Posted on 09/20/2005 6:08:02 AM PDT by manny613
When my older son was about 8 years old, I was putting him to bed one night and asked him what he learned that day in school. Normally he would answer, as nearly all boys do, by saying, "Nothing." But that night he had an answer.
(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...
Tiny theological clarification: Jews and Christians to not believe the same thing about a personal struggle within themselves of good and evil. His description of the Jewish view, two conflicing drives, is different than the Christian view that man is basically good, corrupted by original sin, and redeemed by the grace of the Sacraments through Christ.
Very good article.
is different than the Christian view that man is basically good, corrupted by original sin, and redeemed by the grace of the Sacraments through Christ.
I always thougth the clarifcation would be that Man was created a good and sinless creature, corrupted by Original Sin and continus to be a corrupted creature who is redeemed through Christ.
A great article...lead a selfish, materialistic, hedonistic life but feel good about yourself because you donate money...or bloviate about the underpriviliged!
I agree that ethics and morals are ultimately, mature, concious, decisions.
bttt
Thanks for posting this...it's a good read, some very good points.
Why did I immediately think of Arianna Huffington taking private jets (but only if they just happen to be going to the same place she's going) or riding in a big SUV to and from speaking at a Sierra club conference on saving the earth.
How Ironic..just yesterday, I was thumbing through 5280, a Denver mag. that features fine dining, events, homes..and I come across a 6 page article showing the incredible home of a wealthy Denverite, with it's proclamation that this man had donated 100,000.00 to Komen,.....the man is a strip club owner who is diversifying into the porn market. He drops off his little 8 year old daughter at school every morning before he goes to his club, the Diamond Caberet to conduct business.
An excellent article on one of the fundamental differences between conservative and liberal thinking.
That's right, man is totally depaved and is redeemed by faith in Christ alone. No sacraments can do that, no religion and no good works. I know that might be hard to take but it's true - Catholic who was saved by grace.
An unusually provocative article...
I'm really interested in the techniques his 8 year old is learning regarding this statement:
"Only by people learning to fight their yetzer hara will peace reign on earth."
But, funny strange, the article didn't mention how ... nor what this 8 year old had done at school to earn this admonishment...
How does a child 'catch' the yetzer hara or acquire it, and how do Jews teach their children to fight their yetzer hara?
"All our rightousnesses are as filthy rags"...
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Worth clicking the link and reading the complete article.
Remember those old cartoons where a kid has this little devil perched on one shoulder and a little angel on the other shoulder.
The angel is telling the kid, "Eat your vegetables! They're good for you!" And the little devil says, "You don't have to eat those vegetables, eat ice cream instead!"
Then the little angel does some kung fu moves on the little devil and knocks him out, then says to the kid, "I ate all my vegetables."
When my kids were little, they subscribed to this Jewish comic book that featured the "yetzer tov" as a Superhero and the "yetzer ra" as a super villain. The "yetzer tov" could knock out the "yetzer ra" but only if a boy or girl performed a good deed, like listening to parents, praying, donating charity. Meanwhile if a child was naughty and didn't listen to parents, watch TV before homework, etc. it was like "kryptonite" to the "yetzer tov."
OK, it's real corny, but works for little kids.
Ping!
"Tiny theological clarification...the Christian view that man is basically good, corrupted by original sin, and redeemed by the grace of the Sacraments through Christ"
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom007.html#top
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom006.html#top
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
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