rush Limbaugh has found the information that Harriet Miers is an evangelical Christian, a member of a church in Dallas that most would describe as "fundamentalist." I believe that this vindicates my earlier analysis based on mistaken information about a Ministry supported by Ms. Miers.

Blue state fundamentalists tend to hate evangelicals the way that Islamists hate Jews: viscerally. It will take enormous willpower for many of them to avoid saying that one who believes in the literal word of the Bible should not be allowed a place on the Supreme Court. They played footsie with the position that a devout Catholic would be disqaualified.

To partially quote my earlier post: this is a battle the Democrat left can't win with a majority of the American public, which sees religious faith as a good thing. As far as I am concerned about the coming attacks, Dirty Harry summed up my feelings: "Go ahead — make my day."

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(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
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Too many conservatives have themselves fallen prey to a form of Bush Derangement Syndrome.

They demand a fire-breathing, in-your-face, old-time-religion-preaching conservative whose nomination would trigger a to-the-death confrontation with the Democrats.

What they don't seem to understand is that the GOP is by no means assured of winning such a fight.

We conservatives need to pipe down until the facts are all in instead of going off half-cocked.

1 posted on 10/03/2005 4:35:20 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Perhaps, but this is GW's last good chance to get a conservative judge on the court. It is also his last good chance to do something good for the country and get his last jab at the libs.

It's pretty obvious he is burned-out.


2 posted on 10/03/2005 4:37:44 PM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: quidnunc

I was pretty discouraged when I heard Bush's announcement this morning. Most conservatives wanted Bush to put up an "in-your-face" nominee and have a battle royale over him or her.

Rush made a statement today that I thought was telling: "If you had to go to war, would you want the Senate Republicans as your army?" This says a mouthful. Because we have so many RINOs in the Senate who have threatened to vote against strong conservatives like Janice Rogers Brown or Michael Luttig, Bush's options were limited. He didn't want to put up a nominee that would be "Borked".

Knowing the quality of judges that W has nominated for district and appellate courts, do we think that all of a sudden he lowered his standards for the Supreme Court? He knows Miers and he knows her philosophy. He also understands what is at stake.

The Vice-President did interviews with Rush and Hannity today. I think the White House underestimated the conservative backlash. Thus, they brought out the VP to do damage control.

Conservatives are very angry. From the posts I've read, the RNC will take a big financial hit in the coming months. This could mean trouble for the mid-term elections.

I'll wait to hear Miers during the hearings before passing judgment.


3 posted on 10/03/2005 4:37:48 PM PDT by freedom4me (...Error alone needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.--Thomas Jefferson)
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To: quidnunc
They demand a fire-breathing, in-your-face, old-time-religion-preaching conservative

We want that, we need that, we're that close with both houses of congress and the presidency.

The problem is 5 senators who aren't loyal to the conservative cause.....Do I need to name them?

Mike

4 posted on 10/03/2005 4:39:44 PM PDT by MichaelP (To win, one must risk loss.......)
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To: quidnunc

The President knows her well and if he likes her, I like her.


5 posted on 10/03/2005 4:39:56 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: quidnunc

Not to mention you can not be assured that RINO's like SNOWE, CHAFFEE, COLLINS,and even SPECTOR would vote FOR a strong conservative. Sometimes you battle plan is determined by your resources and even though we hold a statistical lead in Senate seats. There is a split in our party as is seen in this nomination. The big proble we have with Meirs is her "unknown" characteristics. I trust GW's judgement on this, but its going to be years and many decisions to discover whether she is like O'Conner or to her right. And at this point. We just don't know.


6 posted on 10/03/2005 4:40:05 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: quidnunc
I trust this President to choose wisely. He knows her, he trusts her, and that matters to me. Those having fits haven't even got a clue what she will be like on the Courts. There are just those here who seem to want to criticize everything the President does. It says more about them, then it does him imo.
7 posted on 10/03/2005 4:40:38 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: quidnunc

Good post!

Not the first time we've seen this kind of overreaction of FR.

Monday morning quarterbacking is a specialty around here.


8 posted on 10/03/2005 4:41:51 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: JustAnotherOkie
"this is GW's last good chance to get a conservative judge on the court."

Stephens is an old fart and could drop dead tomorrow.
9 posted on 10/03/2005 4:42:05 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: quidnunc

The Supreme Court, along with all forms of fallen government will soon be obsolete. Her nomination will have little if any effect on the future of America, since the problems of this world, especially nuclear terrorism, make everything else trivial in scope.

Hebrews 8
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.


10 posted on 10/03/2005 4:42:07 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: quidnunc

"We conservatives need to pipe down..."

Seems to be a popular sentiment around here.


11 posted on 10/03/2005 4:44:21 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Thanks for clearing that up for us.


12 posted on 10/03/2005 4:45:18 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: quidnunc

"Who is this Jesus? Surely he isn't the Messiah, because the Messiah will lead us in a bloody overthrow of our Roman occupiers."





(Note, I'm not comparing her to Jesus, but rather comparing the reaction of the zealots.)


13 posted on 10/03/2005 4:46:14 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ("I'm quitting the GOP! (Again!)" - Eeyore. Join the Self-Annointed Martyr Party!)
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To: JustAnotherOkie
Perhaps, but this is GW's last good chance to get a conservative judge on the court. It is also his last good chance to do something good for the country and get his last jab at the libs.

First of all, I think Miers is a good conservative pick. I support her nomination and confirmation.

Secondly, Ruth Bader Ginsberg is not (my opinion) going to last the next three years. She may not be the only one. How old are Kennedy and Souter?

14 posted on 10/03/2005 4:46:40 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: ladyinred

Agreed. I think it's fine to disagree with the President, but I think it should be based on something other than what pundits say...get some info first.
There's so much knee jerk reaction.


15 posted on 10/03/2005 4:47:08 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)
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To: quidnunc

What does her religion have to do with her interpretation of the Constitution. What conservatives were expecting (and were promised repeatedly) were the nomination and confirmation of originalists like Scalia and Thomas. So far, we're two for two against. We've got a minimalist in Roberts and a complete unknown in Miers. Whether or not we can win the fight is not a reason to abandon the battle. If we can't explain and fight for our principles openly but instead have to resort to stealth candidates, then we might as well just merge the two parties and have done with it. Or maybe next time, actually elect a conservative.


16 posted on 10/03/2005 4:47:34 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Pessimist
Pessimist wrote: {"We conservatives need to pipe down...") Seems to be a popular sentiment around here.

This is an even more popular sentiment:

When in trouble or in doubt…
run in circles, scream and shout!

17 posted on 10/03/2005 4:48:29 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Good point. Who the heck are we to ask for a conservative Justice on the court? Hell, the next opportunity is just around the corner...when Ginsberg croaks.

Oh, yes...the facts will come out...and it looks to be another "Read My Lips" moment. Problem is...the Pubbies would never even ask nasty questions of her, so it'll never come out in the hearings. It'll come out in the decisions rendered.

18 posted on 10/03/2005 4:48:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: quidnunc
They demand a fire-breathing, in-your-face, old-time-religion-preaching conservative whose nomination would trigger a to-the-death confrontation with the Democrats.

Not really. A solid, mellow conservative would be fine. He isn’t capable of that though.

A Christian (real one) isn’t preoccupied with a “to-the-death confrontation” with Democrats or anyone else. Physical life isn’t be-all/end-all and Almighty God protects His children that please Him and delivers their enemies unto them.

Don’t know what Bush is scared of though. I have my suspicions and his actions to formulate an opinion. It's not flattering.

19 posted on 10/03/2005 4:49:05 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Stephens is an old fart and could drop dead tomorrow

Right--but I made an error, it seems. For some reason I thought Souter and Kennedy were older...and Ginsberg isn't all that well, just look at her.

20 posted on 10/03/2005 4:49:08 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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