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Bush Slaps Down Top General After He Calls For Troops To Be Pulled Out Of Iraq
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-14-2005 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 08/13/2005 6:43:39 PM PDT by blam

Bush slaps down top general after he calls for troops to be pulled out of Iraq

By Philip Sherwell in Washington
(Filed: 14/08/2005)

The top American commander in Iraq has been privately rebuked by the Bush administration for openly discussing plans to reduce troop levels there next year, The Sunday Telegraph has learned.

President George W Bush personally intervened last week to play down as "speculation" all talk of troop pull-outs because he fears that even discussing options for an "exit strategy" implies weakening resolve.

General George Casey

Gen George Casey, the US ground commander in Iraq, was given his dressing-down after he briefed that troop levels - now 138,000 - could be reduced by 30,000 in the early months of next year as Iraqi security forces take on a greater role.

The unusual sign of US discord came as Iraqi politicians and clerics drafting a new constitution continued their own wrangling over autonomy demands by various factions.

Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi president and a Kurd, predicted that a draft of the new constitution should be ready today, 24 hours ahead of Monday's deadline, but other delegates were less optimistic.

"If God is willing, tomorrow it will be ready," Mr Talabani told a news conference in Baghdad yesterday, but admitted that two significant issues remained unresolved: the question of federalism in the south, and the relation between religion and state.

Shia Muslims, who lead Iraq's interim coalition government, are pushing for a clause saying that all laws passed by parliament must be compatible with Islam - a proposal most other participants oppose.

Meanwhile, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaeda's leader in Iraq, threatened to kill any imam who backs the constitution, according to a statement posted on the internet yesterday but whose origin could not be independently verified.

Cindy Sheehan protesting outside Mr Bush's ranch

Mr Bush is expected to place phone calls to some of the senior Iraqi negotiators in Baghdad if the deadlock remains. Last week as he came under renewed pressure from anti-war protesters to pull out, he dismissed any prospect of an immediate troop withdrawal. Mr Bush was responding to calls by Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq who has set up a protest camp outside his ranch in Crawford, Texas, where Mr Bush is on holiday.

Politically, the administration will be under pressure to signal a significant cut in the US presence by autumn next year to help Republicans fighting mid-term elections in November 2006. Military commanders, however, also need to wind down numbers, the imperative that prompted Gen Casey's comments, according to Dan Goure, a Pentagon adviser and vice-president of the Lexington Institute defence think-tank.

"It's number-driven," Mr Goure said. "The military can only maintain these levels in Iraq if it has absolutely no choice. Otherwise, the current pattern of rotations and other commitments mean that they will have to lower numbers."

There will, in any case, be a short-term increase in US troop levels to cover the Iraq elections scheduled for December. After that, said Mr Goure, the military has drawn up three broad strategies for cutting troops.

Their "best scenario" target is to reduce numbers to 60,000-70,000 by next autumn if Iraqi forces start to make progress against the insurgents. The fall-back option would be Gen Casey's minimum 30,000 reduction by the summer.

There is also a rarely-mentioned "Plan C" - complete withdrawal if all-out civil war erupts between the Shias and Sunnis, both of whom are engaged in a last-ditch battle for political territory in the current negotiations.

The Kurds and Shia Arabs want strong regional governments to be created in their northern and southern strongholds. But the minority Sunni Arabs, who dominated the country under Saddam Hussein, fear that they will be left with the central dust-bowl.

Sunni religious leaders, who led the boycott of January's elections, are now calling for their followers to register to vote in case they decide to oppose the constitution's federalism clauses in October's referendum.

The constitution will be considered void if it is rejected by two-thirds of voters in three provinces. Sunnis form a majority in four provinces.

A chemicals production plant thought to have been built by insurgents was found by US forces last week in a raid near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.


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KEYWORDS: bush; calls; down; general; georgecasey; iraq; oif; out; pulled; slaps; timetable; top; troops
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1 posted on 08/13/2005 6:43:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

We may exit, but it will be through Iran.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 6:45:03 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: blam

and it breaks in the British newspaper?


3 posted on 08/13/2005 6:45:48 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: blam

Wow..I assumed he was taking his que from the W-house when I heard that statement. Very disturbing and deadly diarhrhea of the mouth then.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 6:47:01 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: blam

the minority Sunni Arabs, who dominated the country under Saddam Hussein, fear that they will be left with the central dust-bowl.

Eat dirt murderers!


5 posted on 08/13/2005 6:49:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: samadams2000

I agree, we shouldn't give the terrorists target dates or other encouragement.


6 posted on 08/13/2005 6:50:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: blam

Seems like an interesting breakdown in the message the administration wants to put out. I'm sure the General was repeating adminstration policy that he's been briefed on but his mistake was getting out ahead of the president on this. He can kiss any further advancement goodbye.


7 posted on 08/13/2005 6:50:16 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: SteveMcKing
We may exit, but it will be through Iran.

I like the way you think.

8 posted on 08/13/2005 6:51:03 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: blam

The President is Commander-in-Chief: Generals serve at his pleasure.


9 posted on 08/13/2005 6:51:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Respecting liberal democrats requires contempt for every thing respectable.)
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To: blam

The british media is worse than the media here. So take any of that with a grain of salt.

If anything.......the administration would be upset because of the Gen. broadcasting possible troop movements.

WHICH IS BAD.

In other news....its a warm night here in Central Texas.


10 posted on 08/13/2005 6:52:44 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: blam

I thought the General's remarks were dumb when he made them. I'm glad Bush agrees, although I think that publicizing the reaction by Bush is not a good idea either.


11 posted on 08/13/2005 6:52:47 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: samadams2000
Very disturbing

Big time generals don't usually make disturbing mis-statements.

12 posted on 08/13/2005 6:52:56 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: blam

Just as the radical-left has infiltrated the Church, schools, colleges, etc, they definitely infiltrated into the military and into all the intelligence agencies. Especially during the Decade of Decadence - the 1990's!

as Gramsci wrote a century ago - to destroy capitalism you must ...

< snip >

...C. Gradual revolution through infiltration & subversion by revolutionaries
......1. Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
......2. Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
......3. Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
......4. Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
......5. Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
......6. Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons

< snip >


13 posted on 08/13/2005 6:53:01 PM PDT by hombre_sincero
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To: cripplecreek
A military man revealed the timeline?

God better be on our side because between fools, the msm, and the liberal education system we are being overwhelmed here.

14 posted on 08/13/2005 6:54:40 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek
"I agree, we shouldn't give terrorists target dates or other encouragement."

Or the liberals and MSMs.
15 posted on 08/13/2005 7:01:43 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: hombre_sincero
Worth Repeating
16 posted on 08/13/2005 7:04:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WarPaint

Iran on the way to Syria


17 posted on 08/13/2005 7:05:21 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: blam
The Sunday Telegraph has learned.

Through unnamed sources, I presume.

18 posted on 08/13/2005 7:06:18 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: SteveMcKing

That's a winner.


19 posted on 08/13/2005 7:07:52 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Will the Huskers ever come back?)
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To: blam

I don't understand why the article even has been posted. Nothing new has been raised in this article. For a few months we have heard exactly the same things being said. Gradual troop reductions as the Iraqi forces take over. A most probable for a temporary increase in troops for the upcoming federal elections. Again, nothing new, this has been made clear many months ago. How has the commander of ground forces in Iraq been "slapped down" in any way?
The UK never brings up things that are not made known by other communist news feeds. The only thing I see in this article is the picture of Hanoi Jane's new hero. The bitch creeping around in Crawford Tx. Ya know, the one that had a son that enlisted to get as far away from her as possible.


20 posted on 08/13/2005 7:08:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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