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Study reveals huge U.S. oil-shale field
The Seattle Times ^ | Sep. 1, 2005 | Jennifer Talhelm

Posted on 09/02/2005 5:44:37 AM PDT by Herosmith

WASHINGTON — The United States has an oil reserve at least three times that of Saudi Arabia locked in oil-shale deposits beneath federal land in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming, according to a study released yesterday.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Utah; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: energy; oil; opec; peakoil; shale
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Maybe there is a longer term solution under our noses...
1 posted on 09/02/2005 5:44:38 AM PDT by Herosmith
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To: Herosmith

one can only hope. lets hope we can get to it before the environmentalists hamstring us with over-regulation.


2 posted on 09/02/2005 5:46:30 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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The main problem with oil shale is finding an inexpensive way to recover it. Oil prices rising is one of the unfortunate ways of making it cost-effective.


3 posted on 09/02/2005 5:46:54 AM PDT by capt. norm (Two wrongs do not make a right. It usually takes me at least three..)
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To: Herosmith

IIRC there was an attempt to exploit this resource in the 80's or 90's but it was abandoned because of cost and environmental concerns. The first objection has certainly been answered.


4 posted on 09/02/2005 5:46:58 AM PDT by Arkie2 (Mega super duper moose, whine, cheese, series, zot, viking kitties, barf alert!)
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To: Herosmith

This is really interesting in the fact that my dad was talking about this 25+ years ago. I can't repeat what he said in regards to the oil companies ignoring this!!


5 posted on 09/02/2005 5:47:27 AM PDT by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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To: Herosmith

Canada has really developed oil extraction technology from oil shale.


6 posted on 09/02/2005 5:48:23 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Herosmith

It has to be cost effective now.


7 posted on 09/02/2005 5:48:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's code and found a terrorist message.)
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Shale oil is still relatively expensive to process and get to, compaired to oil fields currently used.

Last I ready shale oil costs about $20 a barrel to get out of the ground compaired to $5 a barrel in Saudi Arabia.... Of course with oil trading at $60 a barrel, that is a nice spread to find a profit margin in there...

THe problem though is OIL is basically overpriced right now due to market manipulation, NOT by a supply limit. And will, once the bubble pops return to $30-$40 a barrel range prices.. which will make shale oil extraction impractical. Spend all the money and time to start getting it out, only to see the price drop to where its unprofitable to pump it out.

When the price to get a barrel of shale gets to $5 or $10 a barrel, that's when it'll get tapped.


8 posted on 09/02/2005 5:49:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: swmobuffalo

THey aren't ignoring it.. see post 8.


9 posted on 09/02/2005 5:49:48 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: capt. norm
Canada is doing this with their oil sands project. I believe their break even point is 18$ per barrell

Mike

10 posted on 09/02/2005 5:50:03 AM PDT by MichaelP
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I have heard about massive reserves of shale oil since the days of Jimmy Carter...


11 posted on 09/02/2005 5:50:17 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Maybe there is a longer term solution under our noses...

Wish it were so, but did you notice the part about "under federal land"? Once again the Feds do more for OPEC than OPEC does...

12 posted on 09/02/2005 5:51:00 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: HamiltonJay

which is our catch 22, costs to much to do it, so we don't, but if we don't it'll take that much longer to figure out how to do it cheaper.


13 posted on 09/02/2005 5:52:04 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Arkie2

Oil shale rock needs to be heated. That requires at least 40% of the oil released from the rock not counting any other energy and equipment costs. It won't produce oil at X dollars a barrel, but it may provide some oil for when we run out of other sources.


14 posted on 09/02/2005 5:52:16 AM PDT by palmer (If you see flies at the entrance to the burrow, the ground hog is probably inside)
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This is old news. Have we developed a reliable down well steam generator?


15 posted on 09/02/2005 5:52:39 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Herosmith

Well, daggone it, here's a possible solution to our dependence on foreign oil...The Department of Energy needs to get to work with the Bureau of Land Management and immediately open those fields for oil recovery, and also beat back the environmental regulatory tangle that has made it impossible to build refineries here in the U.S. for the past 20 years.


16 posted on 09/02/2005 5:52:54 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Herosmith

While prices are high, we need to pressure our congresscritters to open exploration up in as many places as possible.


17 posted on 09/02/2005 5:53:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: timtoews5292004
lets hope we can get to it before the environmentalists hamstring us with over-regulation.

I fear it's too late already on that score.

18 posted on 09/02/2005 5:53:50 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: absolootezer0

Believe me, oil companies and others are still actively doing research to figure out ways to get shale oil produced cheaper... its not being ignored.

Shale is no panacea either, there are other issues, but until you deal with the fiscal issue, the others are moot.


19 posted on 09/02/2005 5:54:22 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: timtoews5292004

Yep, the time has come that when the friendly local neighborhood environmentalist whacko starts spouting off that it will contribute to "global warming", tell him to shove it up his butt and if he/she don't like let em move to New Orleans....


20 posted on 09/02/2005 5:54:48 AM PDT by lgjhn
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