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Schools will chart body mass (mandated by State of Pennsylvania)
Times Leader ^ | 8/29/2005 | JENNIFER LEARN-ANDES

Posted on 08/29/2005 5:36:47 AM PDT by Born Conservative

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Yep; I need the government to tell me if my child is overweight. I thought schools were for education, not health care...
1 posted on 08/29/2005 5:36:48 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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Yep; I need the government to tell me if my child is overweight. I thought schools were for education, not health care...

Government schools exist to raise children. Education is secondary to indoctrination.

2 posted on 08/29/2005 5:39:54 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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BMI is an iffy way to judge obesity if you ask me. Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds are both obese, for instance, if judged by BMI.


3 posted on 08/29/2005 5:40:37 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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the parents will just sue the schools claiming they hurt the childs feelings by telling them they are overweight...


4 posted on 08/29/2005 5:41:41 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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5 posted on 08/29/2005 5:43:05 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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Homeschool starts today. I don't think I'll be charting BMI's for a while though.


6 posted on 08/29/2005 5:46:11 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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My understanding is that true BMI is a good test. However, the height/weight calculation that is used is OFTEN inaccurate. It is inaccurate not only for athletes, but also for those with thicker bones.

The proper test requires submersion in water to test water displacement. This test is far more accurate (and the principle goes back to Archimedes).

BMI is a good measure. There is just no easy and inexpensive way to get the number. And it is none of their business. (Yet one more reason to homeschool!)


7 posted on 08/29/2005 5:46:54 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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My daughter was judged to be very underweight in 4th grade. Without informing me, a nurse checked her lunch intake every day for several weeks, and was quite baffled when my daughter was not only eating her lunch, but cleaning up the remnants of friends' lunches.

I was very happy to inform them that HAD THEY ASKED ME, high metabolism's a family trait (at least until age 35!). I told them that they did not have my permission to monitor my daughter's weight or eating habits - that was my job.

Big brother (or big mother) at work - wasting tax dollars on useless endeavours.


8 posted on 08/29/2005 5:51:13 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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Twenty five years ago my kids' grammar school went to preservative free, whole foods for their lunch program.

It was a tremendous success not only for health, but the teachers were pleased to notice that the kids were well behaved after lunch.

Diet is vital to well being, but surely measuring children's fat is not the answer.

If parents don't want to take their family's health into consideration I fail to see how this is a gummint issue.

9 posted on 08/29/2005 5:52:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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Public schools are obsessed with EVERYTHING but teaching.....


10 posted on 08/29/2005 5:56:45 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("People do stupid things...." and I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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Children with high indexes because of excess fat are at increased risk for serious health conditions, such as heart disease, diabetes, asthma and high blood pressure.

Will require a home visit by family services.

Underweight children also face health risks, especially if they are nutrient deficient"

will require a home visit by family services.


11 posted on 08/29/2005 5:59:11 AM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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I thought a mirror would do THAT job.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall,
Who's the fattest of them all?

12 posted on 08/29/2005 5:59:42 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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…any kids involved in a lot of physical activity or athletics will have a muscle mass that figures into their weight and gives them a higher BMI.”

At least this time around muscle mass is considered. When this BMI nonsense first came out my “normal” weight came out to be around 165 pounds. I can “pinch an inch” at my love handles – about an inch and a half. If I got down to 165 I’d be an emaciated walking skeleton. When I returned from Viet Nam the last time I weighted 185 – with visible ribs and hip bones.
13 posted on 08/29/2005 6:01:12 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Ping


14 posted on 08/29/2005 6:06:08 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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Thicker bones.
You got that right.

There ARE three body types:
a. Endomorphes -- natural sumo wrestler types (My sister-in-law was this way, 6' tall, 350 lbs, fat, yes, but who was at her very fittest at 199 lbs. Just a very large woman.)
b. Mesomorphes -- "average" or medium body types
c. Ectomorphes -- small boned, bird bodies (Southeast Asians and their tiny, little wrists come to mind....and those are the men.)

The public schools WON'T know this. Lol. Incomplete information, as usual, as always.
They will BLAST away at the endomorphes and hold up the ectomorphes as the "ideal," Wrong yet again.

15 posted on 08/29/2005 6:06:52 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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Schools will chart body mass (mandated by State of Pennsylvania)

You're a good one to talk, Dunderhead Ed.

16 posted on 08/29/2005 6:26:12 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Agreed. I'm not suggesting that this is the school's job (it's not) however, doing body composition estimates using calipers is more accurate, and not that difficult (if I can learn to do it, anyone can!).
And besides, a parent can look at a child and know if they are overweight. Parents know. They are either already doing something, or they are ignoring it.
I just saw an article in our local paper about ''muffin tops''. It refers to the flab that hangs over the low riding pants so many of the girls wear. Back in the day (when I was in school), few girls would have worn low riding pants and either a short or tight, clingy top if she had fat hanging over. I can't figure out if there is a mirror shortage these days, or if kids think fat is attractive, or they just don't care. But, with the clothes they wear, their parents are aware of their level of body fat, as are the rest of us.
susie


17 posted on 08/29/2005 6:27:15 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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If parents don't want to take their family's health into consideration I fail to see how this is a gummint issue.

I agree, but this is what comes out of the govt. being involved in (as in paying for) health care. If they have to pay when a person gets sick, it suddenly becomes their job to keep them healthy.

susie
18 posted on 08/29/2005 6:29:44 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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Sounds like a privacy issue to me. Wouldn't this be considered medical records?


19 posted on 08/29/2005 6:32:30 AM PDT by em2vn
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...meanwhile, Gov. Fat Eddie Rendell is pleased to announce that he's brokered a deal between Taco Hell, Pizza Slut, M&M/Mars and Coke, to pimp even MORE products in schools.

It's a woin-win situation! We can MAKE the kids fat, and then invade the privacy of the children and their families BECAUSE they're fat!

And raise taxes in the process, to boot!

20 posted on 08/29/2005 6:36:00 AM PDT by Malacoda (*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*)
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