Posted on 08/06/2005 7:44:39 PM PDT by Crackingham
"Who designed the Designer?"
What or WHO started the big bang &/or evolution?
Dispute Creation in seven literal days if you want to.
But don't say that Scripture is not clear on the subject.
Also, your definition of "Inspiration" bears no similarity to the Biblical exposition of the doctrine.
Scientists taught that ulcers were caused by stress. They're caused by bacteria. During the time of belief of stress etiology, did any scientists write about "evidence" that we now know is nonsense? Scientists are frequently "arrogantly wrong."
Yes, the science haters who propose the nonsense of evolution.
I'm late to the party. Thread's pretty well messed up at this point. Let's try to find a better one.
First, it's an editorial and not an article. Big difference.
Second, whether the [editorial] mentions morals directly or not, the target of your response did. You owe it to your opponent in a debate NOT to insult his/her intelligence by invoking petty twists of word usage. Manipulative tactics merely distract from meaningful and constructive dialog, which you may not be interested in pursuing.
The response may have been diverted from what you saw as the editorial's point or purpose, but stop that and you kill this board. Lighten up.
Like I said, science seeks to understand but cannot explain our surroundings.
Volcanoes can be explained. Lightning can be explained. Just two examples off the top of my head.
Just as soon as you agree to allow the teaching of evolution in churches and parochial schools. Equal time, presenting "both sides," and all that, you know.
SW
There is no scientific "truth", just scientific fact.
A good question, but given its metaphysical/spiritual nature, not one that can really be addressed by science. This point should be made more often, as it often gets glossed over by the anti-evolution crowd.
SW
Well, I understand, I think what you are saying, but I think it would be more than a semantic disagreement if I were to say that I think that Faith can start at the beginning.
I don't think it has to start somewhere when we run out of science.
I did.
True, I stand corrected.
Second, whether the [editorial] mentions morals directly or not, the target of your response did. You owe it to your opponent in a debate NOT to insult his/her intelligence by invoking petty twists of word usage. Manipulative tactics merely distract from meaningful and constructive dialog, which you may not be interested in pursuing.
I believe I answered this point rather directly in post #3.
The response may have been diverted from what you saw as the editorial's point or purpose, but stop that and you kill this board. Lighten up.
Okay. ;^)
If you had stopped there in your previous post, I would not have responded to you. Science does more than seek understanding. It also tries to make claims & most of the time, those are in the form of an explanation about something. The world is warming. Man is causing it...
From the portion of the article you pulled out to respond to: But ID also demands belief in the untestable.
Science also demands belief in the untestable. Yes, I realize science is attempting to test the untestable all of the time. The only way science can do it is by allowing for faith in itself, including its many unprovables.
For example, strong force is currently untestable. It may always be untestable. It is an unknown force allowed by science. One unknown force is allowed in, while there is a demand for another unknown force to be excluded. Why?
Schools are 'public' institutions and should show all possibilities, while churches are 'private' institutions and have the right to focus on their own doctrines. Big difference. Or do you not believe infreedom of religion?
There's a simple answer here: God created evolution!
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