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RFK Jr.: Bush, Barbour to Blame for Katrina
NewsMax.com ^ | Aug. 30, 2005 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 08/30/2005 8:25:37 PM PDT by kddid

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is blaming Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, along with President Bush, for causing Hurricane Katrina.

"As Hurricane Katrina dismantles Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, it’s worth recalling the central role that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour played in derailing the Kyoto Protocol and kiboshing President Bush’s iron-clad campaign promise to regulate CO2," Kennedy blogged Tuesday on HuffingtonPost.com.

The influential Democrat's enviro-conspiracy theory had the sinister Gov. Barbour engineering Bush's energy policy on behalf of "the president’s major donors from the fossil fuel industry." Kennedy charges that in March 2001, the former Republican National Committee chairman issued "an urgent memo to the White House" on CO2 emissions.

With that, the president dropped his pro-environment campaign promise like a hot potato.

Because of Bush and Barbour's CO2 folly, said Kennedy: "Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged."

RFK, Jr. even suggested that Katrina's last minute detour through Mississippi was a bit of Divine payback, declaring:

"Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: barbour; blame; bush; junkscience; katrina; leftyfairytales; moonbats; nimbyboy; rfk; rfkjr; robertfkennedy; robertfkennedyjr; robertkennedy; robertkennedyjr
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To: kddid

He could have at least waited until all the bodies were recovered.... but what does a Kennedy care about drowned people.


41 posted on 08/30/2005 8:39:20 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: BARLF

Your right. The half that votes Kerry and Teddie.


42 posted on 08/30/2005 8:39:29 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: kddid

Well if it's one thing the Kennedy's know about, it's people drowning in cars.


43 posted on 08/30/2005 8:39:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kddid
Aha...Bush's Fault Again....

When is the time that people will say, "It's Hillary's Fault", "It's Ted Kennedy's Fault", or "It's Helen's Fault"...//sarcasm//

44 posted on 08/30/2005 8:40:08 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: kddid

what a little Kennedy bitchboy


45 posted on 08/30/2005 8:40:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (finally....power and cable)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Speaking of "wind":

Carolyn Lochhead, San Francisco Chronicle, Jan 27, 2003

(Excerpt)
ROBERT F. Kennedy Jr., a noted environmental attorney, has a new cause: defending Cape Cod property values and yachting from a wind farm project in the waters of Nantucket Sound. His uncle, Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., may also weigh in against the project, which threatens to spoil the view from the Kennedy Compound at Hyannis Port just six miles away, as well as the vistas of many expensive homes on Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket and tony Cape Cod retreats.

46 posted on 08/30/2005 8:40:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kddid

Wasn't this guy whining about Mercury a while ago ans said his levels were quite high? Well, if that's true, that just might explain the "logic" to this argument. Meet the latest incarnation of the Mad Hatter.


47 posted on 08/30/2005 8:41:06 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: AZ_Cowboy

ans=and.


48 posted on 08/30/2005 8:43:04 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: kddid

Seems like every time lately that a Kennedy opens his or her mouth something incredibly stupid comes out of it. That dork had to be smoking, shooting, or snorting something to make him say that! He makes his Uncle Teddy look like a sober sage by comparison!


49 posted on 08/30/2005 8:44:14 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: kddid
Some needs to tell this shat-fer-brains that the US Sentate - both Republicans and Democrats voted 99-0 against Kyoto.
50 posted on 08/30/2005 8:44:20 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Callahan

"RFK Jr. can suck my Sirhan. He's the clown who never shuts up about renewable energy, but when they tried to build a windfarm near the family yachting zone he sudddenly had a problem."

Egads! You want a Kennedy to be subject to the same terms as the peasantry? Apparently you've misplaced your copy of the Memo that states that Kennedys and other limousine liberals may tell YOU what to do, but are not required to follow the same rules. They are Beautiful People, you see....they are Liberals!

They are also arrogant, self-absorbed, drunken pervs that are the result of generations of inbreeding. But that's a topic for another day.


51 posted on 08/30/2005 8:44:24 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% who voted for GWB)
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To: kddid

I just posted a thread on the extended news sidebar about hurricanes in that Gulf area since the 1500's. The data was put together by the Air Force Weather Detachment at Eglin AFB.

The records get much better in the 1800's.

In short, there was an average of about 1 hurricane every other year.

The range though, went from a few hurricanes a year up to only one in about a 4-5 year stretch.

In short, there's nothing unusual about there being a hurricane in this region this year. Kyoto has nothing to do with it.

Article is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473774/posts


52 posted on 08/30/2005 8:45:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kddid
RFK Jr is the mediocre son of a mediocre son of an exceptional manufacturer and peddler of bathtub gin.

His father's assassination, as tragic as it was, spared the left something even more painful: His father's defeat at the hands of Richard Nixon.

53 posted on 08/30/2005 8:45:32 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Casey was proud to be a soldier." Patrick Sheehan, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan's father)
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To: dfwgator

"Well if it's one thing the Kennedy's know about, it's people drowning in cars."

L.O.L. That is the BEST line. Bwah ha ha!


54 posted on 08/30/2005 8:45:35 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% who voted for GWB)
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To: kddid
"Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast."

Wasn't it Pat Robertson that claimed a hurricane was turned in the Atlantic by prayer a few yrs. ago? Wasn't he scorned for the statement?

JFK jr. is in for it now. /sarc

55 posted on 08/30/2005 8:45:48 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: EagleUSA

" It was predicted early on, that the radical libs would politicize the disaster which is EXACTLY what this piece of literary trash is."

August 29, 2005

Doom and Gloom Liberals Will Use Hurricane To Advance Their Agenda http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

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August 30, 2005

NBC Reports Bunch of Barbra Streisand About Hurricane Katrina vanden Heuvel http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here's Mark in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Hello, sir, and welcome.

CALLER: Rush, you called it on global warming. NBC last night. (pause) Rush?

RUSH: We have the sound bite of that, too. Mike, grab audio sound bite #5. I wasn't even going into get this, this was so ridiculous, but since you brought it up and it was a See, I Told You So, here is NBC science correspondent Robert Bazell and his report on the hurricane last night.

BAZELL (Breathlessly): Even with a slight weakening, Katrina was one of the biggest ever, and many scientists say we can expect such storms more often, as global warming increases sea temperatures, around the world!

[] RUSH: Now, once something like this gets going, folks, there's no stopping it. It's got an inertia of its own, but it isn't true. Hurricane expert Max Mayfield at the National Hurricane Center says it has nothing to do with this. This is part of a normal cycle (story). If you want, I can go get lists for you of the most deadly hurricanes this century, and I can tell you how there are hurricanes long before anybody thought of man made global warming, that had just as much death and destruction as this. (The 1900 Galveston Storm) This is not unprecedented, but most people's historical perspective begins with the day they were born and they judge events within their own lifetime. "Well, it's never been as bad as this. Well, we've never had it as good as this." So to people who have never seen the category four hurricane, "Well, hey, it couldn't have been any worse than this, Rush! Why, it had to be global warming." No. These things have been happening since the beginning of time. There have been worse ones than this when there was nobody talking about global warming, when it hadn't even been created as a political football -- and I have this little story. I knew this is going to come up, so I had this at the top of the stack, right here, folks, and it comes from NewScientist.com. Brace yourselves.
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"Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true. John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings. 'We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery,' Ioannidis says. In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong," and this is not an editorial opinion. This is statistically, and it's based on study, and then to follow that, we have this from the Guardian in the UK:

"Some of America's leading scientists have accused Republican politicians of intimidating climate-change experts by placing them under unprecedented scrutiny. A far-reaching inquiry into the careers of three of the US's most senior climate specialists has been launched by Joe Barton, the chairman of the House of Representatives committee on energy and commerce. He has demanded details of all their sources of funding, methods and everything they have ever published." He damn well should! We now know -- even before we knew it; we could assume, accurately so -- that much of this is just opinion. Much of this is bias brought on by the nature of the political leaning of a particular group of scientists or individual scientists, and then you look at where they get their funding and of course it all makes sense to examine what the outcome of their research is. Now, the Guardian says:

"Mr. Barton, a Texan closely associated with the fossil fuel lobby, has spent his 11 years as chairman opposing every piece of legislation designed to combat climate change." You know why? It's not possible! It's a waste of money. It isn't possible. Folks, use logic -- and there's a German government minister, in an Oslo newspaper today (story), who said our failure to sign the Kyoto accords and reduce our pollution is why this hurricane happened and why it's so devastating. That's asinine! It is pure... It's absurd! But just use the logic. You know what this hurricane started out as? Tropical depression ten. Hurricane Katrina vanden Heuvel started at tropical depression ten. By the way, she's not happy. She is not. She's written, she's posted somewhere on a blog (story), she doesn't think this is useful or helpful to name this hurricane after her, and I'll tell you, "Libs, they can dish it out. They cannot take it!" They can dish all day long, but they can't take it. Nevertheless, Hurricane Katrina vanden Heuvel started as tropical depression ten way out there east of the lesser Antilles, and then it dissipated, and the National Hurricane Center said, "Ah, this thing is gone. It was very weak. It's not worth following. We'll keep our eye on it."

It popped up again a week later as tropical depression 12. They said, "It's the same tropical depression, but because there's been some time since it dissipated we're going to name it 12 rather than keep it ten," and so ten then became Katrina, and then it became tropical storm, and then it became Hurricane Katrina, and we watched it all the way out in the [] Atlantic, approach Florida, go across Florida into the gulf. All this time, we knew that it was a hurricane, and we knew it was headed for parts of America that it could be very destructive. Could we stop it? Is there one thing we could have done? Could we have all driven hybrids last week? Could we have all shut down all oil production and just walked everywhere? Is there anything we could have done? No, folks, there's nothing we could have done to change the direction of that storm, to lessen the intensity. Nothing we could have done. So, on the basis of logic, what have we done to cause it? What did we do to cause it? What is it that made it start where it start, dissipate, and then come back as a roaring hurricane all the way up to category five shortly before landfall?

Well, what they're saying is, "Sea temperatures, Rush! The sea temperatures out there! They are scalding hot, and as you have said yourself, that's like throwing gasoline on a hot fire."

Well, what's making the ocean temperature higher?

"Well, Rush, global warming."

No, I don't think so. Because global warming, if you look at any of these wackos who predict it, global warming, they talk about the polar ice caps melting. That's where they talk about the warming take place, and what would that do? That would send cooler water south, and this is what the hurricane experts are saying. Global warming would actually reduce the incidence of hurricanes, because it would have -- if it actually happened as these wackos say -- there would be a general cooling in the equatorial regions of the planet of water. We're just in a cycle. We are in a cycle where these have happened before. We're in a sunspot cycle (story). The sun's activity may be a little bit more robust than usual. We can't stop that, either. We just have to accept that these things happen, but this incessant desire to blame ourselves on the part of the left, it's always the Blame-America-First Crowd, the blame the capitalists, blame progress, blame technological advancement. "We are the ones to blame for this." Bush is responsible for it because of the war in Iraq, Bush didn't care about Kyoto? It's absurd. It's all patently false, and yet where is the absurdity reported as fact front and center? On NBC. I'm telling you there's no difference between MoveOn.org, George Soros' groups, and the mainstream media in America today.

END TRANSCRIPT
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Read the Articles...
(New Scientist: Most scientific papers are probably wrong)
(NY Times: Storms Vary With Cycles, Experts Say)
(Expatica: US pollution partly to blame for Katrina: German minister)
(HP: Messing with Mother Nature - Katrina vanden Heuvel)
(UK Guardian: Republicans accused of witch-hunt against climate change scientists)
(UK Guardian: Climate change sceptics bet $10,000 on cooler world)

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56 posted on 08/30/2005 8:45:55 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein)
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To: Cecily
So as far as I am personally concerned, he can take his environmentalist whacko lectures and stick them in a dark place.

Doing that would definitely improve his I.Q....

57 posted on 08/30/2005 8:46:21 PM PDT by dirtbiker ("..fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction" Prov 1:7)
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To: kddid
Two words, Bobby: CAPE WIND
58 posted on 08/30/2005 8:46:44 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: LostInBayport

You summed that up very nicely.......bravo!


59 posted on 08/30/2005 8:46:51 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: kddid

If RFK Jr. is so concerned about environmental issues, then he should know about EROSION, and the fact that N.O. is built on a house of cards. They don't call it the Mississippi Delta for nothing! Poor emergency planning couldn't be the fault of Demo-stooges being in charge of the state, now could it?


60 posted on 08/30/2005 8:46:58 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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