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With world watching, trial starts
The York Dispatch ^ | 9/26/2005 | CHRISTINA KAUFFMAN

Posted on 09/26/2005 12:14:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor

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To: Right Wing Professor

As opposed to dumb design? :)


21 posted on 09/26/2005 12:51:57 PM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: bkepley
outside of the Free Republic I have heard nothing, zilch about this thing.

I heard a report on the trial on a Phoenix talk radio station this morning. This particular station I think may have an anti-evolution bias, but they didn't let it show.

I think you're right. The BBC is looking for ways to bash dumb Americans. Thanks to the anti-evos out there.

22 posted on 09/26/2005 12:56:38 PM PDT by narby
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To: Right Wing Professor

Read part of the complaint. Can't wait for the plaintiffs to provide proof that the evolutionary process leads to the appearance of new species. I suspect they will not be able to do so.

Also, is there a witness list?


23 posted on 09/26/2005 12:56:54 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: narby

Here we go, lets return the

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1491636/posts

We should send a few reporters over there to take a look at the looney limeys.



24 posted on 09/26/2005 12:59:27 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: PatrickHenry

My periodic, obligatory bump and thanks for all the pings post.


25 posted on 09/26/2005 12:59:40 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: bkepley
It's an American thing and I doubt the average say Japanese is much interested.

If it's on the Beeb and in the NYT, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't get some play in Japan.

26 posted on 09/26/2005 1:00:01 PM PDT by narby
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Crevo threads for the past week:

2005-09-26 Dispute over evolution goes on trial in U.S. court
2005-09-26 Does Genesis hold up under critic’s scrutiny? (Creation/Evolution)
2005-09-26 New Analyses Bolster Central Tenets of Evolution Theory
2005-09-26 The Problem With Evolution
2005-09-26 With world watching, trial starts
2005-09-25 In Evolution Debate, Creationists Are Breaking New Ground
2005-09-24 The trouble with Darwin (Bush's I.D. comments changed Australia's Educational Landscape)
2005-09-23 Ultimate thread on Dover, Pennsylvania's Evolution v. Intelligent Design trial
2005-09-22 Court Case Threatens to 'Drag Science into the Supernatural'
2005-09-22 Evan Jamieson, hydrometallurgy (Creation/Evolution)
2005-09-22 Insight into our sight: A new view on the evolution of the eye lens (Desperate conjuncture)
2005-09-22 Intelligent Design: An Ambiguous Assault on Evolution
2005-09-22 Intelligent designers down on Dover
2005-09-22 Intelligible Design
2005-09-21 Intelligent design? Not on this campus [Pennsylvania]
2005-09-21 Researchers create functioning artificial proteins using nature's rules
2005-09-20 Challenged by Creationists, Museums Answer Back
2005-09-20 Darwin Goes to Church
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27 posted on 09/26/2005 1:01:58 PM PDT by Junior (Some drink to silence the voices in their heads. I drink to understand them.)
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To: connectthedots
Can't wait for the plaintiffs to provide proof that the evolutionary process

You'll be disappointed. This case won't cover that. It will cover the evidence that the school board adopted this standard specifically as religious indoctrination.

And the school board will lose.

28 posted on 09/26/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT by narby
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To: connectthedots
Read part of the complaint. Can't wait for the plaintiffs to provide proof that the evolutionary process leads to the appearance of new species. I suspect they will not be able to do so.

They don't have to. Evolution isn't on trial. The issue is whether the Dover policy passes the Lemon test.

Witness list

29 posted on 09/26/2005 1:02:42 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (I'm a victim, you're a victim, he's a victim, she's a victim, wouldn't you like to be a victim too?)
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To: narby
If it's on the Beeb and in the NYT, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't get some play in Japan.

Sure fine, but does the average Japanese care? I know and work with a wide assortment from fundamentalist Christian to Atheist and no one has ever mentioned it. They certainly talked about Katrina which is something "the Whole World is Watching".

30 posted on 09/26/2005 1:03:36 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley
no one has ever mentioned it.

That there's so much international interest in a trial over a school board issue in a small American town is amazing. That this doesn't come to the level of Katrina coverage, well, duh.

31 posted on 09/26/2005 1:06:39 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby
That there's so much international interest in a trial

I doubt it.

32 posted on 09/26/2005 1:07:56 PM PDT by bkepley
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I doubt it.

Well, how much international interest in small town school board issues is "normal".

Any such issue at the Mesa Arizona school board that brought in reporters from the London Guardian, the BBC, and the NYT (which has considerable international readership), I'd think is extraordinary.

If you don't agree. Ok. (I'll just bop on down the the next school board meeting and find out how many international reporters are there)

33 posted on 09/26/2005 1:12:31 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby

International Interest? Some British reporters?

Like I said the British reporters are there to feel superior. I don't think anyone despises America right now more than the British elite.


34 posted on 09/26/2005 1:17:15 PM PDT by bkepley
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I doubt it.

Go to Google, search (in news) on Dover evolution. You'll get almost 400 hits. Many are from international sources.

35 posted on 09/26/2005 1:20:43 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: bkepley
Time magazine's cover for 15 August 2005. The whole world is watching.
36 posted on 09/26/2005 1:26:49 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Hoping science/common sense prevails (yes, I'm talking about evolution, not "intelligent design" dogma).


37 posted on 09/26/2005 1:31:01 PM PDT by JasonSC
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To: Junior
Free SeaLion!

Bring back ModernMan!

38 posted on 09/26/2005 1:34:07 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: connectthedots
Can't wait for the plaintiffs to provide proof that the evolutionary process leads to the appearance of new species.

You know science is not about "proof" but rather explaining observations with theory (short version; see PH's list).

But about that new species. How about Homo sapiens?

39 posted on 09/26/2005 1:44:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: Coyoteman
see PH's list

We're here to help: The List-O-Links.
Another service of Darwin Central, the conspiracy that cares.

40 posted on 09/26/2005 1:51:16 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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