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London Police Nab 6 More in Blasts Probe
Yahoo/Ap ^ | 31 July 2005 | CATHERINE McALOON

Posted on 07/31/2005 9:22:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

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So far no Irish or Scotish dissidents have been arrested.:)
1 posted on 07/31/2005 9:22:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave

Below is the Reuters report on these new arrests.

Italian, UK police quiz suspects in bomb probe By Phil Stewart and Michael Holden
24 minutes ago



A prime suspect in the second wave of London bombings has told Italian detectives he took part in the attacks on the city's transport system as British police quizzed three other suspected bombers on Sunday.

A judicial source with direct contact to the man confirmed Italian media reports that Osman Hussain, arrested in Rome on Friday, has said that he participated in the July 21 failed attacks.

"Yes, yes. I can confirm that," the source told Reuters. He gave no further details.

Police arrested five further men and one women on Sunday in southern England under anti-terrorism laws in connection with the July 21 attempted bombings but a police source said the arrests were not a significant development in the inquiry.

That brings the total number of people being questioned by British investigators in relation to the probe, the biggest operation for London's police since World War II, to 17.

Hussain's court-appointed lawyer has suggested that the suspect, an Ethiopian-born British citizen, may try to resist extradition requested by British authorities.

British police believe they have captured all four men they were seeking over the July 21 botched bombings on three underground trains and a bus, which came exactly two weeks after four bombers killed themselves and 52 people in similar attacks.

After an international manhunt for suspected Islamist militants which culminated in a swoop on a housing estate in west London on Friday, three of the men are in custody in London and the fourth in Rome.

FRESH ATTACKS

Officers are still looking for anyone who may have helped the bombers and warn of new strikes.

"We are still searching for the people who put the jobs together," said a police spokeswoman.

"Friday was a great success but the threat remains real -- people still need to be vigilant," she added.

As Britons worry about a fresh attack on London, domestic media said the police and security forces were trying to track down any further cells and a possible command structure behind the bombers.

Security experts described al Qaeda's pyramid structure.

"If you see the two groups of bombers as two separate teams of foot soldiers on the very bottom, then there is a possibility they are linked by the command structure in the level above," a security source told The Observer.

"This is the level we are trying to identify and track down," the source was quoted as saying.

A Zambian intelligence source said in Lusaka on Saturday the authorities had signed a deportation order for suspected British militant Haroon Rashid Aswad, who would be handed over to Britain once formalities were completed.

British police say they would like to question him but say he is not a priority in the London bombings investigation.

In Italy, the latest high-profile arrest stemming from at least 15 raids linked to Hussain's contacts was a man named as Fati Issac who police said was the brother of Hussain, also known as Hamdi Adus Issac.

A police source told Reuters the brother is accused of "hiding or destroying" documents. Another brother was arrested in Rome on Friday for possession of false documents.


2 posted on 07/31/2005 9:25:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Chieftain

Do you mean they are ALL Muslim? Gosh! I was so sure there would be some Buddhists....Good thing we don't do any profiling...after all, any day now there will be a Unitarian terrorist.DUH.

We REALLY need those cameras on public transportation, around sensitive locations. That was THE key to these arrests.They wouldn't have known where to begin without the pics.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 9:28:20 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Below is the BBC report on this latest roundup of Jihad Johnny Mohammeds connected to the London Bombings.


Seven held in anti-terror raids
SUSPECTED BOMBERS ARRESTED
1: Yasin Hassan Omar , 24, wanted over bomb attempt on a Tube near Warren Street, arrested in Birmingham
2: Muktar Said Ibrahim , 27, suspected of attempting to bomb a No 26 bus in Shoreditch, arrested in North Kensington, London
3: Ramzi Mohammed , wanted over failed attempt to bomb a Tube near Oval, arrested in North Kensington, London
4. Osman Hussain , 27 (also known as Hamdi Isaac) wanted over the Shepherd's Bush attack, arrested in Rome


Police investigating the failed London bomb attacks have arrested six men and a woman after two raids in Sussex.
It is believed the raids took place in Brighton. Scotland Yard said no armed officers were involved.

The arrests bring to 19 the number of people held in connection to the July 21 attacks, including the four suspected would-be bombers.

Earlier, Commons leader Geoff Hoon said ministers would look into how one suspect left Britain after the attacks.

Ethiopian-born Osman Hussain, 27, who has a British passport, is believed to have left Britain on a Eurostar train from London Waterloo on 26 July, travelling to Paris and Milan before arriving in Rome.

He is suspected of trying to blow up a train near Shepherd's Bush station in west London.

Speaking on the BBC, Mr Hoon said extra passport checks are being considered at departure points from the UK. The Tories said immediate action on border controls was "vital".

A Eurostar spokesman said that there is no permanent point manned by UK officials, but checks are implemented at times of heightened security.

The Home Office said immigration officials were in place at all British departure points from 7 July to 17 July. They were reinstated from 21 July.

Sussex raids


All of those arrested in Sussex were held at one property under the Terrorism Act on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, or harbouring fugitives. They are being questioned at a police station in Sussex.

Searches are under way at both the raided addresses. Police said there was no danger to the public in the surrounding area.

Since the arrests on Friday of those suspected of carrying out the failed bombings, police are focusing on finding those who helped plan and finance the attacks, as well as those of 7 July.

But a police spokeswoman earlier played down claims that officers were hunting a third cell poised to strike.

"We are searching for other people in connection with this ongoing inquiry. We have never spoken about a third cell.

"There were quite a few other people involved in the incidents of the 7th and the 21st. It's extremely likely there will be other people involved in harbouring, financing and making the devices."

Police have also been allowed extra time to question Yasin Hassan Omar, the man suspected to trying to blow up a train between Oxford Circus and Warren Street.

He can be questioned until Wednesday. He was arrested in Birmingham on 27 July.

Officers can hold suspects for a maximum of 14 days under the anti-terror laws, before applying for an extension.

In other recent developments:


Italian police arrest a brother of Osman Hussain, named as Fati Isaac, in Brescia, in northern Italy on Sunday, news agency ANSA said. Another brother, Remzi Isaac, was held on Friday

Osman Hussain appeared before an extradition hearing in Rome on Saturday. His court-appointed lawyer Antonietta Sonnessa suggested he would fight being returned to the UK
Yasin Hassan Omar, Muktar Said Ibrahim and Ramzi Mohammed, the other men suspected of carrying out the attempted attacks on 21 July, are being questioned in London
A fifth suspect named as a brother of Ramzi Mohammed, also arrested during Friday's raids, is also being questioned. Police forensic teams are still searching the two addresses raided

Teams are also studying items seized from other addresses in London and Birmingham


4 posted on 07/31/2005 9:28:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

No Buddhists, Hindus, Shintus, Christians or Jews arrested so far.


5 posted on 07/31/2005 9:29:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Cindy; backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; piasa; kcvl

fyi


6 posted on 07/31/2005 9:30:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

That's because they're just laying low and trying to blend in with the Pakistanis, North Africans, and Arabs who are above suspicion and should not be singled out. Islam has nothing to do with terrorism you know.


7 posted on 07/31/2005 9:36:23 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: Mr. Keys

Islam has nothing to with the Jihadist Johnny Mohammeds blowing themselves up and scores of innocents.

Those acts of terrorism are GW's and the Jooos's fault.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 9:39:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

It must be so. The Muslims keep telling us that. And we all know they wouldn't lie to us because they're TROP.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 9:44:35 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: All
Jihad Johnny Mohammeds are surrending and being captured on a regular basis.


10 posted on 07/31/2005 9:45:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

What? No pro-life, Christian, middle aged white guys driving white vans?


11 posted on 07/31/2005 9:48:19 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

OOPS! I omitted Pro Lifers driving white vans as potential terrorists. Can we say terrorists, these days?


12 posted on 07/31/2005 9:50:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Wow, London was is positively crawling with terrorists. I know if I was a loyal subject, I'd be clamoring for arms to protect myself since the crown seems to be unable.
13 posted on 07/31/2005 9:54:19 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: Grampa Dave
I don't know how those British cops operate, but they are good. Our guys should compare notes with them.
14 posted on 07/31/2005 9:55:05 AM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LibKill

Good street cops and good intel can mean success.

Good street cops and good intel with PC police chiefs like Moose, PC Mayors and PC DA's often result in nothing being done.


15 posted on 07/31/2005 10:01:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

That's the real SUN front page??


16 posted on 07/31/2005 10:03:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Grampa Dave
it was only intended to be an attention-grabbing strike

Disturbing the peace is fairly serious, but terrorism is at least felonious.

17 posted on 07/31/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: Grampa Dave
No Buddhists, Hindus, Shintus, Christians or Jews arrested so far.

Arrest a few anyway..
it's only fair.

18 posted on 07/31/2005 10:10:32 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS)
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To: ohioWfan

Apparently so. I borrowed it yesterday.


19 posted on 07/31/2005 10:12:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: evad

Like arrest one for every 5 Jihadist Terrorist arrested.

Mayor Bloombergie would approve of that PC tactic.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 10:13:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Cool. Methinks the British tolerance for terrorism and Islamofascists is on the wane....


21 posted on 07/31/2005 10:16:17 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Grampa Dave
Like arrest one for every 5 Jihadist Terrorist arrested. Mayor Bloombergie would approve of that PC tactic.

heh..yeah, something like that.

The first non muslim they should arrest is Red Ken...or is he a muslim??.

I know he supports terrorism.

22 posted on 07/31/2005 10:16:47 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS)
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To: RightWhale

Disturbing the peace is fairly serious, but terrorism is at least felonious.

Look at the quote this Jihadist scumbag made in Italy:

""Muktar urged us to be careful" La Repubblica quoted Hussain as telling his interrogators. "We didn't want to kill, just sow terror."

Those last 3 words are omitted or edited by most of the reports on him.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 10:18:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: evad

The arrest of Red Ken and then sending him to some horrible British controlled isolated island would be a positive step towards insuring peace in London.


24 posted on 07/31/2005 10:19:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Terror is terror. Sometimes it seems we are terrorizing ourselves by periodic alarms about avian flu or unprotected nuclear power stations--doing their work for them.


25 posted on 07/31/2005 10:20:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: ohioWfan

The Guardian and a few other uber liberal rags in London and many at the BBC will continue to worry about the rights of the Jihadists while ignoring the death and destruction from Jihadist terrorists.


26 posted on 07/31/2005 10:20:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: RightWhale

You are correct. That is why false terror reports shortly after 9/11 became acts of terrorism.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 10:21:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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I don't know how those British cops operate, but they are good. Our guys should compare notes with them.

You got that right.

28 posted on 07/31/2005 10:23:44 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Grampa Dave

This is probably sci fi, but if the populace becomes alarmed enough they would accept, even demand, totalitarian gov't. 1984


29 posted on 07/31/2005 10:25:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: Grampa Dave

Neither has there been any arrests of those of American Indian descent, German descent, Dutch descent, Japanese descent....old women in wheelchairs, blond-haired, blue-eyes men or women, 8 year olds, teenage girls.......


30 posted on 07/31/2005 10:28:12 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Also no 4 and 6 year old grand children have been arrested.

So I guess my grandkids aren't terrorists, except the days the 4 year old decides not to take his nap.


31 posted on 07/31/2005 10:33:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: evad
No Buddhists, Hindus, Shintus, Christians or Jews arrested so far.
Arrest a few anyway..
it's only fair.


Yeah, you don't want to be accused by the multiculturalists of discriminating against a particular religion.
32 posted on 07/31/2005 10:42:33 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Yeah, you don't want to be accused by the multiculturalists of discriminating against a particular religion.

Religi-phobia can be a scarrrry thing :)

33 posted on 07/31/2005 10:44:20 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS)
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To: Grampa Dave
It is a good thing you live across the country from my 2-year old granddaughter. She is also a terror without her nap, and the thought of her and your grandson joining forces is a bit nerve-wracking.

Glad to see the British are rounding these scumbags up. Every arrest nets them more information. I woould bet cash money that pretty soon we will see arrests here, as contacts in the USA are uncovered.

34 posted on 07/31/2005 10:48:13 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Karl Rove is Plame-proof.)
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To: Miss Marple

He was bad at two. Now he is as strong as a bull and can be a real handful except for me and his Dad. It is amazing after a one to two hour nap, he awakens as a nice kid versus Terrorist Toddler before the nap.


35 posted on 07/31/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave

FOFLOL....I remember having two "terrors" at nap time. : )


36 posted on 07/31/2005 10:57:39 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: LibKill

"I don't know how those British cops operate, but they are good. Our guys should compare notes with them."

I am hearing this comment a lot lately. I find it interesting that only a few months back I read an article about some US cops that had spent some time observing UK police operations (don't recall where I read it). The US cops were quite surprised at the low case clear up rate of the British and their apparent out dated and unproductive methods.
I have no clue which police force is "better" and make no judgement.
Much is made of the British experience gained from dealing with the IRA. From my 36 years in the UK before moving Stateside I don't recall any occasions when they rounded up IRA cells with this effectiveness.


37 posted on 07/31/2005 10:58:03 AM PDT by Redneck Limey
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If anyone gets the names for the ones that just got arrested please give me a ping.

The Terrorist Scorecard

Name Function Status Location
London Bombers
Magdi al-Nashar Egyptian chemist suspected of involvement in the 7/7 London explosions At Large Egypt is holding him but won't extradite him
Haroon Rashid Aswad(Aswat) Possibly the planner of the 7/7 attacks Apprehended In Custody-Pakistan
Hassib Hussain an 18-year-old suicide bomber responsible for the attack on a bus that killed 13 people Dead Hell
Mohammed Sidique Khan 30 year old responsible for the explosion at Edgware Road that killed 6 Dead Hell
Germaine Lindsay 19 year old set off the explosion in King's Cross that killed 26 Dead Hell
Shehzad Tanweer 22 years old set off bomb at Aldgate Dead Hell
Muktar Said Ibraihim aka Muktar Mohammed Said 27 y/o - tried to bomb the number 26 bus in London Apprehended In Custody-UK
Yasin Hassan Omar 24 y/o - tried to bomb Victoria line subway Apprehended In Custody-UK
Osman Hussain aka Hamdi Isaac Placed a bomb on a Shepherd's Bush Subway Apprehended In Custody-Italy
Ramzi Mohammedt Tried to bomb the tube near Oval Apprehended In Custody-UK
Haroon Rashid Aswat Longtime associate of Abu Hamza-has ties to terror ops in UK and the US Apprehended In Custody-Zambia
Fati Issac Brother of Osman Hussain involved in 7/21 plot Apprehended In Custody-Italy
Remzi Isaac Brother of Osman Hussain involved in 7/21 plot Apprehended In Custody-Italy

38 posted on 07/31/2005 10:58:37 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Straight Vermonter; Dog; Miss Marple; Howlin; Mo1; FL_engineer; Coop

Great chart!!! Love the "Location" listed for those who are dead ... ROFL!


39 posted on 07/31/2005 11:10:53 AM PDT by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Grampa Dave
I wonder, does Britain have an equivalent facility to our Club Gitmo, to house all the suspects they're rounding up?

We could sell franchises... Euro Gitmo is a catchy name.

40 posted on 07/31/2005 11:12:45 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

They could use Las Islas Malvin---uh, hold it there, I meant, "The Falklands".


41 posted on 07/31/2005 11:19:36 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: Grampa Dave

y'mean , no Mennonites , Amish or the like???


42 posted on 07/31/2005 11:22:14 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Grampa Dave
Apparantly the attacks on 7/7, the foiled attack on 7/21, and the BIG ONE also planned for 7/28 (last Thursday--just coming to light today) in London were all ON THE DIRECT ORDERS OF OSAMA BIN LADIN. Breaking, (interview with Saudi Ambassador to UK, via Italian newspaper, 2:30 p.m. Eastern time):

Londra: ambasciatore saudita, "Bin Laden sempre attivo" LONDRA - Osama bin Laden e' ancora attivo e che gli ordini di sferrare gli attentati partono spesso da lui. Lo ha dichiarato in un'intervista alla Reuters l'ambasciatore saudita a Londra, Turki al-Faisal. Il diplomatico ha accusato Al Qaida di violare gli insegnamento dell'Islam ma ritiene che la guerra in Iraq e la questione palestinese facilitino il reclutamento di estremisti. (Agr)

43 posted on 07/31/2005 11:27:51 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: Dad yer funny
HAMDI ISAAC, (alias OSMAN HUSSEIN) islamofascist bastard caught on the run in Roma, Italy. A friend of the Ethiopian is also caught in Brescia, northern Italy, north of Milano. Network coming unraveled in Europe:


44 posted on 07/31/2005 11:33:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: All
Let the record show, The Quaker's are innocent!



45 posted on 07/31/2005 11:33:34 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Where are the dreaded panties?


46 posted on 07/31/2005 11:36:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Are there 2 Haroon Rashid Aswats? One held in Pakistan and one in Zambia?


47 posted on 07/31/2005 11:47:49 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Grampa Dave
Hussain told interrogators he was not carrying enough explosives even to "harm people nearby,"

Yeah right. Even if this were true, they wouldn't have detonated the bombs WHILE WEARING the backpacks, JUST IN CASE they hurt themselves in the process. And how does he explain the bombs laced with nails/bolts/spikes that was found in the trunk of the car? Yeah, those wouldn't have hurt anyone. Furthermore, how does he explain the look of confusion on the face of one guy when the detonator went off but the full bomb did not? Was the guy confused because it was too big or too small of an explosion? Or was he confused because he thought Paradise wouldn't look like the inside of a tube train? Or was he confused because he didn't see 72 virgins standing there waiting for him? etc.

48 posted on 07/31/2005 12:10:54 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (Captured terrorist : "I recognized that I was on the wrong side.")
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To: tiredoflaundry

LOL!


49 posted on 07/31/2005 12:36:59 PM PDT by Dog (Every-time a liberal whines, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Redneck Limey

Generally they had a lot harder time with the IRA. The provos weren't suicide bombers, they fully intended to stay alive and effective. Hence they didn't do stupid stuff like leaving clues with their names and addresses all over the shop.

What that meant was the IRA were *much* harder to catch than these clowns were. The difference between a top professional army and a third-world militia in terms of their tradecraft.

Our security people did catch quite a few active service units (ASUs) though, if you Google "Balcombe Street siege" you'll find an example. That was after a running gun battle that started with the ASU assassinating a popular media figure though, rather than any sort of detective work.

Usually the way ASU's were destroyed was more like what happened at Loughhall. Two ASU's were ambushed in the middle of trying to blow up a rural police station using a huge bomb in the bucket of a mechanical digger (I think you'd call it a "backhoe") by a whole lot of SAS hiding in the shrubbery nearby with mortars, sniper rifles, heavy machine guns and stuff like that. Not a good day for the boyos.

Those operations relied on informants in the IRA networks.


50 posted on 07/31/2005 12:39:37 PM PDT by bernie_g
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