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Legislator claims he has immunity from DUI charge
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | September 27, 2005 | NANCY BADERTSCHER

Posted on 09/27/2005 5:13:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

After Rep. David Graves was charged with drunken driving for a second time, he and his lawyer offered a surprising defense:

As a lawmaker, Graves cannot break the law — at least not while the Legislature is at work.

The Macon Republican is using an obscure provision in the state constitution to argue that he should not be prosecuted for a DUI he received in Cobb County in February, during the 2005 session of the General Assembly.

The centuries-old provision holds that a lawmaker cannot be arrested during sessions of the General Assembly, legislative committee meetings or while they're "in transit," except in cases of "treason, felony, or breach of the peace." Such provisions were generally written to protect lawmakers from political intimidation.

Cobb State Court Judge Irma B. Glover is expected to make public her ruling today on Graves' "legislative immunity" defense. His trial is set for today.

Graves — chairman of the House committee overseeing laws governing the alcohol industry — has said that on Feb. 15, he and other committee chairmen went from the Capitol to a dinner meeting, where they conferred about the status of legislation and plans for the next legislative day. His lawyer, William C. "Bubba" Head, argues Graves should have been granted immunity from arrest because he was leaving a gathering that was tantamount to a committee meeting, according to legal filings.

Gary Jones, the assistant solicitor in Cobb State Court assigned to prosecute the cases, said his office is fighting the contention.

"Just because you're having dinner with other politicians doesn't make it a committee meeting," Jones said. "They could be at a casino doing the same thing, and he could allege it was a committee meeting, even though they're gambling. Only in this case, they were drinking — which to me is another indication it was not a committee meeting."

The prosecutor said Graves could not remember details of the meeting such as whom he met with or which laws were discussed.

Neither Head nor Graves could not be reached for comment late Monday.

Graves, 47, is actually awaiting trial on two DUI charges, one from March 2004, when authorities say he ran a red light, and the one from Feb. 15, which occurred at a police roadblock in Vinings. So far he is claiming legislative immunity only in the latest case. If convicted on one or both charges, Graves faces possible fines, a short jail stint and perhaps the loss of his House committee chairmanship.

Georgia's legislative immunity provision has been part of its constitution since 1789. It's one of many across the country.

One of the early immunity laws, in Virginia, dates to a 17th-century incident in which the royal governor arrested a lawmaker to keep him from voting, according to the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot newspaper.

But in recent years legislators and staffers have tried to use immunity laws to defend themselves against nonpolitical charges. In 1996, a Virginia judge rejected a legislative aide's immunity claim and convicted her of drunken driving. And in 2002, courts rejected a Wisconsin senator's attempt to use the provision to shield himself from charges of illegally raising campaign contributions.

In 1985, then-state Attorney General Michael Bowers weighed in on the topic in Georgia, issuing a legal opinion that the provision in the constitution might give legislators immunity from physical arrest. But, he concluded, "There is no constitutional immunity for members of the General Assembly from prosecution for speeding violations or other violations of criminal law."

Jones expects today's ruling will delay Graves' trial and won't be the last word on the immunity issue.

"I'm sure either side will appeal, which means we'll end up in the Supreme Court over this constitutional provision," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: davidgraves; dui; electedofficials; government; stupidrepublican
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His lawyer, William C. "Bubba" Head, argues Graves should have been granted immunity from arrest because he was leaving a gathering that was tantamount to a committee meeting, according to legal filings.

I suppose Ted Kennedy has a driver.

Macon, GA needs a new Representative.

1 posted on 09/27/2005 5:13:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perhaps he thinks he is really working for the UN?


2 posted on 09/27/2005 5:14:30 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Vegetarian, permaculturalist, cloth wearing, green, peak oil believing Trad Catholic Indie.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Graves needs to give it up. He's making Republicans look bad.


3 posted on 09/27/2005 5:14:56 AM PDT by keats5
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

adios, as*hole...


4 posted on 09/27/2005 5:17:07 AM PDT by martin gibson (I know not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A local (state) politician, Ernie Chambers, has used that defense successfully for speeding tickets for years.


5 posted on 09/27/2005 5:17:55 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: keats5

You're right.

I would claim that he could be arrested under the breach of peace part of the order. DUI might even fall under the felony part of the law.

He's grasping at straws.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 5:18:05 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With 2 DUI's, this man is fortunate that stupidity is not a felony.


7 posted on 09/27/2005 5:18:14 AM PDT by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time will pick himself up and carry on)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Buy the House a drink.


8 posted on 09/27/2005 5:19:07 AM PDT by battlegearboat (It's always cooler on the other side of the pillow)
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To: keats5
So what else is new? Typical RINO activity and the party refuses to act appropriately. The downfall of the republican party will be the ongoing kissing up to RINOS.
9 posted on 09/27/2005 5:19:22 AM PDT by Issaquahking (In Arab his message is easier to understand than all of yesterday's morons put together.)
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To: OpusatFR

"Perhaps he thinks he is really working for the UN?"

You beat me to it. I guess the term 'diplomatic immunity' now applies to the Legislator. Barf!


10 posted on 09/27/2005 5:20:47 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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except in cases of "treason, felony, or breach of the peace

Nice try RINO
11 posted on 09/27/2005 5:21:39 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Ham & Eggs: A day's work for a hen, A lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This defense has been used many times by US Senators and Congressmen in Washington DC.


12 posted on 09/27/2005 5:22:40 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is the kind of crap you mostly find Dimwits trying to pull. I think he needs to resign.

Republicans are held to a higher standard, and if he wants to pull a dimwit defense he may as well just become a dim.

13 posted on 09/27/2005 5:23:41 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The pubbies should wring his neck like a Christmas goose. Don't worry though, this only justifies the butcher and whets the appetite for the next RAT drunkard that comes down the pike.


14 posted on 09/27/2005 5:24:01 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

burn him AND his scumbag lawyer


15 posted on 09/27/2005 5:24:40 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.spadata.com)
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To: keats5; Cincinatus' Wife

> Graves needs to give it up. He's making Republicans look bad.

I propose a law that anyone trying to use a loophole as a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card be given an automatic 6 months, with extra time depending on the degree of outrageousness.


16 posted on 09/27/2005 5:24:42 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: IamConservative

That's what I was wondering.


17 posted on 09/27/2005 5:24:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Keep in mind that many southern Republicans are just Democrats who changed their party affiliation to get elected. This man is a disgrace.


18 posted on 09/27/2005 5:25:27 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This guy is a Republican?

Kick his drunken a$$ out of the party!

This is as lame as when Clinton tried to skate out of his legal problems by invoking his "active duty" status.


19 posted on 09/27/2005 5:25:58 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a crock.

He is not immune to presecution, although he IS immune to arrest while commuting to/while "in Session" - these laws were designed to protect the legislative process from executive abuse - not to protect the representative from the consequences of his actions.


20 posted on 09/27/2005 5:28:42 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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