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1 posted on 08/28/2005 1:49:25 PM PDT by RWR8189
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Amazing! Enquiring minds want to know.


2 posted on 08/28/2005 1:53:31 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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Fantastic article! Thanks for posting this.
My only complaint, the same I have with most articles and columns about the attacks of September 11th, the war on terror, and the Iraq war, is that the author mentions the "9-11 Commission" as if that commission was ever anything but a pandering political sideshow and a laughingstock. Sure, it turned out to be an expensive waste of taxpayer dollars, and maybe even a danger to national security by its partisanship and incompetence, but I think it's time to forget about it and get some real hearings underway.


3 posted on 08/28/2005 1:58:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Ping


4 posted on 08/28/2005 2:01:19 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 08/28/2005 2:01:48 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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Tha anti-war left:

"Not listening! Not listening!"

6 posted on 08/28/2005 2:03:27 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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7 posted on 08/28/2005 2:03:52 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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8 posted on 08/28/2005 2:06:18 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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Print and study bttt.


9 posted on 08/28/2005 2:08:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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I can understand the Dems motives in all this but there were also Republicans on that committee .....what the hell happened to them?


14 posted on 08/28/2005 2:16:58 PM PDT by woofie
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Good article. I have only seen Hayes on FOX about the time a year ago when his book on terrorism came out. This of course will be clotheslined by MSM and so most Americans will believe like Cindy Shehan does that there is no connection between 911 and IRAQ!


16 posted on 08/28/2005 2:21:08 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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This issue is getting more interesting. While Saddam my not have directed the 9/11 attacks, even 9/11 Commissioner Lehman explained that documents uncovered in Baghdad:

"Indicate that there is at least one officer of Saddam's Fedayeen, a lieutenant colonel, who was a very prominent member of al-Qaida."

Continuing, he said..."the one striking bit of new evidence is that the name Ahmed Hikmat Shakir appears on three captured rosters of officers in Saddam Fedayeen, the elite paramilitary group run by Saddam's son Uday and entrusted with doing much of the regime's dirty work."

He also went on to highlight much of these other connections from Malaysia and the meetings Ahmed attended. With these acknowledgments, how can some other members of the 9/11 Commission come to any other conclusion. And how can the media continue to perpetuate the lie that Saddam was never a threat...or supporting terrorists.

Whether it was this guy Ahmed, Ramsey Yousif, Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas...or the presence of Al Zarqawi in Iraq even before the war, the evidence is overwhelming that Saddam was a threat. He had already offered UBL santuary on several occassions after Sudan wanted him gone.

Heck, the establishment of Ansar Al-Islam...an AQ affiliate, just after 9/11 in N. Iraq is another issue that's been largely ignored. While they list December of 2001 as the date of formation, Zarqawi and AQ were meeting with both Arabs and Kurds "before" 9/11 to help in launching this outfit.

Human Rights Watch even admits through interviews, that AQ had given over $600,000 dollars to this outfit, along with several vehicles. It's my contention that Ansar and N. Iraq was going to become one of AQ's new bases of operation had the war in Afghanistan succeeded in ousting the AQ and the Taliban. And this was confirmed when Zarqawi ended up in Baghdad for two months shortly after the Afghanistan war started...only to find himself back with Ansar.

Further interviews also noted that fellow Kurds reported the influx of hundreds of foreign fighters, from Afghanistan...before we even went into Iraq. With Saddam's propencity for harboring wanted terrorists...and supporting terrorism, we just couldn't allow Iraq to become the next Afghanistan. Especially with the resources at Saddam's disposal.


17 posted on 08/28/2005 2:21:38 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses.)
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I'm so glad Hayes is staying on the 911/Al Qaeda/Iraq beat.... hardly any reporters have done any serious work on this, but he certainly has! This article should be a "MUST READ" for all of the MSM and all of the political class who want to just let things slide along in cover-up mode.


19 posted on 08/28/2005 2:23:50 PM PDT by Enchante
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"The determination of these officials to write out of the history any Iraqi involvement in terrorism against America has contributed mightily to public misperceptions about the former Iraqi regime and the war on terror."

Oh, that's where the slogan, "Keep it simple, stupid" came from.

http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/feb98/focus.html
Education Reform: Dumbing Down or Emasculation?

Outcome- Based Education (OBE). The OBE system stresses "the social, emotional, and psychological growth" of children over academic knowledge. This "new paradigm" has radically changed the thrust of the educational process in several ways. For example, instead of basic academic knowledge, education's primary purpose has become to instill in children learning attitudes that deemphasize facts and emphasize politically correct social, psychological, and globalist thinking.


23 posted on 08/28/2005 2:58:21 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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This administration will never go after Clinton. In any way.

PRES BUSH GAVE CLITON'S CIA MAN, TENET, A MEDAL!

IF THEY WANTED TO GET CLINTON... THEY COULD HAVE GONE AFTER HIM ON THE MARC RICH PARDON.

they didn't do nothing...

30 posted on 08/28/2005 3:57:11 PM PDT by jd777
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Preventing Surprise Attacks: Intelligence Reform in the Wake of 9/11
Author: Richard A. Posner
Product Code: 4947-X
ISBN: 0-7425-4947-X
Publisher: Rowman and Littlefield
Pages: 214


This book is published by Rowman & Littlefield, and may be purchased at their site www.rowmanlittlefield.com or by calling National Book Network, 1-800-462-6420.

Richard A. Posner, in the first full-length study of the post-9/11 movement for intelligence reform, argues that the 9/11 Commission's analysis, on which Congress relied heavily in enacting the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, was superficial and its organizational proposals unsound. The Commission, followed by Congress, exaggerated the benefits of centralizing control over intelligence; neglected the relevant scholarship dealing with surprise attacks, organization theory,and the principles of intelligence, and the experience of foreign nations—some of which have a longer history of fighting terrorism than the United States; and as a result ignored the psychological, economic, historical, sociological, and comparative dimensions of the issue of intelligence reform.

Posner explains, however, that a ray of hope remains: The reorganization provisions of the new Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act are so vague—as a result of intense politicking—that the actual shape of the reorganized system will depend critically on decisions made by the President in implementing the Act. In a searing critique, Posner exposes the pitfalls created by the new legislation, identifies the issues overlooked by the 9/11 Commission and Congress, and suggests directions for real reform.

RICHARD A. POSNER is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago and senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School. He is author of hundreds of articles and nearly four dozen books, including An Affair of State: The Investigation, Impeachment, and Trial of President Clinton (1999); Breaking the Deadlock: The 2000 Election, the Constitution, and the Courts (2001); Public Intellectuals: A Study of Decline (2002); and Catastrophe: Risk and Response (2004).




http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/074254947X/002-3591591-9103239?v=glance

Richard Posner's book will be of great interest to anyone concerned about the rapid changes now taking place in the US intelligence community. This book is a must for anyone who wants to understand the function and organization of intelligence. Posner's arguments are so clear and compelling that you will find yourself saying "Ah-ha!" after almost every chapter.

Specifically, Posner takes on the "The 9/11 Commission Report," for offering an organizational solution for a managerial failure. He shows how the Commission's organizational line and block solution led to the enactment of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act. He shows how this happened with little or no debate about the Commission's recommendations.

Posner explains why surprise attacks happen, and how little the organization of an intelligence apparatus has to do with it. For example, the Arab nations surprised Israel in the Yom Kipur War. An Israel commission determined, after the fact, that the reason for the surprise was lack of decentralization in its intelligence services. The 9/11 Commission, on the other hand, determine the surprise of 9/11 was due to not enough centralization. The fact that there are divergent views on this matter is not surprising. What is surprising is that the 9/11 Commission failed to even investigate them.

As Posner explains, surprise attacks happen, because the adversary does something that is essentially stupid and self-defeating. Often, the surprise attack is a miscalculation, not just for the attacked, but for the attacker as well. This makes anticipation of such attacks particularly challenging. As result, the Commission's hindsight was not 20/20, but altogether distorted by its focus on what had already happened, and not on the full range of possible future surprise attacks.

The range of such attacks is nearly infinite. According to Posner, the desire of the Commission to create an "Intelligence Czar" will not enhance the US intelligence community's ability to foretell these events. It will have the opposite effect of limiting the scope of vision and the diversity of analysis that will make any accurate and timely prediction possible. An Intelligence Czar will be much more prone to political influence, and he will function well above the horizon of subtle surprise attack indicators. He will also be much more likely to spend his time focusing on the "threat de jure" instead of genuine threats.

Posner, however, is not simply beating a dead horse here. While it is true that the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act has been signed into law, the ambiguity of that law still allows for a less destructive interpretation and execution of the law. Under the new law, the Director of National Intelligence may become the "Intelligence Czar," acting as the CEO of the intelligence community. Hopefully, however, he will take on a more constructive role - facilitator of greater coordination, acting as the chairman of the board of the intelligence community. This still remains an open debate.





32 posted on 08/28/2005 4:57:33 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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Bookmark.


33 posted on 08/28/2005 5:17:18 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Casey was proud to be a soldier." Patrick Sheehan, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan's father)
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The determination of these officials to write out of the history any Iraqi involvement in terrorism against America has contributed mightily to public misperceptions about the former Iraqi regime and the war on terror.

And even more shameful.....it was by design.

34 posted on 08/28/2005 5:21:47 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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I suspect that Shakir was Iraq's contact with Al Qaeda, and particularly with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and what are known as the "planes" conspirators. Shakir could have communicated to Mohammed Iraq's desire to have Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in Prague attacked. The likely person to carry out such an attack was the 9/11 conspirator who couldn't get a visa to the United States, Ramzi bin al-Shibh. Bin al-Shibh was reportedly in Yemen at the time of the U.S.S. Cole bombing, and was suspected of taking part in it. Perhaps the expulsion of the Iraqi, al-Ani, from Prague put an end to the RFE/Radio Liberty plot.


35 posted on 08/28/2005 6:17:13 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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bttt


36 posted on 08/28/2005 6:17:36 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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37 posted on 08/28/2005 6:18:15 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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