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Stephen Hayes:See No Evil, Hear No Evil(What the 9/11 Commission narrative left out: Iraqis)
The Weekly Standard ^ | September 5 / September 12, 2005 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 08/28/2005 1:49:07 PM PDT by RWR8189

AHMED HIKMAT SHAKIR IS A shadowy figure who provided logistical assistance to one, maybe two, of the 9/11 hijackers. Years before, he had received a phone call from the Jersey City, New Jersey, safehouse of the plotters who would soon, in February 1993, park a truck bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center. The safehouse was the apartment of Musab Yasin, brother of Abdul Rahman Yasin, who scorched his own leg while mixing the chemicals for the 1993 bomb.

When Shakir was arrested shortly after the 9/11 attacks, his "pocket litter," in the parlance of the investigators, included contact information for Musab Yasin and another 1993 plotter, a Kuwaiti native named Ibrahim Suleiman.

These facts alone, linking the 1993 and 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, would seem to cry out for additional scrutiny, no?

The Yasin brothers and Shakir have more in common. They are all Iraqis. And two of them--Abdul Rahman Yasin and Shakir--went free, despite their participation in attacks on the World Trade Center, at least partly because of efforts made on their behalf by the regime of Saddam Hussein. Both men returned to Iraq--Yasin fled there in 1993 with the active assistance of the Iraqi government. For ten years in Iraq, Abdul Rahman Yasin was provided safe haven and financing by the regime, support that ended only with the coalition intervention in March 2003.

Readers of The Weekly Standard may be familiar with the stories of Abdul Rahman Yasin, Musab Yasin, and Ahmed Hikmat Shakir. Readers of the 9/11 Commission's final report are not. Those three individuals are nowhere mentioned in the 428 pages that comprise the body of the 9/11 Commission report. Their names do not appear among the 172 listed in Appendix B of the report, a table of individuals who are mentioned in the text. Two brief footnotes mention Shakir.

Why? Why would the 9/11 Commission fail to mention Abdul Rahman Yasin, who admitted his role in the first World Trade Center attack, which killed 6 people, injured more than 1,000, and blew a hole seven stories deep in the North Tower? It's an odd omission, especially since the commission named no fewer than five of his accomplices.

Why would the 9/11 Commission neglect Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, a man who was photographed assisting a 9/11 hijacker and attended perhaps the most important 9/11 planning meeting?

And why would the 9/11 Commission fail to mention the overlap between the two successful plots to attack the World Trade Center?

The answer is simple: The Iraqi link didn't fit the commission's narrative.

AS THE TWO SIDES in the current flap over Able Danger, a Pentagon intelligence unit tracking al Qaeda before 9/11, exchange claims and counterclaims in the news media, the work of the 9/11 Commission is receiving long overdue scrutiny. It may be the case, as three individuals associated with the Pentagon unit claim, that Able Danger had identified Mohammed Atta in January or February 2000 and that the 9/11 Commission simply ignored this information because it clashed with the commission's predetermined storyline. We should soon know more. Whatever the outcome of that debate, the 9/11 Commission's deliberate exclusion of the Iraqis from its analysis is indefensible.

The investigation into the 9/11 attacks began with an article of faith among those who had conducted U.S. counterterrorism efforts throughout the 1990s: Saddam Hussein's Iraq was not--could not have been--involved in any way. On September 12, 2001, the day after the attacks, George W. Bush asked Richard Clarke to investigate the attacks and possible Iraqi involvement in them. Clarke, as he relates in his bestselling book, was offended even to be asked. He knew better.

Philip Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission, started from the same assumption. So did Douglas MacEachin, a former deputy director of the CIA for intelligence who led the commission's study of al Qaeda and was responsible for the commission's conclusion that there was "no collaborative operational relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda. (Over the course of the commission's life, MacEachin refused several interviews with The Weekly Standard because, we were told, he disagreed with our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.)

From the evidence now available, it seems clear that Saddam Hussein did not direct the 9/11 attacks. Few people have ever claimed he did. But some four years after the attacks of September 11, 2001, and one year after the 9/11 Commission released its final report, there is much we do not know. The determination of these officials to write out of the history any Iraqi involvement in terrorism against America has contributed mightily to public misperceptions about the former Iraqi regime and the war on terror.

HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW TODAY about Ahmed Hikmat Shakir. In August 1999, Shakir, a 37-year-old Iraqi, accepted a position as a "facilitator" at the airport in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. A "facilitator" works for an airline and assists VIP travelers with paperwork required for entry and other logistical issues. Shakir got the job because someone in the Iraqi embassy in Malaysia wanted him to have it. He started that fall.

Although Shakir officially worked for Malaysian Airlines, his contact in the Iraqi embassy controlled his schedule. On January 5, 2000, Shakir apparently received an assignment from his embassy contact. He was to escort a recent arrival through immigration at the airport. Khalid al Mihdhar, a well-connected al Qaeda member who would later help hijack American Airlines Flight 77, had come to Malaysia for an important al Qaeda meeting that would last at least three days. (Shakir may have also assisted Nawaf al Hazmi, another hijacker, thought to have arrived on January 4, 2000.)

Malaysian intelligence photographed Shakir greeting al Mihdhar at the airport and walking him to a waiting car. But rather than see the new arrival off, he hopped in the car with al Mihdhar and accompanied him to the meeting. Malaysian intelligence has provided its photographs to the CIA. While U.S. officials can place Shakir at the meeting with the hijackers and several high-ranking al Qaeda operatives, they do not know whether Shakir participated actively. (Also present at the meeting were Hambali, al Qaeda's top man in South Asia, and Khallad, later identified as the mastermind of the attack on the USS Cole.)

The meeting concluded on January 8, 2000. Shakir reported to work at the airport on January 9 and January 10, and then never again. Khalid al Mihdhar and Nawaz al Hazmi also disappeared briefly, then flew from Bangkok, Thailand, to Los Angeles on January 15, 2000.

Shakir, the Iraqi-born facilitator, would be arrested six days after the September 11 attacks by authorities in Doha, Qatar. According to an October 7, 2002, article by Newsweek's Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman, "A search of Shakir's apartment in Doha, the country's capital, yielded a treasure trove, including telephone records linking him to suspects in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and Project Bojinka, a 1994 Manila plot to blow up civilian airliners over the Pacific Ocean." (Isikoff, it should be noted, has been a prominent skeptic of an Iraq-al Qaeda connection.)

Shakir had contact information for a lot of bad people. As noted, one was a Kuwaiti, Ibrahim Suleiman, whose fingerprints were found on the bombmaking manuals U.S. authorities allege were used in preparation for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Suleiman was convicted of perjury and deported to Jordan. Another was Musab Yasin, the brother of 1993 Trade Center bomber Abdul Rahman Yasin. Yet another was Zahid Sheikh Mohammed, brother of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the September 11 attacks, now in U.S. custody. Shakir also had an old number for Taba Investments, an al Qaeda front group. It was the number long used by Mahmdouh Mahmud Salim, the highest-ranking Iraqi member of al Qaeda. According to testimony from al Qaeda informants, Salim maintained a good relationship with Saddam's intelligence service.

Despite all of this, the Qatari authorities released Shakir shortly after they arrested him.

On October 21, 2001, Shakir flew to Amman, Jordan, where he hoped to board a plane to Baghdad. But authorities in Jordan arrested him for questioning. Shakir was held in a Jordanian prison for three months without being charged, prompting Amnesty International to write the Jordanian government seeking an explanation. The CIA questioned Shakir and concluded that he had received training in counter-interrogation techniques. Shortly after Shakir was detained, Saddam's government began to pressure Jordanian intelligence--with a mixture of diplomatic overtures and threats--to release Shakir. They got their wish on January 28, 2002. He is believed to have returned promptly to Baghdad.

I have discussed Shakir with nine U.S. government officials--policymakers and intelligence officials alike. The timeline above represents the consensus view.

Two weeks before the 9/11 Commission's final report was released to the public, the Senate Select Intelligence Committee released its own evaluation of the intelligence on Iraq. The Senate report added to the Shakir story.

 

The first connection to the [9/11] attack involved Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, an Iraqi national, who facilitated the travel of one of the September 11 hijackers to Malaysia in January 2000. [Redacted.] A foreign government service reported that Shakir worked for four months as an airport facilitator in Kuala Lumpur at the end of 1999 and beginning of 2000. Shakir claimed he got this job through Ra'ad al-Mudaris, an Iraqi Embassy employee. [Redacted.] Another source claimed that al-Mudaris was a former IIS [Iraqi Intelligence Service] officer. The CIA judged in "Iraqi Support for Terrorism," however, that al-Mudaris' [redacted] that the circumstances surrounding the hiring of Shakir for this position did not suggest it was done on behalf of the IIS.

A note about that last sentence: The Senate committee report is a devastating indictment of the CIA's woefully inadequate collection of intelligence on Iraq, and its equally flawed analysis. It is of course possible that the CIA's judgment about al Mudaris is correct, but the bulk of the report inspires no confidence that it is.

Consider the three new facts in this brief summary. One, Shakir himself told interrogators that an Iraqi embassy employee got him the job that allowed him to help the hijacker(s). Two, that Iraqi embassy employee was Ra'ad al Mudaris. Three, another source identified al Mudaris as former Iraqi Intelligence.

All of this information was known to the U.S. intelligence community months before the 9/11 Commission completed its investigation. And yet none of it appeared in the final report.

Two footnotes are the sum total of what the 9/11 Commission had to say about Ahmed Hikmat Shakir. Here is the more substantive, footnote 49 to Chapter 6, on page 502 of the 567-page report: "Mihdhar was met at the Kuala Lumpur airport by Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, an Iraqi national. Reports that he was a lieutenant colonel in the Iraqi Fedayeen turned out to be incorrect. They were based on a confusion of Shakir's identity with that of an Iraqi Fedayeen colonel with a similar name, who was later (in September 2001) in Iraq at the same time Shakir was in police custody in Qatar." The report is sourced to a briefing from the CIA's counterterrorism center and a story in the Washington Post. And that's it.

Readers of the 9/11 Commission report who bothered to study the footnotes might wonder who Shakir was, what he was doing with a 9/11 hijacker in Malaysia, and why he was ever "in police custody in Qatar." They might also wonder why the report, while not addressing those questions, went out of its way to provide information about who he was not. Such readers are still wondering.

There is no doubt the 9/11 Commission had this information at its disposal. On the very day it released its final report, commissioner John Lehman told me that Shakir's many connections to al Qaeda and Saddam's regime suggested something more than random chance.

So how is it that the Senate Select Intelligence Committee report contains a substantive account of Shakir's mysterious contribution to the 9/11 plot, while the 9/11 Commission report--again, released two weeks later--simply ignores it?

We now know even more about Shakir's Iraqi embassy contact, Ra'ad al Mudaris. The post-Saddam Iraqi government launched its own, secret investigation of al Mudaris and his activities. Al Mudaris was a "local employee" of the Iraqi embassy in Kuala Lumpur. That is, he was an Iraqi already living in Malaysia when he began working officially for the embassy. Although Shakir named him as his Iraqi embassy contact and another source noted his affiliation with the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the U.S. government never arrested al Mudaris. He continued his nominal employment at the Iraqi embassy in Kuala Lumpur even after the Iraq war, outliving the regime that had employed him. He left that position early last fall, shortly after he was named publicly in the Senate Select Intelligence Committee report. A senior Iraqi government official tells The Weekly Standard that al Mudaris still lives in Malaysia, a free man.

BY THE END OF LAST WEEK, the demands for more information on Able Danger had reached fever pitch. The Pentagon claimed to have launched an aggressive investigation into the project. 9/11 Commission co-chairman Thomas Kean was demanding more information on Able Danger from the National Security Council. And Senator Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, fired off a hard-hitting letter to FBI director Robert Mueller demanding answers to a series of questions about the Pentagon unit and its interactions with the FBI.

Answers about Able Danger would be nice, but it is surely long past time for answers on Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, Abdul Rahman Yasin, and Musab Yasin. The 9/11 Commission itself and other relevant bodies should reexamine Shakir's role in the 9/11 plot and his connections to the 1993 World Trade Center plotters. The Bush administration should move quickly to declassify all of the intelligence the U.S. government possesses on Shakir and the Yasin brothers. The Senate and House intelligence committee should demand answers on the three Iraqis from the CIA, the DIA, and the FBI.

Here are some of the questions they might ask:

* Ahmed Hikmat Shakir was arrested in Doha, Qatar, just six days after the 9/11 attacks. How was he apprehended so quickly? Was the CIA monitoring his activities? What did the 9/11 Commission know about this arrest? And why wasn't it included in the 9/11 Commission's final report?

* Who identified Shakir's Iraqi embassy contact, Ra'ad al Mudaris, as former Iraqi Intelligence? Is the source credible? If not, why not?

* Have other detainees been asked about Ahmed Hikmat Shakir? If so, what have they said?

* What do the former employees of the Iraqi embassy in Malaysia tell us about Ahmed Hikmat Shakir and Ra'ad al Mudaris?

* Has anyone from the U.S. government interviewed Ra'ad al Mudaris? If so, how does he explain his activities?

* Have the names Ahmed Hikmat Shakir and Ra'ad al Mudaris surfaced in any of the documents captured in postwar Iraq from the Iraqi Intelligence headquarters in Baghdad?

* How long was the phone call between Ahmed Hikmat Shakir and the safehouse shortly before the 1993 World Trade Center attack?

* Does the U.S. government have other indications that Ahmed Hikmat Shakir and the 1993 World Trade Center bombers were in contact, either before or after that attack?

* Vice President Dick Cheney has spoken publicly about documents that indicate Abdul Rahman Yasin was provided safe haven and financing upon his return to Iraq in 1993. The FBI is blocking declassification of those documents, despite the fact that Yasin is on the FBI Most Wanted Terrorist list. Why?

* Before Operation Iraqi Freedom, Abdul Rahman Yasin, Musab Yasin, and Ahmed Hikmat Shakir were all believed to be in Iraq. Where are they today?

 

Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard.


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1 posted on 08/28/2005 1:49:25 PM PDT by RWR8189
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Amazing! Enquiring minds want to know.


2 posted on 08/28/2005 1:53:31 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: RWR8189

Fantastic article! Thanks for posting this.
My only complaint, the same I have with most articles and columns about the attacks of September 11th, the war on terror, and the Iraq war, is that the author mentions the "9-11 Commission" as if that commission was ever anything but a pandering political sideshow and a laughingstock. Sure, it turned out to be an expensive waste of taxpayer dollars, and maybe even a danger to national security by its partisanship and incompetence, but I think it's time to forget about it and get some real hearings underway.


3 posted on 08/28/2005 1:58:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Peach

Ping


4 posted on 08/28/2005 2:01:19 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: RWR8189

Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 08/28/2005 2:01:48 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: RWR8189
Tha anti-war left:

"Not listening! Not listening!"

6 posted on 08/28/2005 2:03:27 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: RWR8189

tag


7 posted on 08/28/2005 2:03:52 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: ImaTexan

ping


8 posted on 08/28/2005 2:06:18 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: RWR8189

Print and study bttt.


9 posted on 08/28/2005 2:08:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: My2Cents

Thank you so much, My2Cents. I'm on the hurricane thread and would have definitely missed this.

I've added it to my list of links and will read it more carefully later. Stephen Hayes has been a national treasure and done more investigative work on this matter than the entire 9/11 commission all together, imo.


10 posted on 08/28/2005 2:09:08 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina. Prayers for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: My2Cents

Thank you so much, My2Cents. I'm on the hurricane thread and would have definitely missed this.

I've added it to my list of links and will read it more carefully later. Stephen Hayes has been a national treasure and done more investigative work on this matter than the entire 9/11 commission all together, imo.


11 posted on 08/28/2005 2:10:04 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina. Prayers for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: My2Cents

Thank you so much, My2Cents. I'm on the hurricane thread and would have definitely missed this.

I've added it to my list of links and will read it more carefully later. Stephen Hayes has been a national treasure and done more investigative work on this matter than the entire 9/11 commission all together, imo.


12 posted on 08/28/2005 2:10:12 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina. Prayers for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: My2Cents

Sorry for the triple posts. My computer is giving me fits and I have GOT to call someone to come help me "fix" it.


13 posted on 08/28/2005 2:11:52 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina. Prayers for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: RWR8189

I can understand the Dems motives in all this but there were also Republicans on that committee .....what the hell happened to them?


14 posted on 08/28/2005 2:16:58 PM PDT by woofie
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

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15 posted on 08/28/2005 2:19:49 PM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: RWR8189

Good article. I have only seen Hayes on FOX about the time a year ago when his book on terrorism came out. This of course will be clotheslined by MSM and so most Americans will believe like Cindy Shehan does that there is no connection between 911 and IRAQ!


16 posted on 08/28/2005 2:21:08 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: RWR8189

This issue is getting more interesting. While Saddam my not have directed the 9/11 attacks, even 9/11 Commissioner Lehman explained that documents uncovered in Baghdad:

"Indicate that there is at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al-Qaida."

Continuing, he said..."the one striking bit of new evidence is that the name Ahmed Hikmat Shakir appears on three captured rosters of officers in Saddam Fedayeen, the elite paramilitary group run by Saddam's son Uday and entrusted with doing much of the regime's dirty work."

He also went on to highlight much of these other connections from Malaysia and the meetings Ahmed attended. With these acknowledgments, how can some other members of the 9/11 Commission come to any other conclusion. And how can the media continue to perpetuate the lie that Saddam was never a threat...or supporting terrorists.

Whether it was this guy Ahmed, Ramsey Yousif, Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas...or the presence of Al Zarqawi in Iraq even before the war, the evidence is overwhelming that Saddam was a threat. He had already offered UBL santuary on several occassions after Sudan wanted him gone.

Heck, the establishment of Ansar Al-Islam...an AQ affiliate, just after 9/11 in N. Iraq is another issue that's been largely ignored. While they list December of 2001 as the date of formation, Zarqawi and AQ were meeting with both Arabs and Kurds "before" 9/11 to help in launching this outfit.

Human Rights Watch even admits through interviews, that AQ had given over $600,000 dollars to this outfit, along with several vehicles. It's my contention that Ansar and N. Iraq was going to become one of AQ's new bases of operation had the war in Afghanistan succeeded in ousting the AQ and the Taliban. And this was confirmed when Zarqawi ended up in Baghdad for two months shortly after the Afghanistan war started...only to find himself back with Ansar.

Further interviews also noted that fellow Kurds reported the influx of hundreds of foreign fighters, from Afghanistan...before we even went into Iraq. With Saddam's propencity for harboring wanted terrorists...and supporting terrorism, we just couldn't allow Iraq to become the next Afghanistan. Especially with the resources at Saddam's disposal.


17 posted on 08/28/2005 2:21:38 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses.)
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To: woofie

"I can understand the Dems motives in all this but there were also Republicans on that committee .....what the hell happened to them?"

Dupes. Observing Gordon on O'Reilly the other night was a classic case of CYA.


18 posted on 08/28/2005 2:22:34 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: RWR8189; Fedora; Grampa Dave; STARWISE; justshutupandtakeit; Howlin; xzins; maica; Cosmo; ...

I'm so glad Hayes is staying on the 911/Al Qaeda/Iraq beat.... hardly any reporters have done any serious work on this, but he certainly has! This article should be a "MUST READ" for all of the MSM and all of the political class who want to just let things slide along in cover-up mode.


19 posted on 08/28/2005 2:23:50 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: woofie
...what the hell happened to them?

Slade Gorton on Able Danger, 8/22/2005;

“Well, in the first place, you're not going to have something that had anything to do with 9/11 unless there was some intelligence to share. And it's becoming more and more evident that there wasn't any intelligence to share. Shaffer originally said that he told our staff in Afghanistan about Mohammed Atta. He didn't. There were four people there. None of them heard it.”

20 posted on 08/28/2005 2:30:21 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: Peach

I was thinking the same thing, and he's also done more on the Iraq-terrorists connection than the entire MSM put together.


21 posted on 08/28/2005 2:47:25 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: johnny7

"There were four people there. None of them heard it.”

Thanks for posting this. This is what I've been focusing on over the last 6 days since I heard Gordon utter it.

Again, we hear about these 911 staffmembers. Gordon was a dupe, pure and simple. I'm sure his ego is pretty bruised now that he has undoubtedly realized that he was duped. His posturing on O'Reilly was of the nature that suggests someone who is embarrassed and is grasping at straws.


22 posted on 08/28/2005 2:56:29 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: RWR8189

"The determination of these officials to write out of the history any Iraqi involvement in terrorism against America has contributed mightily to public misperceptions about the former Iraqi regime and the war on terror."

Oh, that's where the slogan, "Keep it simple, stupid" came from.

http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/feb98/focus.html
Education Reform: Dumbing Down or Emasculation?

Outcome- Based Education (OBE). The OBE system stresses "the social, emotional, and psychological growth" of children over academic knowledge. This "new paradigm" has radically changed the thrust of the educational process in several ways. For example, instead of basic academic knowledge, education's primary purpose has become to instill in children learning attitudes that deemphasize facts and emphasize politically correct social, psychological, and globalist thinking.


23 posted on 08/28/2005 2:58:21 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: woofie

new tone. this WH refuses to defend itself. they allow the misunderstandings bad info and outright lies to flourish. well bully for them with their new tone! it makes life difficult for the rest of us who try to defend US actions. i hold them responsible for much of the division we now face. it is their fault that otherwise reasonable people on both sides fight over details. the new tone brought us together alright . i may be a supporter but i am not blind. also in this remarkable time of political revelation it would be a good time for the WH to catch up.


24 posted on 08/28/2005 3:19:56 PM PDT by fantom
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To: wolf24

I don't think Shaffer ever said that he told the staffers about Atta by name.....I think he told them about AL QUEDA!


25 posted on 08/28/2005 3:26:56 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fantom

President Job is a most patient man.


26 posted on 08/28/2005 3:28:14 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BARLF

mark


27 posted on 08/28/2005 3:37:38 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: My2Cents

"You said there were WMDs in Iraq and that Saddam had friends in al Qaeda. . . . Blah, blah, pants on fire."
Christopher Hitchens speaking of the Bush lied meme.


28 posted on 08/28/2005 3:43:53 PM PDT by sono
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To: woofie

re: They were busy being the nice guys and good citizens that the left has come to depend upon for their ill deeds to succeed!


29 posted on 08/28/2005 3:44:32 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: RWR8189
This administration will never go after Clinton. In any way.

PRES BUSH GAVE CLITON'S CIA MAN, TENET, A MEDAL!

IF THEY WANTED TO GET CLINTON... THEY COULD HAVE GONE AFTER HIM ON THE MARC RICH PARDON.

they didn't do nothing...

30 posted on 08/28/2005 3:57:11 PM PDT by jd777
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To: jd777
IF THEY WANTED TO GET CLINTON... THEY COULD HAVE GONE AFTER HIM ON THE MARC RICH PARDON.

Okay, but what has that to do with the 9/11 Commission, which is what the thread is actually about?


31 posted on 08/28/2005 4:55:46 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: RWR8189

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Richard A. Posner, in the first full-length study of the post-9/11 movement for intelligence reform, argues that the 9/11 Commission's analysis, on which Congress relied heavily in enacting the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, was superficial and its organizational proposals unsound. The Commission, followed by Congress, exaggerated the benefits of centralizing control over intelligence; neglected the relevant scholarship dealing with surprise attacks, organization theory,and the principles of intelligence, and the experience of foreign nations—some of which have a longer history of fighting terrorism than the United States; and as a result ignored the psychological, economic, historical, sociological, and comparative dimensions of the issue of intelligence reform.

Posner explains, however, that a ray of hope remains: The reorganization provisions of the new Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act are so vague—as a result of intense politicking—that the actual shape of the reorganized system will depend critically on decisions made by the President in implementing the Act. In a searing critique, Posner exposes the pitfalls created by the new legislation, identifies the issues overlooked by the 9/11 Commission and Congress, and suggests directions for real reform.

RICHARD A. POSNER is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago and senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School. He is author of hundreds of articles and nearly four dozen books, including An Affair of State: The Investigation, Impeachment, and Trial of President Clinton (1999); Breaking the Deadlock: The 2000 Election, the Constitution, and the Courts (2001); Public Intellectuals: A Study of Decline (2002); and Catastrophe: Risk and Response (2004).




http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/074254947X/002-3591591-9103239?v=glance

Richard Posner's book will be of great interest to anyone concerned about the rapid changes now taking place in the US intelligence community. This book is a must for anyone who wants to understand the function and organization of intelligence. Posner's arguments are so clear and compelling that you will find yourself saying "Ah-ha!" after almost every chapter.

Specifically, Posner takes on the "The 9/11 Commission Report," for offering an organizational solution for a managerial failure. He shows how the Commission's organizational line and block solution led to the enactment of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act. He shows how this happened with little or no debate about the Commission's recommendations.

Posner explains why surprise attacks happen, and how little the organization of an intelligence apparatus has to do with it. For example, the Arab nations surprised Israel in the Yom Kipur War. An Israel commission determined, after the fact, that the reason for the surprise was lack of decentralization in its intelligence services. The 9/11 Commission, on the other hand, determine the surprise of 9/11 was due to not enough centralization. The fact that there are divergent views on this matter is not surprising. What is surprising is that the 9/11 Commission failed to even investigate them.

As Posner explains, surprise attacks happen, because the adversary does something that is essentially stupid and self-defeating. Often, the surprise attack is a miscalculation, not just for the attacked, but for the attacker as well. This makes anticipation of such attacks particularly challenging. As result, the Commission's hindsight was not 20/20, but altogether distorted by its focus on what had already happened, and not on the full range of possible future surprise attacks.

The range of such attacks is nearly infinite. According to Posner, the desire of the Commission to create an "Intelligence Czar" will not enhance the US intelligence community's ability to foretell these events. It will have the opposite effect of limiting the scope of vision and the diversity of analysis that will make any accurate and timely prediction possible. An Intelligence Czar will be much more prone to political influence, and he will function well above the horizon of subtle surprise attack indicators. He will also be much more likely to spend his time focusing on the "threat de jure" instead of genuine threats.

Posner, however, is not simply beating a dead horse here. While it is true that the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act has been signed into law, the ambiguity of that law still allows for a less destructive interpretation and execution of the law. Under the new law, the Director of National Intelligence may become the "Intelligence Czar," acting as the CEO of the intelligence community. Hopefully, however, he will take on a more constructive role - facilitator of greater coordination, acting as the chairman of the board of the intelligence community. This still remains an open debate.





32 posted on 08/28/2005 4:57:33 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: RWR8189

Bookmark.


33 posted on 08/28/2005 5:17:18 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Casey was proud to be a soldier." Patrick Sheehan, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan's father)
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To: RWR8189
The determination of these officials to write out of the history any Iraqi involvement in terrorism against America has contributed mightily to public misperceptions about the former Iraqi regime and the war on terror.

And even more shameful.....it was by design.

34 posted on 08/28/2005 5:21:47 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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I suspect that Shakir was Iraq's contact with Al Qaeda, and particularly with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and what are known as the "planes" conspirators. Shakir could have communicated to Mohammed Iraq's desire to have Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in Prague attacked. The likely person to carry out such an attack was the 9/11 conspirator who couldn't get a visa to the United States, Ramzi bin al-Shibh. Bin al-Shibh was reportedly in Yemen at the time of the U.S.S. Cole bombing, and was suspected of taking part in it. Perhaps the expulsion of the Iraqi, al-Ani, from Prague put an end to the RFE/Radio Liberty plot.


35 posted on 08/28/2005 6:17:13 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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bttt


36 posted on 08/28/2005 6:17:36 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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bbttt


37 posted on 08/28/2005 6:18:15 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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To: MamaLucci

Damn-straight on your remarks!
Why the continued whitewashing of this from the top down??
It is very frustrating to those of us that read the evidence at every turn..and very dangerous to ALL of us.
Hayes's book "The Connection" is very on-the-mark as are his articles featured on The Weekly Standard...WHY IS THERE NO COVERGE of this type of news on the 24 hour news-channels!!!!


38 posted on 08/28/2005 6:19:28 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)
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Haynes has just been an incredible patriot in his reporting.


39 posted on 08/28/2005 6:42:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Enchante

If we had something other than the Traitor Media he would win an Pulitzer rather than the writer of "Transexual Lesbians and their Fight for Equality."


40 posted on 08/28/2005 7:19:22 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: rdb3

clinton didn't set up the commission. Bush did....


41 posted on 08/28/2005 10:23:00 PM PDT by jd777
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To: jd777
clinton didn't set up the commission. Bush did....

Well, DUH! Don't insult my intelligence, okay.

You didn't answer my question.


42 posted on 08/28/2005 11:12:54 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: woofie
I can understand the Dems motives in all this but there were also Republicans on that committee .....what the hell happened to them?

The charitable thought would be: "Picking their noses, scratching their asses, with their minds in Georgia (or New Jersey or wherever)".

43 posted on 08/28/2005 11:35:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Enchante; RWR8189; Fedora; Grampa Dave; STARWISE; justshutupandtakeit; Howlin; xzins; Shermy; ...

This oped reinforces the observation that the Rats and their Rino friends would do anything to make the Saddam Iraqi's appear to be innocent of 9/11 along with supposedly no WMDs and the buried attack on the WTC during the Clintoon administration.

Why would the Rats, their pet mediots and pet Rinos be so protective of the mass murderers of Iraq before 9/11 up to today?

There are two probable reasons:

1. The money they got from the Oil from Food Scandal and Opecker Thugs to keep Iraq out of the picture before 9/11 and after the first attacks on the WTC during the Clintoons rule of horror.

2. Their absolute hated of GW, which has controlled them since 2000.

GW and a few of his trusted cabinet members probably got an very top secret intel dump from a key ally after 9/11 implicating Saddam and other mass murdering Iraqis in both attacks on the WTC. GW and his admin can't disclose this data anymore than Roosevelt could disclose the code cracking data on the Japanese pre and post Pearl Harbor.


44 posted on 08/29/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: RWR8189

BUMP!!!!


45 posted on 08/29/2005 6:04:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: jd777

Just what the hell do think could have been done about the Clinton pardons? Raise a stink so the Traitor media could wave it all away as "just politics" and surrender his moral authority? Not smart.


46 posted on 08/29/2005 6:35:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: RWR8189
Spotlight on Shakir

Deroy Murdock
National Review Online
June 3, 2004

Additional records further illuminate Iraqi complicity in the September 11 massacre. As a May 27 Wall Street Journal editorial reported, Ahmed Hikmat Shakir's name appears on three different rosters of the late Uday Hussein's prestigious paramilitary group, the Saddam Fedayeen. A government source told the Journal that the papers identify Shakir as a lieutenant colonel in the Saddam Fedayeen.

Shakir worked as a VIP airport greeter and facilitator for Malaysian Airlines at the airport in Kuala Lumpur, a position reputedly arranged by intelligence officers at Iraq's Malaysian embassy. On January 5, 2000, Shakir allegedly welcomed Khalid al Midhar and Nawaz al Hamzi to Kuala Lampur and escorted them through immigration and on to the Kuala Lumpur Hotel. That's where these September 11 hijackers met with 9/11 conspirators Ramzi bin al Shibh and Tawfiz al Atash. Five days later, according to The Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes (he is also author of the new book The Connection), Shakir vanished.

On January 15, al Midhar and al Hamzi quietly flew from Hong Kong to Los Angeles. Nearly eight months later, they very loudly smashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon.

Saddam Fedayeen Lieutenant Colonel Shakir resurfaced on September 17, 2001, in Qatari handcuffs. His pockets and apartment yielded, among other things, phone numbers for the contacts and safe houses of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers. Shakir also possessed information on "Operation Bojinka," al Qaeda's 1995 conspiracy to explode 12 passenger jets simultaneously over the Pacific. Shakir passed from Qatari to Jordanian custody before being released after three months of Iraqi pressure. He reportedly returned to Saddam Hussein's Baghdad.

Papers pulled from the Mukhabarat's Baghdad headquarters indicate that Saddam Hussein's intelligence operatives have known Mohamed Atta's former boss for years.

47 posted on 08/29/2005 7:10:00 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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Oops...forgot to include the source...not enough coffee this morning : )

Baathist Fingerprints

48 posted on 08/29/2005 7:11:57 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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bump for later


49 posted on 08/29/2005 7:29:45 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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marking


50 posted on 08/29/2005 7:57:37 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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