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NYP: ROBERTS CRITICS' AGENDA OF HATE -- JFK won despite anti-Catholic bias.
New York Post ^ | August 2, 2005 | GEORGE J. MARLIN

Posted on 08/02/2005 5:33:44 AM PDT by OESY

For most of our nation's history, anti-Catholicism has been an acceptable prejudice.... The reaction to President Bush's nomination of John Roberts... suggests that not so much has changed....

Many political analysts have concluded that this intolerance began to subside after JFK's election. Catholics, they argue, have been assimilated into American society and are now accepted into middle- and upper-class enclaves, corporate board rooms and the public square. Yet, while many Catholics have advanced economically since 1960, a deep-rooted animus remains against Catholics in public life who practice their faith.

...Schumer ignored the Constitution's Article 6 ("no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States") in questioning the suitability of a Bush appeals-court nominee... William Pryor. Because Pryor adheres to the tenets of the Roman Catholic Church, Schumer complained that "his beliefs are so well known, so deeply held, that it's very hard — very hard to believe — they're not going to deeply influence the way he comes about saying, 'I will follow the law.'"

Schumer's judicial litmus test held up the Pryor nomination for two years. Are similar tactics of senatorial intolerance being used to railroad Roberts? His nomination was scarcely a week old before the sulfurous odor of religious prejudice began to waft through the air....

Prior to her high-court nomination, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a forceful advocate for women's rights as a professor at Columbia and as a federal circuit judge in the District of Columbia. She had expressed in speech and in writing any number of "strongly held personal values" over many years — yet her Supreme Court confirmation hearing was a cake-walk. No senator even hinted that the strength of her personal philosophical or religious opinions might affect her duties as a judge....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anticatholicbigotry; bush; catholic; fdr; jfk; johnroberts; pryor; roberts; schumer; scotus; senatejudiciary; supremecourt
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The reaction to President Bush's nomination of John Roberts to the Supreme Court suggests that not so much has changed.

My sense is that Marlin is imagining enemies where few can be found. Schumer does not represent the views of Mainstream America. On the contrary, many Christian denominations have coalesced to protect their right to practice their religion without government (read, ACLU) interference. The new alignments indicate much has changed.

1 posted on 08/02/2005 5:34:00 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
JFK had his union thugs steal the election, Nixon just had to much class to dispute it.
2 posted on 08/02/2005 5:36:26 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: OESY
My experience shows me that liberals are the most intolerant people.

Throw in their elitist arrogance and they become dangerous.

3 posted on 08/02/2005 5:37:23 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: OESY

As a Catholic I still encounter anti-Catholic bias fairly frequently. Just something one has to deal with, I suppose.


4 posted on 08/02/2005 5:38:26 AM PDT by okstate
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To: OESY
My sense is that Marlin is imagining enemies where few can be found. Schumer does not represent the views of Mainstream America.

He represents the mainstream of one of the two major political parties, and in any event, many leaders of the Democratic party, including Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, etc., do wish to impose a religious litmus test -- no traditional Catholic believers need apply.

5 posted on 08/02/2005 5:40:04 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: OESY
I am not so convinced, almost every article about Judge Roberts has pointed out that he is a Roman Catholic, I believe 160 times in the last two weeks. Only 40 mentions of Ginsberg's religion during the entire process. When being a Roman Catholic ceases to be part of all headlines then I will believe that it is the mainstream view. Schumer is leading the charge and would raise all kinds of noise if I were to attack his religion.
6 posted on 08/02/2005 5:42:35 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: okstate

Yeah, well try in in Massachusetts. No matter how "nice" the person seems, they go ballistic at the mention of Catholicism.

What amazes me is that for all the criticism they have of the Catholic Church, the left embraces much that it criticizes of the Church.

Example - Left thinks that Papal infallibility is always happening and that no Catholic can deviate. Yet isn't it ironic that "good" Catholics in politics can vote against the way the religion preaches?. (PS Infallibility has only been invoked twice, if I remember correctly).

Don't get me wrong. Criticism is healthy. But intolerance of dissent is not.

Try hearing any form of dissent in the DNC. Everyone recites the talking points. Because the DNC talking points are infallible.

Estrada and Rogers Brown were reviled because they allegedly repeated what the white neocons told them. When the opposite is true. They have the right of dissent, just not with the DNC, it would appear.

NR had a cover of Schumer dressed in religious gard as heading up the inquisition.

Which is what it's looking like.

I read some time ago and agree with it that secular humanism is an active religion. This would be no issue if the human intolerance and attempt to silence dissent weren't so forceful.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 5:47:27 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: okstate
Me too! It's out there, maybe more covert then it was in the Sixties, but I did not get a job with a Christian Radio station a couple of years ago, and I strongly suspect that it was because I was a Roman Catholic. I was on the phone with a very pleasant man, he seemed excited to have me come and interview, until he asked what "denomination" I was. I faxed my resume and never got to speak to this man again. It was for a secretary position! Can't prove it, but I am sure of it.
8 posted on 08/02/2005 5:47:55 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: defconw

Well they clearly did not deserve someone as great as you!

I hope that you found a better place to work.


9 posted on 08/02/2005 5:54:46 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: saveliberty

Thank You for the compliment, I am currently looking, I work for Kelly Services and they have bben very slow this summer.


10 posted on 08/02/2005 5:57:48 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: defconw

Truth be told, Ginsberg's religion is liberalism. She seems to adhere to no religious principles at all, not even the Ten Commandments.


11 posted on 08/02/2005 5:58:13 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: okstate
As a Catholic I still encounter anti-Catholic bias fairly frequently. Just something one has to deal with, I suppose.

I think such can be said of any group.

12 posted on 08/02/2005 5:58:58 AM PDT by fso301
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To: defconw
I was on the phone with a very pleasant man, he seemed excited to have me come and interview, until he asked what "denomination" I was

You should have answered First Church of Christ, Roman Synod, Unreformed. It would have probably taken him a year to figure it out, what you meant. :D

13 posted on 08/02/2005 5:59:29 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: Unam Sanctam

These bigots should be called on their blatant anti-Catholic bias openly and on TV. Schumer should be asked if his religion has any moral footing which would prevent him from voting one way on certain issues. There could even be a "Joseph Welch" moment at the confirmation hearings. Stay on offense. And be prepared with "the Constitutional Option".


14 posted on 08/02/2005 6:02:07 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: fso301
The difference is that it is socially acceptable to bash Catholics overtly. I hear all kinds of things when I am out and about and people don't know that I am Catholic. People can get defensive and say it doesn't happen but I know better. I have had some of the stupidest and clearly ignorant questions asked of me when they do know. If I asked these questions of others I would be called all kinds of things none of them nice, and yet I have to answer politely and I will continue to do so. It still makes me mad.
15 posted on 08/02/2005 6:03:24 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: dubyaismypresident

I am writing that one down! You are very clever! ROFLOL!


16 posted on 08/02/2005 6:04:30 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: defconw
When being a Roman Catholic ceases to be part of all headlines then I will believe that it is the mainstream view.

Ever notice how the press always refers to Republican politicians such as Frist, Delay, etc as conservative or right-wing yet, never refers to the likes of Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Feinstein, etc as liberal?

Same thing at play here with the automatic insertion of Catholic whenever mentioning Roberts.

17 posted on 08/02/2005 6:05:29 AM PDT by fso301
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To: defconw
The difference is that it is socially acceptable to bash Catholics overtly. I hear all kinds of things when I am out and about and people don't know that I am Catholic.

True but Baptists say much the same.

18 posted on 08/02/2005 6:08:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Exactly! Bias! Yhe media is the worst and by them doing it, it makes it OK for others to follow suit I guess! I don't let it get me down. I pray all the harder for Roberts and all the others regardless of their denomination. Provided they are Republicans of course! :)


19 posted on 08/02/2005 6:09:13 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08)
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To: dubyaismypresident

That's hilarious.


20 posted on 08/02/2005 6:10:47 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (Ethiopia: The New Happiest Place on Earth.)
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