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Prophetic: This magazine article foretold New Orleans' doom...four years ago
Popular Mechanics ^ | September 11, 2001 | Jim Wilson

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:56:14 PM PDT by DesScorp

"During a strong hurricane, the city could be inundated with water blocking all streets in and out for days, leaving people stranded without electricity and access to clean drinking water. Many also could die because the city has few buildings that could withstand the sustained 96- to 100-mph winds and 6- to 8-ft. storm surges of a Category 2 hurricane. Moving to higher elevations would be just as dangerous as staying on low ground. Had Camille, a Category 5 storm, made landfall at New Orleans, instead of losing her punch before arriving, her winds would have blown twice as hard and her storm surge would have been three times as high."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans; predictions
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This is a chilling prediciton of what would happen to New Orleans...and to top it off, notice the date it was published...
1 posted on 08/31/2005 4:56:17 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

Unbelievable-----and the publication date stopped me in my tracks.


2 posted on 08/31/2005 4:58:26 PM PDT by Mears (Mrs Massachusetts)
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To: DesScorp
George Bush should be impeached for not bringing this to the attention of that dimwit governor of Louisiana. And for not giving her the money to act on it. And for not making sure the money got spent correctly. And then, for not letting her take full credit for it, along with the Mayor of New Orleans, and Mary Landreau.

(steely)

3 posted on 08/31/2005 5:02:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: DesScorp

That is an interesting publication date, but really...this isn't particularly unique or prophetic. As I just posted on another thread, ever since I first went to N.O. in 1988, I've been told by everyone I met there that this would happen. 99% of N.O. residents knew it.


4 posted on 08/31/2005 5:02:54 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Mears

Oh my. What a shame it wasn't heeded. And that publication date! Unbelievable.


5 posted on 08/31/2005 5:04:34 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: DesScorp

Well, it's not as if you had to be psychic to predict something like this. Too bad people have a penchant for deferring necessary action until it's too late. Wait until the pigs are out, and then close the barn door.


6 posted on 08/31/2005 5:05:03 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: DesScorp

That prediction isn't all that amazing. Everytime there's a hurricane in the gulf there's worry about New Orleans due to the fact it's been a disaster waiting to happen.


7 posted on 08/31/2005 5:07:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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Popular Mechanics | September 11, 2001 | Jim Wilson

Story certainly surfaced on a memorable & fateful date ... probably why it was ignored.

8 posted on 08/31/2005 5:08:42 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: DesScorp
Wow, predicting the predictable. I'm not impressed.
9 posted on 08/31/2005 5:10:01 PM PDT by John Lenin (Liberalism: Where shame is a virtue)
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To: DesScorp

great post.


10 posted on 08/31/2005 5:21:43 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: jammer

The residents of New Orleans appear to have some kindred link to lemmings... The whole area should be used as a landfill, solving any future problems with living beneath sea level right next to the freakin' ocean...too many Darwin Award candidates here to be overly pitied. Harry Truman of Mt St. Helens fame has just been surpassed...MAJORLY!


11 posted on 08/31/2005 5:24:06 PM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: DesScorp

This is not new. It was known for years that NO was a disaster waiting to happen. I recall in 1985 when the Chicago Bears went to the Super Bowl, WGN personality, Bob Collins broadcasted that most of NO was below sea-level.

Everybody knew it. But nobody did anything about it.


12 posted on 08/31/2005 5:43:03 PM PDT by joem15
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To: DesScorp
The Army Corps of Engineers & Louisiana Officials have been aware of the potential disaster for decades and could have learned form the Dutch. The levee system is designed to withstand a Cat 3 hurricane & no more. The Dutch experienced tremendous loss of life & property destruction in 1954 from North Sea storms & flooding. They took it upon themselves to build a system of dikes & levees (areas up to 20 ft. below sea level while N.O. is at most 8ft.) to protect the port of Rotterdam & the surrounding countryside - aka The North Sea Project.A similar project should have been undertaken years ago in Louisiana, but it's like the old saying "you can pay me now, or pay me later" and New Orleans is paying the motherlode now.
13 posted on 08/31/2005 5:46:53 PM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitor")
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To: jammer

Considering the number of hurricanes that have taken potshots at NO in the last few years, it's really not hard to believe that this will happen again. They've been very fortunate up to this point.


14 posted on 08/31/2005 5:51:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DesScorp

During an F-2 tornado, with winds of 113-157 miles per hour, Topeka, KS could be hit with high winds, dust and debris. Some trees and powerlines could be toppled. Those living in mobile homes may be significantly impacted by such tornadic activity. Tornadoes of F-4 or F-5 magnitude would cause even greater damage to Topeka.

Bonus Prophecy
Crude oil prices may rise in the future causing increased cost at the pump for motorists.


15 posted on 08/31/2005 5:55:28 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: jammer; DesScorp
Ok. So Pop Sci noticed on 9/11/01 that the NO levees/sumps have some maximum practical limit.

Question: Do you think the people that built the levees ever thought there was some design limit?

I mean, levees have an -open- top you know!!!!!!

Obviously, there's some engineering trade-off, and these aren't intended to stem floodwaters from every possible catastrophe.

I just think its funny that writers in papers or some prophetic magazine are revered for their forebearance, and yet, the actual engineers/designers/accountants that argued the best possible design/price point don't get more credit.

16 posted on 08/31/2005 6:04:04 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Everybody knew it. But nobody did anything about it.

I disagree. The engineers did SOMETHING about it. They did not do ENOUGH for this particular storm. However, no engineering project is ever limited by the scope of the designer.....they are always limited by BUDGET.

The politicians and accountants and PEOPLE that elected them ALSO did SOMETHING. They demanded that there be a limited budget for this project, and thus, it was not designed for every possible disaster. (Nor could any budget allow that.)

I also think that this is how it must be.

Apercu posts "nd New Orleans is paying the motherlode now".

I don't think you can imply that if more had been done less would be lost. If the levees are designed for 8ft, instead of 6ft, then when they breach, there's that much MORE water to cause havoc. Plus, an "invincible" levee would encourage MORE building, MORE underwriters to risk investment, and MORE people...thus even more death and destruction.

17 posted on 08/31/2005 6:12:02 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: PresbyRev

I predict that you will be flamed for your succinct sarcasm.


18 posted on 08/31/2005 6:13:30 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DesScorp

It didn't take much prophecy to see that this city was a disaster waiting to happen. What I don't get is why something wasn't done earlier. Just too costly, I guess.

It would be interesting to compare the costs they're facing now with the costs of averting something like this 10 or 15 years ago.


19 posted on 08/31/2005 6:37:28 PM PDT by cockalorum
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To: Birdsbane; metmom

I agree with everything you say. Few would live there if it weren't for its geographical position at the mouth of the Mississippi and if it weren't for its rich history (more than a little related to its geographical position).


20 posted on 08/31/2005 6:46:07 PM PDT by jammer
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