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London Bomb Suspects Stood Out as Radicals, Collected Welfare
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 15, 2005 | Jeffrey Fleishman and Sebastian Rotella

Posted on 08/15/2005 7:46:10 PM PDT by nwrep

They first became known to the world as blurry images from subway cameras. But the men accused of attempting to bomb London's transit system July 21 had clearly defined their militancy in the months leading up to the failed attacks.

The suspects had sharpened their radicalism in the streets, mosques and housing projects of rough ethnic neighborhoods, investigators, witnesses and friends say. They were brazen voices in an unsuspecting city, marginalized East Africans who lived by their wits, dabbling in street crime and reportedly manipulating the immigration and welfare systems. During workouts at a West London gym, they channeled their private rage into public diatribes.

The suspects in the attempted London bombings were also preoccupied with other things: They dedicated themselves to ripping off the state, authorities say. They resided in public housing, collected unemployment and welfare benefits and used multiple identities to bilk the government for large sums, investigators say.

"These were people who came as refugees, were made welcome and treated properly," said a British official who asked to remain anonymous. "And they decided to abuse the social security system to a huge degree."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: londonattacked

1 posted on 08/15/2005 7:46:10 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

Rascals? Not exactly the word I would have used.


2 posted on 08/15/2005 7:50:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: nwrep

""These were people who came as refugees, were made welcome and treated properly,"




That says it all! The proper way to treat them would have been to make sure they had jobs,paid their own way,and paid taxes.

Not much time to hang around the health club and scheme if they were out working.

I love England but what on earth did it expect from these folks----undying loyalty?


3 posted on 08/15/2005 7:51:18 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: nwrep

"Stood Out as Radicals, Collected Welfare"

Where to watch for America's terrorists.

Welfare breeds contempt - no pride - no worth - no self respect. Perfect breeding for suicide-homiced bombers.

L.B.Johnson's "great society" !


4 posted on 08/15/2005 7:53:49 PM PDT by hombre_sincero
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To: nwrep

And none of their co-religionists alerted authorities. Huh! Whoda thunk it?


5 posted on 08/15/2005 8:02:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: nwrep
"But when you ask him why he did it, he starts with the speech about Iraq: They are killing women and children, no one's doing anything about it, on and on."

So his answer is to go out and kill more women and children. Why would people that kill women and children stop doing so because you turn around and do it?

There is no logic or reason to fanatacism. But I'm sure it makes sense to him.

6 posted on 08/15/2005 8:05:22 PM PDT by tjg
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To: nwrep
Image hosted by Photobucket.com talk about Bombing the hand that feeds you...
7 posted on 08/15/2005 8:22:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: nwrep; rmlew; MadIvan; nutmeg; Clemenza; Yehuda; RaceBannon; PARodrig; ...
"Ramzi was a cool guy," said Jamal Kamiri, sitting the other day on a bench behind Ramzi's apartment. "When I was younger, he used to play football with us. He used to carry a 9-millimeter pistol, but guns are common here and he wasn't a troublemaker. He carried it for protection.

Britain with some of the most stringent gun laws on the planet appears to have gun control down pat. It seems now only the criminals have guns.



8 posted on 08/15/2005 8:27:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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They failed to assimilate.
Because they didn't have to.
And no one made them.

Handouts.
Concessions.
Multiculturism.
They took this kindness as weakness.

Because of past insults-
(Whether real or imagined)
they do not control the world

They say:
Freedom is to blame.
Democracy to blame.
So freedom must die.
Democracy must die.
You must die.

They see:
Hate as love.
Love as Hate.
death as true life.
War as sacred religion.

This is the blood that feeds their hearts,
floods their minds,
stears their goals.

And you should have learned by now.
They didn't come to bow.

They came to conquer.

(Poem over.)


9 posted on 08/15/2005 8:29:45 PM PDT by ChuckSnow5 (Beware those who demand tolerance from others, they're usually the last to practice it.)
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To: nwrep

I'd imagine the vast majority of welfare use is 'fraud', in the sense that the recipients either have other sources of income or could easily acquire it if they had the will.


10 posted on 08/15/2005 8:33:27 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Celebrate E Pluribus Unum)
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To: nwrep

Bearded bums with big mouths. But then we already knew that.


11 posted on 08/15/2005 8:33:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Corruption!For it seems these murdering type are not so strong against "using" the technology or women.They are corrupt in entering the aboveworld where they must answer to Allah how they were so knowledgeble they can take out His creations.


12 posted on 08/15/2005 10:21:10 PM PDT by noodler
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To: Cacique

Interesting... thanks for the ping.


13 posted on 08/15/2005 10:55:57 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nwrep
They dedicated themselves to ripping off the state, authorities say. They resided in public housing, collected unemployment and welfare benefits and used multiple identities to bilk the government for large sums, investigators say.

Democrats! Welfare = fraud

14 posted on 08/16/2005 2:06:30 AM PDT by csvset
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To: nwrep

bttt


15 posted on 08/16/2005 2:08:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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"These were people who came as refugees, were made welcome and treated properly," said a British official who asked to remain anonymous

This is an outrage! The nerve of this official claiming these people were treated properly in racist Britain! Sniff him out and arrest him, immediately!

16 posted on 08/16/2005 11:55:48 AM PDT by jordan8
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