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State urges dismissal of ACLU suit [NC - Quran in courtrooms - CAIR]
News 14 Carolina ^ | 9/29/2005 8:49 AM

Posted on 09/29/2005 6:25:13 AM PDT by TaxRelief

GREENSBORO, N.C. -- A lawsuit filed over the use of non-Christian texts for courtroom oaths should be dismissed because there is no controversy between the parties to settle, the state argues in its response filed this week.

The state attorney general's office also said the American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina, which filed the lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court in July, lacks the right to sue.

The lawsuit does not name anyone who has been denied the opportunity to take a religious oath on a non-Christian book, but ACLU attorney Seth Cohen doesn't believe that's necessary.

The suit was filed on behalf of the organization's roughly 8,000 members statewide, some of whom are Muslims and Jews who would prefer to use religious texts other than the Christian Bible for courtroom oaths, Cohen said.

(snip)The ACLU in June called on the state Administrative Office of the Courts to adopt a policy allowing use of the Quran and other religious texts in North Carolina courtrooms. The request came after the two top judges in Guilford County decided that Muslims could not legally take an oath on the Quran.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: cair; enemywithin; jihadwatch; koran; ncjudiciary; ncpolitics; quran

1 posted on 09/29/2005 6:25:18 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

This is an excerpt.


2 posted on 09/29/2005 6:25:50 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

And I urge dismissal of the ACLU. For good.


3 posted on 09/29/2005 6:26:16 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: TaxRelief

The ACLU believes that the Bill of Rights is an instrument of national suicide. That's their goal, aim and purpose in life. Nothing more, nothing less.


4 posted on 09/29/2005 6:31:57 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" Amierca must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: TaxRelief

CAIR here in Maryland is screaming "hate crime" lately. Someone vandalized a mosque ...... with a Star of David. Can't get more evil than that.


5 posted on 09/29/2005 6:32:33 AM PDT by lizma
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To: TaxRelief
Bump for further reference.

John / Billybob
6 posted on 09/29/2005 6:46:28 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: TaxRelief
Just keep letting this crappy commie organization get away with taring down our country..We might as well kiss our butts goodbye if these commies are not stopped..
7 posted on 09/29/2005 6:49:06 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: TaxRelief
What's next...swearing an oath on a copy of Dianetics? Elements of Witchcraft?

BTW, it's OK for Moooslims to lie to Christians.

8 posted on 09/29/2005 6:51:25 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: Constitution Day; Alia; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day, Alia OR TaxRelief if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
9 posted on 09/29/2005 6:59:58 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief

The ACLU should be restricted to only being abled to jointly swear out an affidavit with someone who has actually been "damaged" before being allowed to ever file another lawsuit and should be extended to any court case.

All the costs to taxpayers re: Newdow where not one person was proven harmed could have been avoided had the claim of damage been first asked of his "daughter" or had she been required to jointly file an affidavit to that effect.

No one should be allowed to file suits on behalf of anyone else as a "damaged party" unless it's a joint filing. Period.


10 posted on 09/29/2005 7:19:08 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: TaxRelief
Excuse my exuberance - only exception - those legally declared medically incapable of filing such affidavit.
11 posted on 09/29/2005 7:24:01 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: TaxRelief

Isn't there already a provision in the law that a non-Christian can choose to "affirm" to tell the truth when testifying?


12 posted on 09/29/2005 7:32:47 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Call Chuckie Schumer's office @202-224-6542 for your FREE credit report.)
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To: Carolinamom

Yes, and the provision that allows the option to affirm to tell the truth should cover all belief systems.


13 posted on 09/29/2005 7:44:35 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief; Constitution Day

So, let me get this straight. The ACLU is actually urging that religious texts be allowed in the courtroom? Isn't that a good thing?

The policy seems reasonable to me. After all, would a Muslim me more likely to tell the truth while swearing an oath on the Bible? I wouldn't think so.


14 posted on 09/29/2005 8:10:16 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (Everyone who hires us is a psycho. You think that's a reflection on us?)
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To: Darth Reagan
After all, would a Muslim me more likely to tell the truth while swearing an oath on the Bible?

They're no more likely to tell the truth if swearing on their Q'uran. The Islamist "holy book" (sic) encourages lying to infidels if it means covering up for another Muslim.

15 posted on 10/09/2005 1:12:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Prime Choice

So it doesn't matter what they swear on. Don't want someone dirtying up the Bible by swearing a false oath, do you?


16 posted on 10/13/2005 6:56:04 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (Everyone who hires us is a psycho. You think that's a reflection on us?)
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To: Darth Reagan
Don't want someone dirtying up the Bible by swearing a false oath, do you?

I've seen far more vulgar kind handle the Holy Bible. Fortunately, the Bible is not sullied by it.

17 posted on 10/13/2005 7:32:46 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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