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Nobel Laureates frown on [Kansas] curriculum plans [opposing Evolution]
Wichita Eagle via Kansas.com ^ | 16 September 2005 | Staff

Posted on 09/16/2005 4:54:35 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Thirty-eight Nobel Prize laureates asked state educators to reject proposed science standards that treat evolution as a seriously questionable theory, calling it instead the "indispensable" foundation of biology.

The group, led by the writer Elie Wiesel, said it wanted to defend science and combat "efforts by the proponents of so-called intelligent design to politicize scientific inquiry."

The proposed standards, which could come up for final Board of Education approval later this year, are designed to expose students to more criticism of evolution but state in an introduction that they do not endorse intelligent design.

That increasingly popular theory argues that some features of the natural world are best explained as having an intelligent cause because they are well-ordered and complex. Its followers attack Darwin's evolutionary theory, which says natural chemical processes could have created the basic building blocks of life on Earth, that all life had a common ancestor and that man and apes shared a common ancestor.

Education Board Chairman Steve Abrams, a conservative Republican who has supported the proposed standards, said he was unmoved by the scientists' plea, which became public Thursday.

"I don't think anything should be taught as dogma," Abrams told the Lawrence Journal-World.

The standards, used in developing tests for students, came up for update under state law.

Besides Wiesel, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986, the letter writers include chemists, physicists and medical experts from Wiesel's New York-based Foundation for Humanity.

In their letter, they lauded evolution, saying "its indispensable role has been further strengthened by the capacity to study DNA."

The group said intelligent design can't be tested scientifically "because its central conclusion is based on belief in the intervention of a supernatural agent."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: crevo; crevolist; eliewiesel; scienceeducation
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Everybody be nice.
1 posted on 09/16/2005 4:54:37 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 300 names.
See the list's explanation at my freeper homepage.
Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

2 posted on 09/16/2005 4:55:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"I don't think anything should be taught as dogma," Abrams told the Lawrence Journal-World."

Sounds pretty dogmatic to me.....

3 posted on 09/16/2005 4:59:10 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry

Oh and they say this is not about a religion. HA!!!


4 posted on 09/16/2005 5:00:26 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: PatrickHenry
Thirty-eight Nobel Prize laureates asked state educators to reject proposed science standards that treat evolution as a seriously questionable theory, calling it instead the "indispensable" foundation of biology.

What do a bunch of Nobelists know about science education compared to heartthrob mega-babe Kathy Martin?

5 posted on 09/16/2005 5:01:50 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

If this GROSS LIBERAL ANTI-REALITY effort does not get stopped, our so-called institutions of learning will be nothing more re-conditioning camps for Communists for the sole purpose of socialist indoctrination to their re-defined world.

Total insanity.


6 posted on 09/16/2005 5:02:13 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: PatrickHenry
Cree Creation Story

When light first came to the earth, O-ma-ma-ma the earth mother of the Cree people gave birth to the spirits of the world. The first born was Binay-sih, the thunderbird who protects the animals from the sea serpent, Genay-big. Thunderbirds shout out their unhappiness or anger with black clouds, rain and fire flashes in the sky. The second born was Ina-kaki, the lowly frog who heightens the sorcerer's powers and helps to control the insects in the world. The third born was the trickster Wee-sa-hay-jac, who can change himself into many forms or shapes to protect himself. The fourth child was Ma-heegun, Wee-sa-hay-jac's little wolf brother. They travel together with Wee-sa-hay-jac on his back. The fifth born was Amik the beaver, who is greatly respected because he is an unfortunate human from a different world. Fish, rocks, grasses, and trees all came from the womb of the great earth mother O-ma-ma-ma. The earth was inhabited a long time by only animals and spirits because Wee-sa-hay-jac had not yet made any people.


7 posted on 09/16/2005 5:03:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: VadeRetro

It is wrong to teach children they are common descent of animals. You tell a child they are an animal and they are going to act like animals.

I do not care what the evolutionists believes.


8 posted on 09/16/2005 5:05:16 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: VadeRetro
What do a bunch of Nobelists know about science education compared to heartthrob mega-babe Kathy Martin?


Kathy Martin, chief anti-evolutionist on the Kansas School Board
Thirty-eight Nobel Prize winners can't persuade her

9 posted on 09/16/2005 5:05:22 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: PatrickHenry

As much as I admire Elie Wiesel, why does he qualify as an expert on biology?


10 posted on 09/16/2005 5:06:12 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: PatrickHenry
Thirty-eight Nobel Prize laureates asked state educators to reject proposed science standards that treat evolution as a seriously questionable theory, calling it instead the "indispensable" foundation of biology.

They only got 38? Must have been a few laureates on vacation.

11 posted on 09/16/2005 5:06:42 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Coyoteman
O-ma-ma-ma the earth mother of the Cree people ...

Is O-pa-pa-pa the earth FATHER of the Cree people?

This is another one of those funny data points for the idea some linguists have that language only originated once.

12 posted on 09/16/2005 5:06:46 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: CondorFlight
As much as I admire Elie Wiesel, why does he qualify as an expert on biology?

Gee, maybe he just understands it.

13 posted on 09/16/2005 5:07:36 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Science class is about science. Your convenience was not considered in the history of the universe, the Earth, and life on Earth.
14 posted on 09/16/2005 5:08:05 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Since she is your competitor how about posting your photo side by side of hers.


15 posted on 09/16/2005 5:08:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: CondorFlight
As much as I admire Elie Wiesel, why does he qualify as an expert on biology?

He doesn't; but he's managed to put together what seems to be an impressive group of science winners. And I might point out that he's no less qualified, and possibly a tad more intelligent, than the lovely Kathy Martin.

16 posted on 09/16/2005 5:08:56 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: VadeRetro

Evolution is a lie. Evolution is a convenience for those who find the need to plot another way, could call it another god.


17 posted on 09/16/2005 5:10:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: All
Might as well toss this in:

The List-O-Links.
How to argue against a scientific theory.
Another service of Darwin Central, the conspiracy that cares.

18 posted on 09/16/2005 5:11:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Sounds like a case for the Tenth Amendment to me.


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

19 posted on 09/16/2005 5:12:05 PM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: Just mythoughts
Evolution has the evidence. That's why it has won acceptance. Darwin might have lied, but he didn't. Had he done so, it would have been detected immediately, much less by now. Instead of which, in Dobzhansky's words, "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."

Your emotional knee-jerks of religious horror are not science and have no place in science class.

20 posted on 09/16/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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