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9/11 attackers on radar in '00? - (Clinton knew??..)
Philadelphia Inquirer / NYT ^ | Tue, Aug. 09, 2005 | Douglas Jehl

Posted on 08/09/2005 6:09:18 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA

WASHINGTON - More than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks, a small, highly classified military-intelligence unit identified Mohamed Atta and three other future hijackers as likely members of an al-Qaeda cell operating in the United States, according to Rep. Curt Weldon (R., Pa.) and a former defense intelligence official.

In the summer of 2000, the team, known as "Able Danger," prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to the military's Special Operations Command that the information be shared with the FBI, Weldon and the former intelligence official said yesterday.

The recommendation was rejected, and the information was not shared, they said, apparently at least in part because Atta and the others were in the United States on valid entry visas.

Under American law, U.S. citizens and green-card holders may not be investigated in intelligence-collection operations by the military or intelligence agencies. That protection does not extend to visa holders, but Weldon and the former intelligence official said it may have reinforced a sense of discomfort common before Sept. 11 about sharing intelligence information with a law-enforcement agency.

A former spokesman for the Sept. 11 commission, Al Felzenberg, confirmed that members of its staff, including executive director Philip Zelikow, were told about the program during an overseas trip in October 2003 that included stops in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But Felzenberg said the briefers did not mention Atta's name. The report produced by the commission last year does not mention the episode.

Weldon first spoke publicly about the episode in June, in a little-noticed speech on the House floor and in an interview with the Times-Herald in Norristown. The matter resurfaced yesterday in a report by GSN: Government Security News, which is published every two weeks and covers issues related to homeland security. That report was based on accounts by Weldon and the former intelligence official that were made available to the New York Times yesterday in Weldon's office.

In a telephone interview from his home in Pennsylvania, Weldon said he was basing his assertions on similar ones made by at least three other former intelligence officers with direct knowledge of the project. He said some of the officers had first called the episode to his attention shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks.

First hint on Atta

The account is believed to be the first assertion that Atta, an Egyptian who became the lead hijacker in the plot, was identified by any American government agency as a potential threat before the Sept. 11 attacks. Among the 19 hijackers, only Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi had been identified as potential threats by the CIA before the summer of 2000, and information about them was not provided to the FBI until the spring of 2001.

Weldon has long been a champion of the kind of data-mining analysis that was the basis for the work done by the Able Danger team.

The former intelligence official spoke on the condition of anonymity, saying that he did not want to jeopardize political support and the possible financing for future data-mining operations by speaking publicly. He said the Able Danger unit had been established by the Special Operations Command in 1999, under a classified directive issued by Gen. Hugh Shelton, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to assemble information about al-Qaeda networks around the world.

'Taking out' targets

"Ultimately, Able Danger was going to give decision-makers options for taking out al-Qaeda targets," the former defense intelligence official said. He said that he himself had delivered the chart in the summer of 2000 to the Special Operations Command headquarters, in Tampa, Fla., and said it had been based on information drawn from unclassified sources and government records, including those of the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

"We knew these were bad guys, and we wanted to do something about them," the former intelligence official said. The unit, which relied heavily on data-mining techniques, was modeled after those first established by Army intelligence at the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center, now known as the Information Dominance Center, at Fort Belvoir, Va., the official said.

Weldon is an outspoken figure who is a vice chairman of both the House Armed Services Committee and the House Homeland Security Committee. He said he had recognized the significance of the episode only recently, when he contacted members of the military intelligence team as part of research for his book, Countdown to Terror: The Top-Secret Information That Could Prevent the Next Terrorist Attack on America and How the CIA Has Ignored It. Weldon's book prompted one veteran CIA member to strongly dispute the reliability of one Iranian source cited in the book, saying the Iranian "was a waste of my time and resources."

Weldon said that he had discussed the Able Danger episode with Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R., Mich.), chairman of the House intelligence committee, and that at least two congressional committees were now looking into the episode.

In the interview yesterday, Weldon said he had been aware of the episode since shortly after the Sept. 11 attack, when members of the team first brought it to his attention. He said he had told Stephen J. Hadley, then the deputy national security adviser, about it in a conversation in September or October of 2001 and had been surprised when the Sept. 11 commission report made no mention of the operation.

Col. Samuel Taylor, a spokesman for the military's Special Operations Command, said no one at the command now had any knowledge of the Able Danger program, its mission or its findings. Taylor said if the program existed, it was probably a highly classified "special access program" or other highly compartmented program that only a small number of military personnel would have been briefed on.

During the interview in Weldon's office, the former defense intelligence official showed a floor-size chart depicting al-Qaeda networks around the world that he said was a larger, more detailed version of one prepared by the Able Danger team in the summer of 2000.

But he said the original chart, like the new one, had included the names and photos of Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, as well as Mihdhar and Hazmi, all of whom were identified as members of an American-based "Brooklyn" cell, one of five around the world.

The official said the link to Brooklyn was meant as a term of art rather than literally, saying the unit had no firm evidence linking the men to Brooklyn but that a computer analysis seeking to establish patterns in links between the four men had found that "the software put them all together in Brooklyn."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911hijackers; abledanger; clintonlegacy; x42
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To: Thermalseeker
Bill O'Reilly asked Dick Morris why Bush did not go after Clinton. You know he has has the goods on him.. Morris....I don't know.
61 posted on 08/09/2005 7:51:26 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: BARLF

"Why are Republicans such a spineless bunch of nice guys? Attorney John Ashcroft was the only one appearing before that commission with guts. I think it cost him his job,but I could be wrong. I've certainly been wrong before in my thinking."

You're right!

I think Lehman stayed on the commission in order to at least publish what they had.

What I find most astonishing is that here is Weldon, # 2 Republican on Defense giving information to the Commission staffers and is for the most part being ignored.


62 posted on 08/09/2005 7:52:18 AM PDT by markedman (Islam means surrender, and we shall _NEVER_ surrender)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I fully expect to see the Jersey Girls making the rounds on Hardball and the morning Soccer Mom brainwashing shows (Today, GMA, etc) to blame 9-11 on Clinton now.

Snicker, snicker.


63 posted on 08/09/2005 7:56:04 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: markedman

Rep. Weldon better watch his back.


64 posted on 08/09/2005 7:59:18 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: markedman
- "A former spokesman for the Sept. 11 commission, Al Felzenberg, confirmed that members of its staff, including executive director Philip Zelikow, were told about the program...

...were told about the "program"? Is this a way to 'sugar-coat' the impact of what they "were told"?, ie. were they told about the Able Danger "program" in general, or about the 'specific' operation that identified Atta and the 3 other hijackers? Funny how the reporter does not go into much detail here. Sounds like this is tyupical 'reporter coverup'.

65 posted on 08/09/2005 8:02:45 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA
According to Weldon, who put the NY Times on the story after the Philly Inquirer not only ignored him but ridiculed him, the Times story leaves out a lot and does sugar coat some of what is in. Its amazing that they printed the story at all. Weldon said that the Able Danger folks made a big formal presentation at Centcom in Florida where it layed out the charts and pics of who was who and some of what they had been up to and concluded by requesting approval to 'take action'; but we know how that worked out.
66 posted on 08/09/2005 8:20:06 AM PDT by markedman (Islam means surrender, and we shall _NEVER_ surrender)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Hillary filed the reports with her Rose Law Firm records.


67 posted on 08/09/2005 8:20:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BARLF

"Rep. Weldon better watch his back."

He's actually a pretty powerful guy with lots of operative type friends in domestic and foreign intelligence agiencies, The House & Senate, as well as free access to talk radio in PA, NJ and DE.

Weldon is also an expert on North Korea and Iran.


68 posted on 08/09/2005 8:22:50 AM PDT by markedman (Islam means surrender, and we shall _NEVER_ surrender)
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To: markedman
According to Weldon part of the reason for not taking out Atta and the other 4 was that the Administration and FBI did not want to be embarassed again like they were at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Sad.

What did Clinton do at Ruby Ridge?

69 posted on 08/09/2005 8:26:14 AM PDT by IronMan04
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To: LibFreeUSA

Makes ya sick bump.


70 posted on 08/09/2005 8:26:33 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: doug from upland; Mia T

ping


71 posted on 08/09/2005 8:27:58 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Ping - Bill Clinton's name is again resurfacing on the FR board.


72 posted on 08/09/2005 8:28:42 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

What did Hillary know and when did she know it?


73 posted on 08/09/2005 8:30:41 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: Moose4

I agree... lets be careful... this could happen again in this country. I used to think the US was tough on terror and Europe was weak. I am now convinced that Britain has a better grasp on what needs to be done proactively. The ACLU would not allow the US to anything with Atta especially since he was here legally.


74 posted on 08/09/2005 8:35:19 AM PDT by VA is for Freepers
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To: Thermalseeker

.....yep........... Darn, I got to remember all those.


75 posted on 08/09/2005 9:32:27 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War is Mankind's way of ridding the world of the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: IronMan04

His attorney general / arsonist-in-chief helped obscure the facts of what happened.


76 posted on 08/09/2005 9:34:54 AM PDT by markedman (Islam means surrender, and we shall _NEVER_ surrender)
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To: GOPJ

Exactly! In fact, it was only months after the 1993 WTC attack that those nasty Christians at Waco were laid seige to...and murdered. It wasn't long after this that the Freeman in Montana also became targets of the federal government. Even after the OKC bombing...with an Arab-looking 3rd John Doe at large, it was Clinton who attacked Rush Limbaugh and the militia movement, making the far-right the worst enemy America had.

Throughout his term...even with Arab terrorism on the rise, Clinton did everything he could to appease the terrorists. And this included both foreign and military aid to Christian-hostile governments like those in Indonesia...or direct participation such as that in Serbia/Kosovo.

Part of my theory about this is not only Clinton's (and the Left's) hositility to Christianity...but his crusade for a legacy that included peace in the Middle-East. From the moment he stepped foot in office, he wasn't going to let anything, including what he percieved as a Christian/Israeli-bias, interfere with his plans.

In other words, Clinton couldn't (wouldn't) be tough on terrorism because he knew that had the potential to disrupt whatever plans he had; he didn't want to p*ssoff the Mid-East. Ironically, as he was targeting Christians around the country...and treating Muslim terrorists with kid gloves, not only did his peace-plan fail...so did the goodwill he tried to bridge with Islamofacsists as the attacks continued. Appeasement didn't work.


77 posted on 08/09/2005 12:47:31 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalsim is the opiate of the *asses.)
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To: BARLF
Bill O'Reilly asked Dick Morris why Bush did not go after Clinton. You know he has has the goods on him.. Morris....I don't know.

My tag line pretty well sums it up............

78 posted on 08/09/2005 12:55:56 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: LibFreeUSA
That was excatly my same thought as soon as I inserted my title...("Clinton knew?")

I read your mind, do you think this will be a big story, especially since the 9/11 commisars MISSED it, or OMITTED it from their report?< sarcasm on >

79 posted on 08/09/2005 12:57:53 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; All
HILLARY'S TRIPLE PLAY
the clinton putsch + filegate + the gorelick wall


BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE


HIROSHIMA'S NUCLEAR LESSON
bill clinton is no Harry Truman



HILLARY'S MIDDLE-FINGER MINDSET (MAD COVER 2)
Do you really want THAT finger on the button?



ALFRED E."What, me worry?" CLINTON + CRAZY HIL MAD COVER STORY
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE



80 posted on 08/09/2005 1:14:25 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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