[Coleus]

Why didn't they arrest the guy when he came out of the house?

Meanwhile the second wave of bombers are laughing.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Wow! I thought I was cynical.

[agitator]

John Gibson is a frigging idiot.

[ladyinred]

What is wrong with people? Bombs are going off killing hundreds of innocents all over the world and these morons are whining about the police trying to protect the citizens? Have we all gone MAD???? I feel like this is the real Twilight Zone!

[kublia khan]

"hadn't been involved in any illegal activities of any kind." I don't know about England but in America jumping a turn style is illegal, resisting arrest is illegal, failing to obey the direct commend of a LE officer is illegal. I've gotten a couple of wooden shampoos for the later two. Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of cops but this article is really just a hit piece on Israel, the London shooting is simply a launching point. By the way before you start Suspected bombers are always shot in the head in general and the left eye if possible in order to initiate immediate paralysis and prevent hand movements that could actuate a detonating device.

[Jaysun]

Gibson needs some sun. The Brits have the right idea and I think they were justified in shooting the guy.

[PzGr43]

>The lethal tactics extolled by Gibson ("five in the noggin" first, ask questions later) were taught to British >counter-terrorism police by Israel’s National Police (INP), and the Israeli Security Service, Shin Bet. Notes Canadian >international affairs analyst Michel Chossudovsky: "The shoot to kill policy was undertaken under the auspices of >`Operation Kratos,’ named after the mythical Spartan hero. It was carried out by the London Metropolitan's elite SO19 >firearms unit often referred to as the Blue Berets…. The training of the S019 marksmen was patterned on that of Israel." >According to The July 23 Scottish Daily Record, S019 had been briefed "by officers who had been to Israel to meet their >counterparts there and pick up tips gleaned from the experience of dealing with Hamas bombers."
>

"often referred to as the Blue Berets…"

Oh yeah ? By whom ?

"The training of the S019 marksmen"

The training of SO19 ...cops.... is deficient. They are always NDing each other or shooting the wrong guy. A couple of months back they shot a guy carrying a table leg wrapped up in a parcel because they thought it might be a shotgun. I think their last result was perhaps twenty years ago when an armed cop challenged three bank robbers, who failed to respond with sufficient speed and he shot all three of them.

The other cop departments who sometimes carry guns like the DPG are just as bad. A friend of mine said he spotted two DPGs outside the Isreali embassy talking to each other and the one holding the MP5 was in full-blown Rule 2 violation with the MP5 slung across his front and pointing right into the guts of the other cop.

Everyone was safer when all they had was a whistle.

[Clock King]

Don't waste your time. I've been through these arguements on other forums, and these "neo-con" idiots are the type of fools who would sacrifice freedom for the illusion of security. Exactly like their Dim-rat counterparts. And to be honest, there is quite a bit bigotry here too. The fools keep talking about "arabic" looks and such BS.

[Clock King]

Don't worry, Mark Steyn agreed that this shooting went too far as well. And he's a hellava more intelligent than some of the sheltered folks who just want to "kill 'em all and let God sort it out!" types.

[Senator Goldwater]

Self-defense is a libertarian value.

Or should be.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The killing of Jean Charles de Meneze by London police, who wrongly suspected Meneze of being a suicide bomber, demonstrated the folly of giving police a license to kill on the basis of suspicion. Yet some neoconservatives "love" this and other Big Brother policies.

Meneze was possibly only guilty of being a jackass at the wrong place and the wrong time. ("Wouldn't it be cool if I could panic some Brits by pretending to be another suicide bomber"?) But terrorism has a way of making knee jerks look downright sensible.

[halfright]

I wonder what part of "S T O P " he didn't understand?

Very simple....obey lawful orders and you won't get wacked.

Take off and run in a heavy overcoat when the temperature is in the 80's and EVERYONE is looking for that EXACT description, ignore orders to stop...Jumped a turnstile,etc...you are terminated............

Great Job MI 5 !!!!

[nopardons]

Who is this name calling, oh soooooooooooooooooo "macho" man, calling John Gibson a "pencil-neck" and worse? And what is THE NEW AMERICAN?

The second wave of non-suicide bombers in England are soiling their knickers and one of them is in goal;none of them are laughing.

And absolutely NONE of the recent events bear any resemblance to BIG BROTHER or "1984"! Anyone who thinks that this is so, should read the book.

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